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Tinto Maps #4 - 31th of May 2024 - Poland, Ruthenia, Baltic

Hello everyone, and welcome to the fourth Tinto Maps! The feedback that we've received so far has been great, and there will be news soon regarding the map fixes that we've already done.

This week we are showing you Poland, Lithuania, Ruthenia, and the Baltic region. Let’s check it with no further ado:

Countries
Countries.jpg

A bigger picture of what’s going on in this region today, as we hadn’t shown it entirely before. To the west, the Kingdom of Poland is ruled by Casimir III of the House of Piast. It is not a completely unified kingdom, as there are several powerful vassals under him, most of them also Piasts themselves.

To the east, the Duchy of Lithuania is ruled by Gediminas, who has greatly expanded the influence of the country into Russian lands (side note: Gediminas entitled himself in his diplomatic correspondence ‘king’, but was considered by the Pope ‘king or duke’, and the title of Grand Duke wouldn’t be formally adopted until later [most likely replicating the Russian title ‘Grand Prince’]. That’s why Lithuania starts as a Duchy, although it will have an event that would make it possible to adopt the dynamic country name of ‘Grand Duchy’).

To the south, the principalities of Kyiv and Galicia-Volhynia have recently fallen under foreign influence, the first ruled by Theodor, brother of Gediminas of Lithuania; and the second by Yuri II, also from the Piast dynasty.

To the north, the Teutonic and Livonian Orders, which conquered the lands of Prussia and Livonia a century ago, are at war against Poland and Lithuania, after a long-established rivalry.

Also, a side note: we will talk about Moldavia in the Tinto Maps devoted to the Carpathian region, as it’s currently in a ‘placeholder’ spot.


Diplomacy.jpg

A new map mode, the Diplomatic one! The game starts with an ongoing war between Poland, Lithuania, and their respective vassals, on one side, and the Teutonic and Livonian Orders, and Bohemia and its vassals, on the other.

Locations
Locations.jpg

Here you have the locations of Poland, Lithuania, Ruthenia, and the Baltic region. Some issues that have already been reported by our Polish coworkers are the inconsistencies in the location naming in Polish (we’ll use proper Polish letters more thoroughly), and we’ve also started to review both the Polish and Baltic locations based on the early feedback you gave us. Oh, also, the Vistula and Curonian Lagoons missing is a bug, we’ll properly re-add them while doing the map review.

Provinces
Province.jpg

Any suggestions for provincial naming are pretty welcome, as in the last DD!

Terrain
Climate.jpg

Topography.jpg

Vegetation.jpg


Cultures
Cultures.jpg

The Baltic lands have an interesting mix of different cultures. ‘Western Baltic’ culture represents the people speaking a West Baltic language (Old Prussians, Yotvingians, Curonians, etc.), while ‘Prussian’ is the culture of the German settlers of that area; on that style, we have a ‘Baltic German’ culture in the lands of Livonia and Estonia that also got settled by German-speaking people. The divide between Polish, Ruthenian, and Aukstaitian might be too deep, so we will most likely add a bit more mixed situation in the borders between these cultures.

Religions
Religions.jpg

A region with a more interesting religious setup! Apart from the Catholic-Orthodox divide, you can also see the Romuva religion, which was a hot topic in 1337 (shall the Dukes of Lithuania convert to Catholicism, or stay Pagan?). Red stripes to the north are other Animist populations. Also, disregard the Sunni region to the southeast, as we have to review all the pops of the Pontic Steppes, as well.

Raw Goods
Raw Goods.jpg

From the distribution of the materials, maybe a couple of things might catch your eye. The first is that there’s an Amber good present on the shores of the Baltic Sea. The second is that the Tatra Mountains, in Slovakia, have a bunch of precious metals, which makes them a very interesting area to exploit and develop.

Population
Pops.jpg

Pops 2.png

The population of the region is divided into country and location views. Two notes: The total population of Estonia is not 711K people, that’s the total for its owner, Denmark. Second, we’ve read your feedback regarding the population map mode, and we’ll take a look at how to improve the visualization of the data, making it better for you.

EDIT: Markets
Markets.jpg

And that’s all for today! The region that we'll show next week is Italy! Cheers!
 
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Hi once again Pavia.

