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No u. I won't be able to run a big game. I might have time to run a lite, but that went poorly last time I thought so. If noone puts one up by the end of the weekend I might.
I cannot possibly run a game this week. My schedule is WAY too uncertain.
Put up a lite! MACH SCHNELL!
I think a randy gm'd game would be good. Another well thought out game is the way too go.
Yakman, when do you want to start your Xmas game? Is there really time for another big before that?
I was going to start it, immediately after the next big ended.
IF no one is going to start a BIG I think I'll begin the sign ups this weekend.
BUT I WANT A LITE! NEED WEREWOLF NOW!!!!
All werewolf is, is calculated guesswork and a dab of luck. When did werewolf become about winning? I knew i would die but i did it anyway for the good or bad, for the shits and the giggles, for the 70 plus pages of discussion. Thats the werewolf id like to see and so fabled before my time. What ever happened, i enjoyed it
(LIKE) *thumb up*
The things I do for you people...
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum...-needs-a-clever-title&p=14660472#post14660472
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum...-needs-a-clever-title&p=14660472#post14660472
Well, if that happened the Wolf would have been outed very fast...
And then interesting things would have started happening...
I hope the GM will finish this AAR, because the game wasn't finished when the seer died.
I like to know why the village wasn't able to win this game (even with a dead seer).
Because even with a dead seer, I was (as a ghost) able to tell exactly who the 3 Alpha baddies were (with 9 players left).
And I gave that prediction to a ghost and the GM, so I can prove that I'm not telling this with hindsight.
OK, I also had a Bravo baddie in my prediction, but I don't believe that was really relevant at that stage...
And the post I sent to the GM and the ghost was :
Oh, I messed up here with Alpha and Bravo, but I guess the intention was clear ...
And yes there was a strange set-up.
I like to know why the village wasn't able to win this game (even with a dead seer).
Because even with a dead seer, I was (as a ghost) able to tell exactly who the 3 Alpha baddies were (with 9 players left).
And I gave that prediction to a ghost and the GM, so I can prove that I'm not telling this with hindsight.
OK, I also had a Bravo baddie in my prediction, but I don't believe that was really relevant at that stage...
And the post I sent to the GM and the ghost was :
AVN said:
Oh, I messed up here with Alpha and Bravo, but I guess the intention was clear ...
And yes there was a strange set-up.
Yes, yes, I will finish it later. The rest just wasn't as active behind the scenes.
I'd say the village's loss is highly dependent on both misjudging pack compositions and straight up lynching all the wrong people.
And most of all, Alpha still had a Leader left. Without it they would have had a significantly harder time winning.
Not true, we actually had more villagers voting for the non-wolf than for me.... Also Snoopdog would have been hunted as he had a fairly strong alibi at that point....
GM AAR - The End of Bravo and A New Dawn For Alpha
When we left off the village had just lynched the centerpiece of the JL, AVN the Witness, and EL the Seer had been hunted by the wolves. All caused more or less directly by the Bravo wolf Adamus. Surely he is a sure goner now, as he expected himself?
Accusing Johho of being his "source"? Really?
Cliges and Falc both take the bait, but other than that it seems this village is still safe.
Oh, reis and Funnyman both join in on Johho. Lynching the GA immediately after losing the Seer and Witness to a fake outing?
Reis puts his head on the nail. How did Adamus know? Was it an insider, a scan? Nope, it was just him figuring out that EL and AVN were in it together. Of course nobody thinks about that, making the case against Johho just that tiny bit more plausible that it is enough to convince some people.
Meanwhile, Split subs in for Paendrag and jacob requests a sub. Somewhat unfortunate, since jacob has the Leader trait. For a while, before Split subbed in, I was sure I'd have to autolynch both Paen and jacob, effectively leaving a very weak Alpha pack. It worked out just fine however, although the amount of no-votes was unfortunate.
