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Tinto Maps #8 - 28th of June 2024 - Russia

Hello, and welcome one more week to Tinto Maps! This week we’ll be taking a look at Russia!

As an introductory note, we’re just considering today the ‘Russian core’, which in 1337 comprised the different Russian Principalities, as far as the White Sea to the north, and the Ural Mountains to the east. The lands that would later be incorporated into the Russian Empire will be covered in future Tinto Maps (otherwise, we would have to cover like… 1/8th? of the land mass in just one DD).

Countries
Countries.png

Russia is divided into several Principalities in 1337. The dominant one probably is Muscovy, as its Grand Prince, Ivan I Danilovich ‘Kalita’ (‘Moneybag’) is also Prince of Nizhny Novgorod and Kostroma, and of Novgorod (by election, in this case). He also holds the title of Grand Prince of Vladimir, bestowed by the Khan of the Golden Horde, which makes him the ruler enforcing the ‘Tatar Yoke’ over other Russian Principalities (which in our game is represented through an IO; the coloring of the different countries is different tones of yellow as they are tributaries of the Yoke). The other main power in the region is the Grand Republic of Novgorod, with a completely different institutional structure, that allows them to pick their rulers. Their power comes from being the main trading power between the Baltic Sea and the Russian region, and it’s the overlord of two border countries, the Principality of Pskov, and the County of Oreshek, a buffer country in Karelia, as agreed with Sweden after a recent war. Several lands to the north and east are not owned by any country. As a final note, you may also see that Lithuania is the overlord of some of the principalities, some of them directly through Gediminid rulers (Polotsk or Vitebsk), while other over Rurikovich rulers (Smolensk or Rzhev).

Muscovy.png

Tatar Yoke.png

The starting diplomatic of Muscovy and the Tatar Yoke IO, for the sake of clarity.

Dynasties
Dynasties.png

Several branches of the House of Rurik rule over the Russian lands. Fun fact: we have 18 different branches portrayed in the game. The exceptions are a few principalities, and the ruler of Karelia, Prince Narimantas of the Lithuanian Gediminids. Also, the 'Cherdyn' and 'Vyatka' are randomly assigned dynasties, as we haven't been able to get the data for those countries on 1337.

Locations
Locations.png

We’re showing a less detailed region this week because, well, Russia is big. Feel free to ask for more detailed screenshots of specific areas, and I’ll try to provide them. We’re also showing some parts of the Steppe, Finland, and Kola, because of the scale of the map; take them as ‘unavoidable spoilers’, as we’ll talk more in-depth about them in future Tinto Maps.

Provinces
Provinces.png

The provinces of Russia. As usual, suggestions are welcomed!

Terrain
Climate.png

Topography.png

Vegetation.png

Terrain map modes. As discussed in previous Tinto Maps, we’ll read carefully your feedback, as we have plenty of room to polish them!

Cultures
Cultures.png

Cultures! As in other regions, we decided to have three different cultures in the Russian region, Novgorodian, Muscovite, and Severian. The design here is different than in the Ruthenian region, because Russia was more politically divided in the High Middle Ages, and would later be more culturally unified later on, while in Ruthenia, the situation would be the opposite. In any case, the four of them are East Slavic cultures, and we're open to feedback, of course. Apart from that, there are a bunch of different cultures bordering the region: Karelian, Pomor, Komi, Udmurt, etc. We might add some more minorities of these cultures, in the feedback pass after this DD. Also, take into account that the minorities over the Tatar lands (currently under the Kazani and Mishary cultures) are not yet done.

Religions
Religion.png

Eastern Orthodoxy is dominant in the region, although there are other religions in the area, as well; take ‘Animist’, ‘Tengrist’, and ‘Shamanist’ as wide categories, as we’d like to add a bit more granularity for them (although that will come later this year, don’t expect them to be added in the coming Tinto Maps, but maybe on the later ones). We’ve already seen some posts asking about Slavic Paganism; up until now, we’ve considered the Russian people to be Christianized, even if it was a more or less superficial process. If you’d like us to add this religion and some percentage of the population adhering to it, then I’d ask you for specific sources that could help us portray it (so, isolated references to it being followed here or there won’t be helpful, while academic sources saying ‘up to X% of the population was following Slavic rites’ might very much be).