I'm Polish and have some feedback regarding Silesia(Śląsk) region
I made a correct map of Silesian Duchies.
I corrected duchies's borders

View attachment 1141399
Though from my mistake I made it for 1333 year instead of 1337.
(E.g since 1335 Bohemia controlls Wrocław)

Despite this slight mistake, in 1337 Duchies of Niemodlin, Ziębice, Świdnica, Jawor were still independent and not the vassals of Bohemia

1 - Duchy of Oświęcim / Jan I the Scholastic / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_I_the_Scholastic
2 - Duchy of Cieszyn / Casimir I / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_I,_Duke_of_Cieszyn
3 - Duchy of Racibórz / Leszek of Racibórz / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leszek_of_Racibórz
4 - Duchy of Opawa / Nicholas II / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_II,_Duke_of_Opava
5 - Duchy of Bytom / Władysław of Bytom / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Władysław_of_Bytom
6 - Duchy of Strzelce / Albert of Strzelce / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_of_Strzelce
7 - Duchy of Opole / Bolko II of Opole / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolko_II_of_Opole
8 - Duchy of Niemodlin / Bolesław the Elder / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolesław_the_Elder
9 - Duchy of Wrocław & Duchy of Nysa(vassals to Wrocław's Bishop-princes) / Henry VI the Good / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_VI_the_Good
10 - Duchy of Ziębice / Bolko II of Ziębice / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolko_II_of_Ziębice
11 - Duchies of Lignica-Brzeg-Namysłów / Bolesław III the Generous / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolesław_III_the_Generous
12 - Duchy of Oleśnica / Konrad I of Oleśnica / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konrad_I_of_Oleśnica
13 - Duchy of Świdnica / Bolko II the Small / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolko_II_the_Small
14 - Duchy of Jawor / Henry I of Jawor / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_I_of_Jawor
15 - Duchy of Ścinawa / John, Duke of Ścinawa / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John,_Duke_of_Ścinawa
16 - Kingdom of Bohemia (Duchy of Głogów) / John of Bohemia / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_of_Bohemia
17 - Duchy of Żagań / Henry IV the Faithful / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_IV_the_Faithful

I based this mainly on these images:

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View attachment 1141411

Bye
Really great job!

By the way, many Silesian duchies were established after 1337 (mostly Upper Silesian), e.g:

  1. Duchy of Racibórz-Opava (existed in the years: 1337–1377)
  2. Duchy of Krnov (existed in the years: 1377–1849)
  3. Duchy of Pszczyna (existed in the years: 1424–1921)
  4. Duchy of Zator (existed in the years: 1445–1564)
  5. Duchy of Bielsko (existed in the years: 1572-1848)
Bishop's Duchy of Nysa is also missing at the beginning of the game - this one also lacks the Nysa location.
 
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FInally we see the Ruthenia! Awesome that we see the Eastern Europe. Couple of slight corrections could improve the experience
1) We should use Ruthenian instead of Russian, when referring to lands of Rus, since Russian refers to modern state of Russia, while Ruthenia is the name used for Rus.
2) Word Ruthenian is a latinization of word Rusyn, hence we should paint all of Belarus and Ukraine as Rusyn or as Ruthenian, instead of separating them. Ruthenian, Rusyn, Rusnak, Rusych, Ruten were used interchangeably, especially back in the day.
3) Additionally back in the day Przemysl and Chelm used to have a majority Orthodox and Ruthenian populations, hence it should be reflected in relgion and culture map as well as names which should be Peremyshl and Kholm or Cholm, since Kholm is already taken for region of Novgorod. We use Ukrainian names for the rest of Ukrainian regions after all.
4) There used to be much more Ruthenians in Moldova back in the day, up until 1/3 population of the duchy.
Apart from that, it is just wonderful
 
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It is a pity that the Polish experts whose services you use do not care about historicity. Grodno and Brest had nothing to do with Polish culture at that time; the Polonization of these lands began much later, guess why. It's the same with Catholicism in these lands. There was no Catholicism there at all in 1337. To create Baltic cultures, you decided to use data on the settlement of Baltic tribes. But it’s not at all clear what you did with Slavic cultures. One of the cores of the formation of the Belarusian ethnic group was the Krivichi. The Krivichi were a very large tribal association. Krivichi is much broader than Pskov, Polotsk and Smolensk, but even looking at these principalities we don’t see a single culture? Why? I’m already silent about the Krivichy Vyazma Rzhev and Tver. If you decided to form one big Ruthenian culture, then why did you limit yourself to what you limited yourself to? This is all very sad!
IMHO this map is still much work in progress. So they will probably change many things. I am from Poland and I also think that the Polish-Ruthenian culture border is not properly made. You can share sources that more precisely show ethnic relations of those times. Please do not accuse Polish creators that they do not care about historicity.
 