In Alpha, there's also talk about what to do about the_hdk:
Alpha is planning for the future. A future without Bravos. And the Bravos, well, they're planning for Adamus to be dead, the_hdk to not be dead and are numbering suspicious people. I don't know what for, the seer is already gone and hc says himself that he thinks the quiet people are Alphas, which is entirely correct. Unfortunately for him Alpha hunts.
In the early morning, after sending me a very teasing PM, reis also makes a good effort at WoT-analysis. It's a shame pretty much all of it is wrong, pointing out Yakman and Johho as packmates when they were never even in contact (AFAIK). In his defence, Yakman lucked out when Xarkan was lynched and somehow managed to out him as a cultist with no evidence whatsoever.
Xeno decides that a hunt is to be preferred over a lynch, fearing the_hdk's scans (that he never used).
The village sees the best solution and Adamus gets it. hdk gets hunted and suddenly Bravo is down to 1 ex-cursed wolf. Ouch. And in case you're wondering, johho was busy protecting TNT (he went for the scanned players, assuming they would be getting hunted now).
HC, now alone, wants trespoe the not-so-evil Apprentice dead.
His backup hunt was considerably better, but in the end it didn't matter. Because now the Village is onto him! And Xeno!
Cody tells everyone that Yakman is not a Wolf (he was scanned by Hashoosh, the seerish powers, during some night) and after that it's a pilefest on Xeno and HC. Two wolves, really? It's a shame for the village (but wonderful for me) that Xeno is brutal! At this point it was set on Snoop, the cursed hunter who forgot he was a hunter.
Common for the day was that there was loads of analysis, and mostly good one too. Trespoe pinpoints Rendap as an Alpha cultist, but aside from Xeno the rest of his baddie list is all smoke. Not surprising, considering how heavily people had argued for and against wolves throughout the game. Yakman believes the quiet ones may be wolves and that reis is trying to create smoke-screens for a few wolves. He actually names Xeno, Jacob and Rendap, all three Alpha.
Meanwhile, Esemesas subs in for jacob. Alpha is now at full strength and with HC in the running they have a really good shot at dominating the endgame. Especially with some villagers going all tunnel-vision...
For some reason, johho wants to keep Cliges alive. I would have hoped for him to get hunted honestly, to prevent him being scape-goated by the wolves.
Funnyman claims to be the Rival of Hashoosh, who denies everything. Don't ask me why, I even
Sometime during the evening Xeno changes his brutal to johho. Ouch, that's the last protector gone.
Xeno does make one last dash to avoid the lynch:
He only manages to sway one though and ends up tied with HC and we have two dead wolves, one dead GA and one dead Yakman, hunted by Alpha, all in one update. Glorious! Now Bravo is dead and Alpha has a solid 3-man pack left, including one shiny Leader trait. They still have a few days to survive however...
When we left off the village had just lynched the centerpiece of the JL, AVN the Witness, and EL the Seer had been hunted by the wolves. All caused more or less directly by the Bravo wolf Adamus. Surely he is a sure goner now, as he expected himself?
Accusing Johho of being his "source"? Really?
Cliges and Falc both take the bait, but other than that it seems this village is still safe.
Oh, reis and Funnyman both join in on Johho. Lynching the GA immediately after losing the Seer and Witness to a fake outing?
Reis puts his head on the nail. How did Adamus know? Was it an insider, a scan? Nope, it was just him figuring out that EL and AVN were in it together. Of course nobody thinks about that, making the case against Johho just that tiny bit more plausible that it is enough to convince some people.
Meanwhile, Split subs in for Paendrag and jacob requests a sub. Somewhat unfortunate, since jacob has the Leader trait. For a while, before Split subbed in, I was sure I'd have to autolynch both Paen and jacob, effectively leaving a very weak Alpha pack. It worked out just fine however, although the amount of no-votes was unfortunate.
In Alpha, there's also talk about what to do about the_hdk:
XenomorphII said:Rendap said:Najs said:
YAY! We got a Split!
Welcome Master!