Raw Materials
Raw Materials.png

Quite different resources to other regions previously shown, with plenty of Lumber, Fur, and Wild Game in this region. I’ve also extended a bit the screenshot to the east, so you can see the mineral richnesses of the Ural Mountains, with plenty of locations with Copper, Iron, Gold, and Lead, making it quite juicy to colonize.

Markets
Markets.png

The counter to the richness of the natural resources of the region is its integration into the different markets, which at the start of the game are centered around Novgorod, Moscow, and Kazan. Fully exploiting the economic possibilities of Russia will therefore require effort and patience.

Country and Location population
Country Population.png

Location Population SW.png

Location Population SE.png


Location Population NE.png

Location Population NW.png

Not many people inhabit the Russian core, approximately 6M in total. This poses a series of challenges regarding the expansion of any Russian country. Also, we've divided into 4 different maps of the location population of the region, to make it possible to visualize. A side note: you might note that the population of NW Novgorod and Karelia is calculated a bit differently. That's because Johan took care of drawing the Scandinavian map in an early stage of development, and the Content Design team took over the rest of Russia at a later stage when we had already refined a bit more our population calculation methods. This means that when we do the feedback pass after this Tinto Maps, in a few weeks, we'll homogenize the style, as well.

And this is all for today! We hope that you’ll find it interesting, and give us great feedback! Next week we’re traveling to Carpathia and the Balkans! See you!
 
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It's also weird because areas/provinces and countries are named after their most important towns. All those Novosils and Karachevs are towns. So I would rather be concerned about the definition of "town" here.
 
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Ingrian culture is totally wrong addition on the map. Ingrians moved into this area during 17th century when this area was ruled by Sweden.

Based on a map I found, during 14th-15th century (that this map depicts) area near modern-day St Petersburg (light green) was Izhorian and area west from it (red) was Votic. Because russians use "Chud" as synonymouse name for Estonians but also some cases for many other Finno-Ugric people, it is not clear what westernmost area should be. Presumably it is ment to show that this is the area (blue) where Estonians were present, because most commonly the word "Chud" was used for Estonians.

Numbers of Votians and Izhorians fell during 15th century when Russians deported many locals away to central Russia and changed those lands more heavily Russians. Like I mentioned earlier, later Ingerian Finns moved in who quite quickly made up more than half of the population in that area (excluding St.Petersburg).

Source of the maps should be Soviet scientist called Arseniy Nasanov. I also found an older map that was made bsed on his works that depicts this area during 10th-13th century.

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I decided to base new location on Volodimerets castle and settlement (and not Slavkovitchi that devs used), because it was to my knowledge most notable castle and settlement in that region. Based on archeological findings it is known that the settlement was there already during 13th century. Legend says that this place was named after a king of Kievan Rus called Vladimir the Great, who christianized the Rus. First chronicle mention of Volodimerets is from 1462. Germans at that time knew it as Wolmar. Nowadays this place is more known as Vladimirets. At the same time, the earliest mention I found about Slavkovitchi is from early 19th century and even without it, it seems to have way less historic importance than for example Volodimerets.

I decided to extend my original Pskov borders a bit more east so that the namesake "Volodimerets" settlement would be inside my Pskov borders.
alongside your suggestions for Pskov i added 2 more locations for Novgorod
11. Rzheva(founded 1396) and 12. Pribuzh(mentioned 1498)
btw rename Dolchinyo(its misspelled) to Belebyolka(mentioned in 15th century)

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alongside your suggestions for Pskov i added 2 more locations for Novgorod
11. Rzheva(founded 1396) and 12. Pribuzh(mentioned 1498)
btw rename Dolchinyo(its misspelled) to Belebyolka(mentioned in 15th century)

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I think they named it after Должино (Dolzhino) village in Novgorod oblast and they just misspelled it. Name could be also based on a lake that is near by.