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Hi once again Pavia.

I'm Polish and have some feedback regarding Silesia(Śląsk) region
I made a correct map of Silesian Duchies.
I corrected duchies's borders

View attachment 1141399
Though from my mistake I made it for 1333 year instead of 1337.
(E.g since 1335 Bohemia controlls Wrocław)

Despite this slight mistake, in 1337 Duchies of Niemodlin, Ziębice, Świdnica, Jawor were still independent and not the vassals of Bohemia

1 - Duchy of Oświęcim / Jan I the Scholastic / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_I_the_Scholastic
2 - Duchy of Cieszyn / Casimir I / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_I,_Duke_of_Cieszyn
3 - Duchy of Racibórz / Leszek of Racibórz / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leszek_of_Racibórz
4 - Duchy of Opawa / Nicholas II / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_II,_Duke_of_Opava
5 - Duchy of Bytom / Władysław of Bytom / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Władysław_of_Bytom
6 - Duchy of Strzelce / Albert of Strzelce / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_of_Strzelce
7 - Duchy of Opole / Bolko II of Opole / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolko_II_of_Opole
8 - Duchy of Niemodlin / Bolesław the Elder / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolesław_the_Elder
9 - Duchy of Wrocław & Duchy of Nysa(vassals to Wrocław's Bishop-princes) / Henry VI the Good / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_VI_the_Good
10 - Duchy of Ziębice / Bolko II of Ziębice / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolko_II_of_Ziębice
11 - Duchies of Lignica-Brzeg-Namysłów / Bolesław III the Generous / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolesław_III_the_Generous
12 - Duchy of Oleśnica / Konrad I of Oleśnica / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konrad_I_of_Oleśnica
13 - Duchy of Świdnica / Bolko II the Small / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bolko_II_the_Small
14 - Duchy of Jawor / Henry I of Jawor / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_I_of_Jawor
15 - Duchy of Ścinawa / John, Duke of Ścinawa / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John,_Duke_of_Ścinawa
16 - Kingdom of Bohemia (Duchy of Głogów) / John of Bohemia / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_of_Bohemia
17 - Duchy of Żagań / Henry IV the Faithful / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_IV_the_Faithful

I based this mainly on these images:

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Bye
I think that they merged Jawor and Głogów because at the time it was ruled by one duke (but that only lasted very shortly). Also i have no idea why they put Świdnica into Jawor and why is Jawor part of HRE even tho it wasnt
 
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YES PLEASE! Having more Kashubian representation in Project Caesar would be very appreciated. :p

I know that other players, such as @promant and @Teutonic_Knight_2000 already wrote a lot of suggestions, so I wanted to contribute as well by comparing Polish, Kashubian and German names, as well as adding more of them. I hope that this will be useful.

The order of the names is as follows:
Polish name on the left / Kashubian name in the middle / German name on the right

(The name that is originally written on the location/province map is Bold and blue, so You can quickly find it)

NOTE: Some Kashubian names have different variations, so they could look different, depending on who You ask. I chose the ones that in my opinion are the most common or were often used during the game's timeframe.