I am your friendly neighbourhood Cultist. Responsible for the scan and hunt of Randy. And we know that hdk is a Plotter Cultist.
We'll hunt tonight, but so far no order have been sent. We don't have any standing orders.
Having said that - Xeno, don't forget to set a Brutal if you haven't done so already...
I have my brutal set on Snoop for now, but I may change it. I feel like the biggest threat to us right now is the cultists of the other pack, as apparently they have lots of them (one is dead, another is confirmed, and yet another infiltrated the JL).
We might want to have HDK outed today as well. Not knowing if he has used his 2 scans, I would rather kill him and be sure. For our hunt, I wonder if Comm Cody was a leader werewolf, since he did save hdk who would have been one of his cultists. I want it to be us hunting only as soon as possible.
Welcome SPLIT!
Alpha is planning for the future. A future without Bravos. And the Bravos, well, they're planning for Adamus to be dead, the_hdk to not be dead and are numbering suspicious people. I don't know what for, the seer is already gone and hc says himself that he thinks the quiet people are Alphas, which is entirely correct. Unfortunately for him Alpha hunts.
As for the thread, a wolf has to tell the village what the proper thing to do is. Pathetic, really.humancalculator said:
In the early morning, after sending me a very teasing PM, reis also makes a good effort at WoT-analysis. It's a shame pretty much all of it is wrong, pointing out Yakman and Johho as packmates when they were never even in contact (AFAIK). In his defence, Yakman lucked out when Xarkan was lynched and somehow managed to out him as a cultist with no evidence whatsoever.
Xeno decides that a hunt is to be preferred over a lynch, fearing the_hdk's scans (that he never used).
XenomorphII said:
The village sees the best solution and Adamus gets it. hdk gets hunted and suddenly Bravo is down to 1 ex-cursed wolf. Ouch. And in case you're wondering, johho was busy protecting TNT (he went for the scanned players, assuming they would be getting hunted now).
HC, now alone, wants trespoe the not-so-evil Apprentice dead.
humancalculator said:
His backup hunt was considerably better, but in the end it didn't matter. Because now the Village is onto him! And Xeno!
Cody tells everyone that Yakman is not a Wolf (he was scanned by Hashoosh, the seerish powers, during some night) and after that it's a pilefest on Xeno and HC. Two wolves, really? It's a shame for the village (but wonderful for me) that Xeno is brutal! At this point it was set on Snoop, the cursed hunter who forgot he was a hunter.
Common for the day was that there was loads of analysis, and mostly good one too. Trespoe pinpoints Rendap as an Alpha cultist, but aside from Xeno the rest of his baddie list is all smoke. Not surprising, considering how heavily people had argued for and against wolves throughout the game. Yakman believes the quiet ones may be wolves and that reis is trying to create smoke-screens for a few wolves. He actually names Xeno, Jacob and Rendap, all three Alpha.
Meanwhile, Esemesas subs in for jacob. Alpha is now at full strength and with HC in the running they have a really good shot at dominating the endgame. Especially with some villagers going all tunnel-vision...
For some reason, johho wants to keep Cliges alive. I would have hoped for him to get hunted honestly, to prevent him being scape-goated by the wolves.
Funnyman claims to be the Rival of Hashoosh, who denies everything. Don't ask me why, I even
Sometime during the evening Xeno changes his brutal to johho. Ouch, that's the last protector gone.
Xeno does make one last dash to avoid the lynch:
He only manages to sway one though and ends up tied with HC and we have two dead wolves, one dead GA and one dead Yakman, hunted by Alpha, all in one update. Glorious! Now Bravo is dead and Alpha has a solid 3-man pack left, including one shiny Leader trait. They still have a few days to survive however...
True.
But at least you have discovered now that something is wrong with your analyzing methods.
I'm sure now you will do better in future games
True.
But at least you have discovered now that something is wrong with your analyzing methods.
I'm sure now you will do better in future games
Yeah, something is wrong. They don't work 100% of the time.