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I found it thanks to the map I shared with you previously..

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alongside your suggestions for Pskov i added 2 more locations for Novgorod
11. Rzheva(founded 1396) and 12. Pribuzh(mentioned 1498)
btw rename Dolchinyo(its misspelled) to Belebyolka(mentioned in 15th century)

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Instead of Parfino, this location in between Kholm and Russa should be named after Kursk (Курск) later known as Kuretsk that was a significant town in the region during 14th-16th century. Kursk was first mentioned in the First Chronicle of Novgorod as Kur na Lovoti (Куръ на Ловоти).

At the same time, Parfino was just a village that was first mentioned 1490s. Parfino is also geographically in a wrong spot for it to be the name of the location, because the settlement is in the middle of the Russa location.
 
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I don't know if anyone has mentioned it, but an important source that should be looked at when making changes, is the list of Russian cities and towns that was published early 15th century and names most known towns, cities and other settlements that excisted during late 14th and early 15th century. This source could lead to better names for the locations.

Here is the map of all the settlements that were named there:
Русские_города_в_начале_XIV_в._по_Списку_Тихомиров (1).jpg
 
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I am not so well versed in that area and because of that I can't say with any kind of certainty which town/village/castle should be used as the name of the location. One source that could help to find such a settlement or castle is a following map of that area. It depicts Novgorod during 16th century after it fell under Muscovite rule.

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I decided to compare current location map with the map from 16th century that I shared before and the result is the following map:

Novgorod major settlements and castles.png


Major settlements/castles are in orange and name suggestions for previous Demyansk location are in green

Few notable changes I would make based on that map:
  • Demyansk is in the wrong place and it should be named Demon. That was that settlement's name until Novgorod Republic fell and this settlement started slowly declining soon after. Sometime in 17th century a new settlement was settled nearby and this one was named Demyansk. Demyansk village became a city 1824 and it later got downgraded to a town/urban settlement. First mention of Demon dates back to 12th century (Birch bark manuscript). Demon was also in some cases written as Deman or Demyan. Town had a fortress with the same name and it protected a local waterway. By the way "e" in the town's name is more pronounced like "e" in the English word "lemon" rather than "e" in the word "demon". I have no clue why Demon's correct location is named "Aksentevo", because name sake village was first mentioned 1629 or 1630 and it lack historical importance.
  • Like Demyansk, Bezhetsk has a wrong name and it is seemingly in a wrong place. Bezhetsk should be named Gorodetsk. According to the legend the settlement's first name was "Bezhichi" and it most likely came from Russian word for refugees. It is said that the settlers of that place fled from Novgorod and thus were refugees themselves. In chronicles also "Bezhetsk" was used. But this settlement didn't last for long because 1272 a prince from Tver destroyed it. Afterwards the center of the settlement moved to a fortress called Gorodetsk and it became the name of the settlement until 1766 when it was renamed to Bezhetsk. In most maps I have seen, this settlement is usually outside of Novgorodian borders (and not inside them) and that also makes it's current position on the game map wrong. In the proper location there is a location named "Spas-na-Kholmu" that is named after a settlement that was first mentioned 1518 and what became more relevant 1776 when it became a city. Although there was a monastary in that settlement that was founded 1461. Nevertheless, during the game start it should not be called Spas-na-Kholmu (currently known as Krasny Kholm), because there is far better are more fitting candidate for the name.
  • A major Novgorodian settlement that isn't present on the location (but should be) is a settlement that was known as Berezovets. It was a major town with a castle that protected Seliger waterway. Settlement was founded 9th century and during 12th and 13th century it became a prominent fortification and a town in Novgorod. But that glory started to disappeared in later half of the 15th century when Grand Prince of Moscow conquered it. Fairly quickly it lost it's importance like Seliger waterway did and in 1620 it was recorded that this place was totally empty and had no inhabitants. It is assumed that the final nail in the coffin might have been Time of Troubles. Because the game starts in 14th century (and not 17th century) it should be represented as a location on the map.
  • Because Ustyuzhna has had many different names arround the time of the game start (Zhelezny Ustyug, Ustyuzhna Zheleznopolskaya, Ustizhna, Ustizhnya, Ustyuzhna, Ustyuzhnya, and Yustyzhnya). I think that instead of using "Ustyuzhna Zheleznopolskaya" (what isn't even visible on the map), "Ustyuzhna" should be used instead. And if it shareas a name with another province then a shorter Ustyug-Zhelezny should be used instead. Ustyug-Zhelezny was the name used in it's first mention in the Uglich chronicle of 1252
  • Porchov should be named Porkhov. It seems to be a mispelling. Borders of Porkhov location needs some tweaking because currently it falls outside the borders of it's namesake location. I also checked google maps and it's distance from Pskov and Russa (Staraya Rusa) should be in line with what I have on the map.
  • Nöteborg should be named Oreshek (or Orekhov). During that time it was an autonomous vassal of Novgorod and not a Swedish vassal or Swedish domain.
  • Locations for Torzhok and Tver are seemingly too much west. Because I used a historic map as a source, the might be mistakes on the map itself.
  • I have no clue what lake is above Ustyuzhna. I can't find it on historic maps nor does it excist nowadays. Because of that I would remove this lake.
 