Dynamic names of Locations (mostly in Kashubian mainland and neighbouring land) :


Lębork / Lãbórg / Lauenburg
Malbork / Malbórg / Marienburg
Puck / Pùck / Putzig
Kartuzy / Kartuzë / Karthaus
Kościerzyna / Kòscérzna / Berent
Bytów / Bëtowò / Bütow
Tuchola / Tëchòlô / Tuchel
Słuchów / Człuchòwò / Schlochau
Sławno / Słôwno / Schlawe
Miastko / Miastkò / Rummelsburg
Słupsk / Stôłpsk[ò] / Stolp
Szczecinek / Szczecënkò / Neustettin
Białogard / Biôłogarda / Belgard
Koszalin / Kòszalëno / Köslin
Bobolice / Bubòlc / Bublitz
Drawsko / Drôwa / Dramburg
Wałcz / Wôłcz / Arnskrone
Wieleń / Wieléń / Filehne
Choszczno / Chòsczno / Arnswalde
Strzelce / Strzelcé / Friedeberg
Resko / Réga / Regenwalde
Świdwin / Swiédwino / Schivelbein {Name is not visible on the screenshot, but I assume that is the name of the location between "Regenwalde" and "Belgard"]
Gdańsk / Gdúnjsk / Danzig
Złotów / Złotowò / Flatow
Wyrzysk
/ Wërzëskò / Wyritz
Bydgoszcz / Bëdgòszcza / Bromberg
Chełmno / Chôłmno / Kulm
Świecie / Swiecé / Schwetz
Tczew / Dërszewò / Dirschau
Kwidzyn / Kwidzëno / Marienwerder

Dynamic names of Provinces:


Koszalin / Kòszalëno / Köslin
Słupsk / Stôłpskò / Stolp
Wałcz / Wôłcz / Arnskrone
Tuchola / Tëchòlô / Tuchel
Gdańsk / Gdúnjsk / Danzig
Chełmno / Chôłmno / Kulm
Malbork / Malbórg / Marienburg
Królewiec / Króléwc / Königsberg
Poznań
/ Pòznóń / Posen
Kościan / Kòscan / Kosten
Kalisz / Kalëszk / Kallies
Kraków / Krakòwò / Krakau
Nowy Sącz / Nowi Sóncz / Neu Sandec
Opole / Òpòle / Oppeln
Śrem {It should be the name of the province instead of Koźmin} / Srëm / Schrimm



PS. If other Kashubian/Polish players think I made a mistake somewhere, feel free to point it out! Dziękuję. :D
As Polish-Kashubian I can say that it's a vergy good list, although I would swap Kartuzy for Mirachowo (Mirachòwò/Mirchau) and Gdańsk be Gduńsk, not Gdunjsk, the former being a wider recognised name among Kashubians.
 
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Hello everyone, and welcome to the fourth Tinto Maps! The feedback that we've received so far has been great, and there will be news soon regarding the map fixes that we've already done.

This week we are showing you Poland, Lithuania, Ruthenia, and the Baltic region. Let’s check it with no further ado:

Countries
View attachment 1141116
A bigger picture of what’s going on in this region today, as we hadn’t shown it entirely before. To the west, the Kingdom of Poland is ruled by Casimir III of the House of Piast. It is not a completely unified kingdom, as there are several powerful vassals under him, most of them also Piasts themselves.

To the east, the Duchy of Lithuania is ruled by Gediminas, who has greatly expanded the influence of the country into Russian lands (side note: Gediminas entitled himself in his diplomatic correspondence ‘king’, but was considered by the Pope ‘king or duke’, and the title of Grand Duke wouldn’t be formally adopted until later [most likely replicating the Russian title ‘Grand Prince’]. That’s why Lithuania starts as a Duchy, although it will have an event that would make it possible to adopt the dynamic country name of ‘Grand Duchy’).

To the south, the principalities of Kyiv and Galicia-Volhynia have recently fallen under foreign influence, the first ruled by Theodor, brother of Gediminas of Lithuania; and the second by Yuri II, also from the Piast dynasty.

To the north, the Teutonic and Livonian Orders, which conquered the lands of Prussia and Livonia a century ago, are at war against Poland and Lithuania, after a long-established rivalry.

Also, a side note: we will talk about Moldavia in the Tinto Maps devoted to the Carpathian region, as it’s currently in a ‘placeholder’ spot.


View attachment 1141098
A new map mode, the Diplomatic one! The game starts with an ongoing war between Poland, Lithuania, and their respective vassals, on one side, and the Teutonic and Livonian Orders, and Bohemia and its vassals, on the other.