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Hello, and welcome one more week to Tinto Maps! This week we’ll be taking a look at Russia!

As an introductory note, we’re just considering today the ‘Russian core’, which in 1337 comprised the different Russian Principalities, as far as the White Sea to the north, and the Ural Mountains to the east. The lands that would later be incorporated into the Russian Empire will be covered in future Tinto Maps (otherwise, we would have to cover like… 1/8th? of the land mass in just one DD).

Countries
View attachment 1154677
Russia is divided into several Principalities in 1337. The dominant one probably is Muscovy, as its Grand Prince, Ivan I Danilovich ‘Kalita’ (‘Moneybag’) is also Prince of Nizhny Novgorod and Kostroma, and of Novgorod (by election, in this case). He also holds the title of Grand Prince of Vladimir, bestowed by the Khan of the Golden Horde, which makes him the ruler enforcing the ‘Tatar Yoke’ over other Russian Principalities (which in our game is represented through an IO; the coloring of the different countries is different tones of yellow as they are tributaries of the Yoke). The other main power in the region is the Grand Republic of Novgorod, with a completely different institutional structure, that allows them to pick their rulers. Their power comes from being the main trading power between the Baltic Sea and the Russian region, and it’s the overlord of two border countries, the Principality of Pskov, and the County of Oreshek, a buffer country in Karelia, as agreed with Sweden after a recent war. Several lands to the north and east are not owned by any country. As a final note, you may also see that Lithuania is the overlord of some of the principalities, some of them directly through Gediminid rulers (Polotsk or Vitebsk), while other over Rurikovich rulers (Smolensk or Rzhev).

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The starting diplomatic of Muscovy and the Tatar Yoke IO, for the sake of clarity.

Dynasties
View attachment 1154695
Several branches of the House of Rurik rule over the Russian lands. Fun fact: we have 18 different branches portrayed in the game. The exceptions are a few principalities, and the ruler of Karelia, Prince Narimantas of the Lithuanian Gediminids. Also, the 'Cherdyn' and 'Vyatka' are randomly assigned dynasties, as we haven't been able to get the data for those countries on 1337.

Locations
View attachment 1154683
We’re showing a less detailed region this week because, well, Russia is big. Feel free to ask for more detailed screenshots of specific areas, and I’ll try to provide them. We’re also showing some parts of the Steppe, Finland, and Kola, because of the scale of the map; take them as ‘unavoidable spoilers’, as we’ll talk more in-depth about them in future Tinto Maps.

Provinces
View attachment 1154684
The provinces of Russia. As usual, suggestions are welcomed!

Terrain
View attachment 1154685
View attachment 1154686
View attachment 1154687
Terrain map modes. As discussed in previous Tinto Maps, we’ll read carefully your feedback, as we have plenty of room to polish them!

Cultures
View attachment 1154688
Cultures! As in other regions, we decided to have three different cultures in the Russian region, Novgorodian, Muscovite, and Severian. The design here is different than in the Ruthenian region, because Russia was more politically divided in the High Middle Ages, and would later be more culturally unified later on, while in Ruthenia, the situation would be the opposite. In any case, the four of them are East Slavic cultures, and we're open to feedback, of course. Apart from that, there are a bunch of different cultures bordering the region: Karelian, Pomor, Komi, Udmurt, etc. We might add some more minorities of these cultures, in the feedback pass after this DD. Also, take into account that the minorities over the Tatar lands (currently under the Kazani and Mishary cultures) are not yet done.

Religions
View attachment 1154689
Eastern Orthodoxy is dominant in the region, although there are other religions in the area, as well; take ‘Animist’, ‘Tengrist’, and ‘Shamanist’ as wide categories, as we’d like to add a bit more granularity for them (although that will come later this year, don’t expect them to be added in the coming Tinto Maps, but maybe on the later ones). We’ve already seen some posts asking about Slavic Paganism; up until now, we’ve considered the Russian people to be Christianized, even if it was a more or less superficial process. If you’d like us to add this religion and some percentage of the population adhering to it, then I’d ask you for specific sources that could help us portray it (so, isolated references to it being followed here or there won’t be helpful, while academic sources saying ‘up to X% of the population was following Slavic rites’ might very much be).

Raw Materials
View attachment 1155251
Quite different resources to other regions previously shown, with plenty of Lumber, Fur, and Wild Game in this region. I’ve also extended a bit the screenshot to the east, so you can see the mineral richnesses of the Ural Mountains, with plenty of locations with Copper, Iron, Gold, and Lead, making it quite juicy to colonize.

Markets
View attachment 1154965
The counter to the richness of the natural resources of the region is its integration into the different markets, which at the start of the game are centered around Novgorod, Moscow, and Kazan. Fully exploiting the economic possibilities of Russia will therefore require effort and patience.

Country and Location population
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Not many people inhabit the Russian core, approximately 6M in total. This poses a series of challenges regarding the expansion of any Russian country. Also, we've divided into 4 different maps of the location population of the region, to make it possible to visualize. A side note: you might note that the population of NW Novgorod and Karelia is calculated a bit differently. That's because Johan took care of drawing the Scandinavian map in an early stage of development, and the Content Design team took over the rest of Russia at a later stage when we had already refined a bit more our population calculation methods. This means that when we do the feedback pass after this Tinto Maps, in a few weeks, we'll homogenize the style, as well.

And this is all for today! We hope that you’ll find it interesting, and give us great feedback! Next week we’re traveling to Carpathia and the Balkans! See you!
Population numbers:
Estimations right before the Mongol conquests of Rus
those estimations are extrapolated from cities data and based on the fact that approximately 2% of population were urbanised. It can be argued that up to 5% people in Rus were urbanised making those estimation almost 3 times lower.

Ryazan principality - 700k people
Vladimir principality - 1.400k people (1,4 million)
Pereyaslavl-zalessky principality - 335k people
Rostov principality - 200k people
Yaroslavl principality - 30k people
Novgorod principality - 2.225k people (2,2 million)
Smolensk principality - 775k people (11k people in the city of Smolensk)
Polotsk principality - 615k people
Chernigov principality - 2.000k people (2 million)
Pereyaslavl-yuzhniy principality - 950k people
Kiev principality - 3.900k people (3,9 million)
Volinia principality - 825k people
Turov principality - 27k people
Pinsk principality 47k people

Based on:
Кучкин В. А. Население Руси в канун Батыева нашествия. Образы аграрной России IX—XVIII вв. М. : Индрик, 2013. С. 67—88.
 