Locations
View attachment 1141100
Here you have the locations of Poland, Lithuania, Ruthenia, and the Baltic region. Some issues that have already been reported by our Polish coworkers are the inconsistencies in the location naming in Polish (we’ll use proper Polish letters more thoroughly), and we’ve also started to review both the Polish and Baltic locations based on the early feedback you gave us. Oh, also, the Vistula and Curonian Lagoons missing is a bug, we’ll properly re-add them while doing the map review.

Provinces
View attachment 1141101
Any suggestions for provincial naming are pretty welcome, as in the last DD!

Terrain
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Cultures
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The Baltic lands have an interesting mix of different cultures. ‘Western Baltic’ culture represents the people speaking a West Baltic language (Old Prussians, Yotvingians, Curonians, etc.), while ‘Prussian’ is the culture of the German settlers of that area; on that style, we have a ‘Baltic German’ culture in the lands of Livonia and Estonia that also got settled by German-speaking people. The divide between Polish, Ruthenian, and Aukstaitian might be too deep, so we will most likely add a bit more mixed situation in the borders between these cultures.

Religions
View attachment 1141112
A region with a more interesting religious setup! Apart from the Catholic-Orthodox divide, you can also see the Romuva religion, which was a hot topic in 1337 (shall the Dukes of Lithuania convert to Catholicism, or stay Pagan?). Red stripes to the north are other Animist populations. Also, disregard the Sunni region to the southeast, as we have to review all the pops of the Pontic Steppes, as well.

Raw Goods
View attachment 1141113
From the distribution of the materials, maybe a couple of things might catch your eye. The first is that there’s an Amber good present on the shores of the Baltic Sea. The second is that the Tatra Mountains, in Slovakia, have a bunch of precious metals, which makes them a very interesting area to exploit and develop.

Population
View attachment 1141117
View attachment 1141127
The population of the region is divided into country and location views. Two notes: The total population of Estonia is not 711K people, that’s the total for its owner, Denmark. Second, we’ve read your feedback regarding the population map mode, and we’ll take a look at how to improve the visualization of the data, making it better for you.

EDIT: Markets
View attachment 1141180
And that’s all for today! The region that we'll show next week is Italy! Cheers!

Hello everyone, and welcome to the fourth Tinto Maps! The feedback that we've received so far has been great, and there will be news soon regarding the map fixes that we've already done.

This week we are showing you Poland, Lithuania, Ruthenia, and the Baltic region. Let’s check it with no further ado:

Countries
View attachment 1141116
A bigger picture of what’s going on in this region today, as we hadn’t shown it entirely before. To the west, the Kingdom of Poland is ruled by Casimir III of the House of Piast. It is not a completely unified kingdom, as there are several powerful vassals under him, most of them also Piasts themselves.

To the east, the Duchy of Lithuania is ruled by Gediminas, who has greatly expanded the influence of the country into Russian lands (side note: Gediminas entitled himself in his diplomatic correspondence ‘king’, but was considered by the Pope ‘king or duke’, and the title of Grand Duke wouldn’t be formally adopted until later [most likely replicating the Russian title ‘Grand Prince’]. That’s why Lithuania starts as a Duchy, although it will have an event that would make it possible to adopt the dynamic country name of ‘Grand Duchy’).

To the south, the principalities of Kyiv and Galicia-Volhynia have recently fallen under foreign influence, the first ruled by Theodor, brother of Gediminas of Lithuania; and the second by Yuri II, also from the Piast dynasty.

To the north, the Teutonic and Livonian Orders, which conquered the lands of Prussia and Livonia a century ago, are at war against Poland and Lithuania, after a long-established rivalry.

Also, a side note: we will talk about Moldavia in the Tinto Maps devoted to the Carpathian region, as it’s currently in a ‘placeholder’ spot.


View attachment 1141098
A new map mode, the Diplomatic one! The game starts with an ongoing war between Poland, Lithuania, and their respective vassals, on one side, and the Teutonic and Livonian Orders, and Bohemia and its vassals, on the other.

Locations
View attachment 1141100
Here you have the locations of Poland, Lithuania, Ruthenia, and the Baltic region. Some issues that have already been reported by our Polish coworkers are the inconsistencies in the location naming in Polish (we’ll use proper Polish letters more thoroughly), and we’ve also started to review both the Polish and Baltic locations based on the early feedback you gave us. Oh, also, the Vistula and Curonian Lagoons missing is a bug, we’ll properly re-add them while doing the map review.