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Population numbers:
Estimations right before the Mongol conquests of Rus
those estimations are base on the fact that approximately 2% of population were urbanised

Ryazan principality - 700k people
Vladimir principality - 1.400k people (1,4 million)
Pereyaslavl-zalessky principality - 335k people
Rostov principality - 200k people
Yaroslavl principality - 30k people
Novgorod principality - 2.225k people (2,2 million)
Smolensk principality - 775k people (11k people in the city of Smolensk)
Polotsk principality - 615k people
Chernigov principality - 2.000k people (2 million)
Pereyaslavl-yuzhniy principality - 950k people
Kiev principality - 3.900k people (3,9 million)
Volinia principality - 825k people
Turov principality - 27k people
Pinsk principality 47k people

Based on:
Кучкин В. А. Население Руси в канун Батыева нашествия. Образы аграрной России IX—XVIII вв. М. : Индрик, 2013. С. 67—88.
these are very controversial figures
take the same Novgorod - in the 15th century - 500 thousand
there was no more food there. So there can be no talk of any 2 million.

The assessment of urbanization is a very controversial thing. Because the Suzdal opolye is also villages of 1-2 thousand people.
With small cities.
The Yaroslavl principality of 30 thousand - immediately raises questions) There is the capital of a rich principality with stone construction.
 
Hello, and welcome one more week to Tinto Maps! This week we’ll be taking a look at Russia!

As an introductory note, we’re just considering today the ‘Russian core’, which in 1337 comprised the different Russian Principalities, as far as the White Sea to the north, and the Ural Mountains to the east. The lands that would later be incorporated into the Russian Empire will be covered in future Tinto Maps (otherwise, we would have to cover like… 1/8th? of the land mass in just one DD).

Countries
View attachment 1154677
Russia is divided into several Principalities in 1337. The dominant one probably is Muscovy, as its Grand Prince, Ivan I Danilovich ‘Kalita’ (‘Moneybag’) is also Prince of Nizhny Novgorod and Kostroma, and of Novgorod (by election, in this case). He also holds the title of Grand Prince of Vladimir, bestowed by the Khan of the Golden Horde, which makes him the ruler enforcing the ‘Tatar Yoke’ over other Russian Principalities (which in our game is represented through an IO; the coloring of the different countries is different tones of yellow as they are tributaries of the Yoke). The other main power in the region is the Grand Republic of Novgorod, with a completely different institutional structure, that allows them to pick their rulers. Their power comes from being the main trading power between the Baltic Sea and the Russian region, and it’s the overlord of two border countries, the Principality of Pskov, and the County of Oreshek, a buffer country in Karelia, as agreed with Sweden after a recent war. Several lands to the north and east are not owned by any country. As a final note, you may also see that Lithuania is the overlord of some of the principalities, some of them directly through Gediminid rulers (Polotsk or Vitebsk), while other over Rurikovich rulers (Smolensk or Rzhev).

View attachment 1154678
View attachment 1155164
The starting diplomatic of Muscovy and the Tatar Yoke IO, for the sake of clarity.

Dynasties
View attachment 1154695
Several branches of the House of Rurik rule over the Russian lands. Fun fact: we have 18 different branches portrayed in the game. The exceptions are a few principalities, and the ruler of Karelia, Prince Narimantas of the Lithuanian Gediminids. Also, the 'Cherdyn' and 'Vyatka' are randomly assigned dynasties, as we haven't been able to get the data for those countries on 1337.

Locations
View attachment 1154683
We’re showing a less detailed region this week because, well, Russia is big. Feel free to ask for more detailed screenshots of specific areas, and I’ll try to provide them. We’re also showing some parts of the Steppe, Finland, and Kola, because of the scale of the map; take them as ‘unavoidable spoilers’, as we’ll talk more in-depth about them in future Tinto Maps.

Provinces
View attachment 1154684
The provinces of Russia. As usual, suggestions are welcomed!

Terrain
View attachment 1154685
View attachment 1154686
View attachment 1154687
Terrain map modes. As discussed in previous Tinto Maps, we’ll read carefully your feedback, as we have plenty of room to polish them!

Cultures
View attachment 1154688
Cultures! As in other regions, we decided to have three different cultures in the Russian region, Novgorodian, Muscovite, and Severian. The design here is different than in the Ruthenian region, because Russia was more politically divided in the High Middle Ages, and would later be more culturally unified later on, while in Ruthenia, the situation would be the opposite. In any case, the four of them are East Slavic cultures, and we're open to feedback, of course. Apart from that, there are a bunch of different cultures bordering the region: Karelian, Pomor, Komi, Udmurt, etc. We might add some more minorities of these cultures, in the feedback pass after this DD. Also, take into account that the minorities over the Tatar lands (currently under the Kazani and Mishary cultures) are not yet done.

Religions
View attachment 1154689
Eastern Orthodoxy is dominant in the region, although there are other religions in the area, as well; take ‘Animist’, ‘Tengrist’, and ‘Shamanist’ as wide categories, as we’d like to add a bit more granularity for them (although that will come later this year, don’t expect them to be added in the coming Tinto Maps, but maybe on the later ones). We’ve already seen some posts asking about Slavic Paganism; up until now, we’ve considered the Russian people to be Christianized, even if it was a more or less superficial process. If you’d like us to add this religion and some percentage of the population adhering to it, then I’d ask you for specific sources that could help us portray it (so, isolated references to it being followed here or there won’t be helpful, while academic sources saying ‘up to X% of the population was following Slavic rites’ might very much be).

Raw Materials
View attachment 1155251
Quite different resources to other regions previously shown, with plenty of Lumber, Fur, and Wild Game in this region. I’ve also extended a bit the screenshot to the east, so you can see the mineral richnesses of the Ural Mountains, with plenty of locations with Copper, Iron, Gold, and Lead, making it quite juicy to colonize.

Markets
View attachment 1154965
The counter to the richness of the natural resources of the region is its integration into the different markets, which at the start of the game are centered around Novgorod, Moscow, and Kazan. Fully exploiting the economic possibilities of Russia will therefore require effort and patience.

Country and Location population
View attachment 1154693
View attachment 1154984
View attachment 1154985

View attachment 1154987
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Not many people inhabit the Russian core, approximately 6M in total. This poses a series of challenges regarding the expansion of any Russian country. Also, we've divided into 4 different maps of the location population of the region, to make it possible to visualize. A side note: you might note that the population of NW Novgorod and Karelia is calculated a bit differently. That's because Johan took care of drawing the Scandinavian map in an early stage of development, and the Content Design team took over the rest of Russia at a later stage when we had already refined a bit more our population calculation methods. This means that when we do the feedback pass after this Tinto Maps, in a few weeks, we'll homogenize the style, as well.

And this is all for today! We hope that you’ll find it interesting, and give us great feedback! Next week we’re traveling to Carpathia and the Balkans! See you!
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The biggest cities in 13th century in Rus (by the size of the earthworks surrounding them) were:

Kyiv, Belgorod-Kijevsky, Pereyaslavl-yuzhniy, Chernigov, Halych, Vladimir-volinsky, Polotsk, Smolensk, Novgorod, Rostov, Suzdal, Vladimir, Murom, Ryazan

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Cities with the size of around 2,5 hectar:
Kyiv principality - Vishegorod, Tumash, CHuchin, Zarub, Kanev, Roden, Torchesky
Pereyaslavl-yuzhniy principality - Voin, Gorodets-Ostersky
Chernigov principality - Lubech, Orgosh, Novgorod-Seversky, Putivil, Trubchevsk, Bryansk, Vshizh, Serensk, Slobodka
Halych principality - Pzemysl, Terebovl, Zvenigorod, Plesensk
Volhinia principality - Belz, Suteska, Cherven, Peresopnitsa, Dorogobuzh, Izyaslavl, Beresty, Dorogichin, Solonim, Novogorodok, Goroden
Turov and Pinsk
Polotsk principality - Minsk, Vitebsk, Drutsk, Koknece, Ersike
Novgorod principality - Pskov, Rusa, Torzhok
Vladimir-Suzdal principality - Pereyaslavl-zalessky, Dmitrov, Yaroslavl, Gorodets(Nizhnii Novgorod), Bogolubivy, Jaropolch, Seminsk, Moskva, Peremishl, Beloozero
Ryazan principality - Pereyaslavl-ryazansky, Izheslavl, Pronsk

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SO: its strange to have Novgorod cities like Rusa on the map while major south cities are not even towns.