Provinces
View attachment 1141101
Any suggestions for provincial naming are pretty welcome, as in the last DD!

Terrain
View attachment 1141106
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View attachment 1141109

Cultures
View attachment 1141110
The Baltic lands have an interesting mix of different cultures. ‘Western Baltic’ culture represents the people speaking a West Baltic language (Old Prussians, Yotvingians, Curonians, etc.), while ‘Prussian’ is the culture of the German settlers of that area; on that style, we have a ‘Baltic German’ culture in the lands of Livonia and Estonia that also got settled by German-speaking people. The divide between Polish, Ruthenian, and Aukstaitian might be too deep, so we will most likely add a bit more mixed situation in the borders between these cultures.

Religions
View attachment 1141112
A region with a more interesting religious setup! Apart from the Catholic-Orthodox divide, you can also see the Romuva religion, which was a hot topic in 1337 (shall the Dukes of Lithuania convert to Catholicism, or stay Pagan?). Red stripes to the north are other Animist populations. Also, disregard the Sunni region to the southeast, as we have to review all the pops of the Pontic Steppes, as well.

Raw Goods
View attachment 1141113
From the distribution of the materials, maybe a couple of things might catch your eye. The first is that there’s an Amber good present on the shores of the Baltic Sea. The second is that the Tatra Mountains, in Slovakia, have a bunch of precious metals, which makes them a very interesting area to exploit and develop.

Population
View attachment 1141117
View attachment 1141127
The population of the region is divided into country and location views. Two notes: The total population of Estonia is not 711K people, that’s the total for its owner, Denmark. Second, we’ve read your feedback regarding the population map mode, and we’ll take a look at how to improve the visualization of the data, making it better for you.

EDIT: Markets
View attachment 1141180
And that’s all for today! The region that we'll show next week is Italy! Cheers!
Several complaints.
1. "Rusyn" as culture is under big question even now. In 1337 even a notion of rusyns is a joke. They did not exist in 1337. Rusyn means Ruthenian in Ukrainian, and in 1337 every Belarusian and Ukrainian are calling themselves Rusyn. Hope this gets removed and integrated into already broad Ruthenian.
2. Galicia. It was named Ruthenia. King Yuriy II Boleslaw signed his documents "Georgius Dei gratia Rex Russiae". The "Galicia-Volhynia" is a historiographical concept made in XIX century and as accurate as Byzantium and Persia.
3. Moldavian Statehood. I know its a skeleton content and it will be changed 100%. But. In 1337 it doesnt exist as its own entity but rather is an extention of Ruthenia, a vassal at most with the King's representative at its head. Called "Rusovlachia" in multiple documents. Moldavia is established in 1352.
4. Moldavian culture. Ruthenians constituted 39.5% of Moldavian population in 1400s, most of which rural. Especially high the share of Ruthenians was in Bucovyna which retained Ruthenian majority until XIX century
5. Naming. Generally the job done with names is outstanding. No more kievs and krivoirihs. One complaint is Chernivtsi, which, based on data above, should be named Ukrainian way rather than Romanian(Cernauti) in 1337.
 
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Really great job!

By the way, many Silesian duchies were established after 1337 (mostly Upper Silesian), e.g:

  1. Duchy of Racibórz-Opava (existed in the years: 1337–1377)
  2. Duchy of Krnov (existed in the years: 1377–1849)
  3. Duchy of Pszczyna (existed in the years: 1424–1921)
  4. Duchy of Zator (existed in the years: 1445–1564)
  5. Duchy of Bielsko (existed in the years: 1572-1848)
Bishop's Duchy of Nysa is also missing at the beginning of the game - this one also lacks the Nysa location.
If you see carefully Both Wrocław and Nysa are numberd as "9" Because Wrocaław Bishop-Princes were the overlords over their Nysa vassal. So it's there
 
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I know this is a bit unrelated but I was wondering if Project Caesar will have a focus on Central Asia on launch. This is time period is probably one of the most interesting for the Chagatai since there was a large rural urban divide existing between the Tengri nomads and the Muslim cities which allowed tribes to rise up and challenge the Khan. Also since the game takes place around the birth of Tamerlane who is probably one of the most consequential leaders to ever exist.
We've heard many a "there will be Timur", but I'm extremely curious as to what the implementation will look like.
 