Vologda, Ladoga, Oreshek, Kursk are greatest outliers, they were too small for those classifications yet became towns. Tver can stay as a capital of the principality. Nizhny Novgorod can also be added as a town

From:
Куза А. В. Малые города Древней Руси / Отв. ред. к.и.н. А. А. Медынцева; Ред. карт к.и.н. А. К. Зайцев. Институт археологии АН СССР. — М.: Наука, 1989. — 168, [1] с. — 3000 экз. — ISBN 5-02-009473-0.
 
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these are very controversial figures
take the same Novgorod - in the 15th century - 500 thousand
there was no more food there. So there can be no talk of any 2 million.

The assessment of urbanization is a very controversial thing. Because the Suzdal opolye is also villages of 1-2 thousand people.
With small cities.
The Yaroslavl principality of 30 thousand - immediately raises questions) There is the capital of a rich principality with stone construction.
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The author also discusses the posibility of using from 2% up to 5% urbanised population, but I will add a note that those numbers are extrapolated from cities populations


Because the Suzdal opolye is also villages of 1-2 thousand people.
An this is strange. Suzdal was one of the biggest Rus` cities. Strange to call it a village while it had a big earthwork arround it
 
The author also discusses the posibility of using from 2% up to 5% urbanised population, but I will add a note that those numbers are extrapolated from cities populations



An this is strange. Suzdal was one of the biggest Rus` cities. Strange to call it a village while it had a big earthwork arround it
Suzdal was not big.
3-5 thousand.
twice as small as Vladimir, which was 10-12.

I read your author. But this is a controversial method of calculation.
 
I will be happy if you can send or direct me to the books/papers/works where to find those numbers
to immediately for all of Rus' - difficult. You need to look separately at the literature for the cities-principalities.

Tatars argue Bilyar is 30 thousand population by the area of urban development, or 15-20.

Because the calculated coefficients, how many people per 1 hectare are very controversial.

Plus in your link above only the areas of fortifications - detinets.

And the area of settlements, and how to take them into account (especially if they are not excavated) is a separate question. Considering that fortifications were not everywhere.
 
I will be happy if you can send or direct me to the books/papers/works where to find those numbers
Even if your rough estimates of the pre-Mongol Rus population are correct, the population of the Rus fell catastrophically, so that by the middle of the 16th century it was only 6.5 million people (and this is before the Time of Troubles, which further reduced the population). Of course, the Black Death, which will occur after the starting date, also played a role in the population decline, and the starting situation should take this into account, but the yoke brought constant destruction, such as the plundering of lands and constant internecine wars, which slowed down the economic recovery of the lands.
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Even if your rough estimates of the pre-Mongol Rus population are correct, the population of the Rus fell catastrophically, so that by the middle of the 16th century it was only 6.5 million people (and this is before the Time of Troubles, which further reduced the population). Of course, the Black Death, which will occur after the starting date, also played a role in the population decline, and the starting situation should take this into account, but the yoke brought constant destruction, such as the plundering of lands and constant internecine wars, which slowed down the economic recovery of the lands.
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This is a pre-industrial society where, with an abundance of agricultural land, the population can double every 25 years.

northeastern Rus' recovered fairly quickly after the invasion (albeit with a decline in urban culture). And Tatars were seen there episodically.
here is southern Rus', bordering the steppe, that one depopulated in waves.
Just recovered - Nogai, and the devastation of his southern Russian vassals.
Then recovered - Zamyatnya.
Then - Crimea takes out everything to Belarus with raids.