I’ll admit, I wish that the market access difference between river and non-river provinces was more extreme. In my opinion, we should be practically be able to see every major river as a bright line going through various markets- these were, after all, the most important avenues of trade, and it would be easier to transport bulk goods 100 km by river than 10km by cart.
 
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And anyway - as far as I can tell, all provinces use the modern names of towns, and Kyiv is now the widely used name for the Ukrainian capital in English, so that's the name that should be used. Or else, Minsk should be called Měneskъ, which would just confuse everyone.
Using modern names for old places is anachronistic.
Why dont we change Tyro into St Petersburg by this logic? Who cares if it was founded centuries later, St Petersburg already became a widely used name today.
 
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I know this is a bit unrelated but I was wondering if Project Caesar will have a focus on Central Asia on launch.
Central Asia is highly WIP now, said by Tinto in the religion overview diary. But it would come one day.
 
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The province of Płock seems to be south of the Vistula river, while the city and the historical "Ziemia Płocka" - Płock land/province are north of it.

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I think Sierpc should be renamed to Płock and maybe moved north into Żuromin, while Płock should be changed to Gostynin as the area was known as "Ziemia Gostynińska" - Gostynin land/province and the town of Gostynin was relevant during the period (for example being the place where the Russian Tsar Vasili IV Shuisky was imprisoned and died).

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Also I don't think the Płock/Gostynin location should be a farmlands because it has a lot of forest even today, and is covered in post-glacial lakes and wet areas. Both of these features should have been even more prevalent than they are today in the game's timeframe.
 
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Czersk was a very important city - it was the seat of its own duchy of Czersk, and Warsaw was only a part of it. Although I think they could add a Warsaw location.
That's why Czersk is fine, but when players form PLC they should have a similar event to the one from EUIV where you can choose to relocate capital to Warszawa (and devs, please don't use "Warsaw", use "Warszawa") and if so - Czersk should be then renamed.
 
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Those estimates tend to account for 1370, then are reverse estimated back for 1340 under wishful thinking that plague didn't happen, and Poland had positive growth of population, ergo pop in 1370 >1340. Or they just slap data from 1370 for 1340 (or 1350 table), because why not, like on one of the tables back many pages ago in this thread.
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The thing is, I. Giesztyrowa, source of that 2m in 1370 is claiming that those estimates based on Peter's Pence are heavily underestimating polish population of that era. K. Buczek straight up says, that they are completely unreliable and shouldn't be used. T. Ledenberg notes, that those tax records are not unified in any way, and it's quite hard to estimate population based on them. And of course the plague and the myth that it didn't affect Poland is heavily contested by modern historians. So suddenly culling polish pop by half of whatever, just to give magic button "avoid the plague", doesn't make sense. Especially when current number is not unreasonable.
I trust archeological data more than long dead communist era historian and according to this research
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41559-021-01652-4
black death really avoided Poland
 
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(and devs, please don't use "Warsaw", use "Warszawa")
I did not see any Warsaw or Warszawa on location map. There does be one Warszawa on province map.

Maybe the name of the location was not Warszawa in ancient name - which I’m not familiar with.

So if some location were to be rename, they won’t forget this.
 
Hi!

Fantastic job at recreating the locations in Poland. Thank you so much for this!

I have noticed few minor inaccuracies to my home area:

Area in location Karthaus is definitely not flat (well, especially when compared with other flat areas in Poland :) ). It is mostly covered by hills, woods and lakes.

I am also not convinced about Putzig being a wheat producer - soil in the area is really poor, Putzig was definitely specialized in fishery.

Wood production was rather significant in the area.

Additionally, Cistercian Order present in Oliva may be considered a source of flavor:

Oliwa Abbey at Wiki
 

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That's why Czersk is fine, but when players form PLC they should have a similar event to the one from EUIV where you can choose to relocate capital to Warszawa (and devs, please don't use "Warsaw", use "Warszawa") and if so - Czersk should be then renamed.
There is a place to add Warsaw location between Czersk and Otwock.
 
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