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Tinto Maps #10 - 12th of July 2024 - Syrian Levant & Egypt

Hello everyone, and welcome to another Tinto Maps! We’re back after celebrating the most important victories over Germany and France since the 30 Years War a hard week of work, and we’re ready to share with you the region of the Syrian Levant & Egypt (actually, we’re revealing a bit more of what those regions would be, to cover the complete extension of the Mamlūk Sultanate). Let’s go!

Countries:
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The Mamlūk Sultanate is the main power of the region, a situation achieved after the defeat of the Mongols at the Battles of Ain Jalut and Marj al-Saffar, and the fall of Acre, the last stronghold of the Crusader states in Outremer. The latter's legacy is still handled by the Kingdom of Cyprus, ruled by Hugues IV of Lusignan. Apart from that, we can see the realm of Candia, a subject governed by the Serene Republic of Venice, and some Arabic tribes, such as the Hutaym and the Anizah. Oh, and also, to the south-west, you might have noticed some oases ruled by either the Mamluks, or Fezzan; I opted for not coloring the wastelands, as usual, but also the corridors, a type of terrain present in other GSGs, that we have in Project Caesar. I’ll talk more about them under the ‘Locations’ section of the DD, but I just want to note one more thing: the connection down the Nile is a regular one, with a border existing between the Mamluks and Makuria (the country that controls the small chunk of land at the very south of the image).

Dynasties:
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The Bahri Mamluks have ruled the Sultanate since they deposed the Ayyubids, almost a century before the start of the game. It could maybe be a bit more accurate to depict Sultan al-Nasir Muhammad as an ibn Qalawun (‘of the lineage of Qalawun’), but the dynastical dynamics of the Mamluk rulers are not so easy to portray, so we opted for the moment to better use Bahriyya. Apart from that, you may also see the neighboring dynasties, such as the already-mentioned House of Lusignan, or the Hethumian of Cilicia.

Locations:
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Here you can see the locations of the entire region, and also closer chunks behind the ‘Spoiler’ button. The most interesting feature to talk about is that of the corridors, something that some of you might remember from ‘Imperator: Rome’, but also something new to the rest. The corridors are empty locations, with no population or resources, but that allows connection between the locations at their sides, for some mechanics that we’ve already mentioned (market access, control), and some others that we haven’t (army movement). This is the way that we’ve chosen to portray the Saharan corridors, that allow for a connection between the Maghreb and the Mashreq, and Western and Central Africa. There are also some regular locations over those corridors, with population, resources, etc., that can be controlled by countries, which portray the desert oases that made for important outposts in the different Saharan routes. Not all the connections are throughout corridors, though; outside of the image, the Nile River valley allows for regular locations all the way down from Egypt to Nubia, the last location held by the Mamluks being that of Aswan, while the first held by Makuria, not shown in the screenshot, being Qasr Ibrim. We will talk more about Nubia and Ethiopia in a future Tinto Maps.

Provinces:
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Usual provinces mapmode; please let us know of any spelling or naming suggestions that come to your mind.

Areas:
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A new mapmode that has been requested in previous Tinto Maps, and that we’re now incorporating.

Terrain:
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The climate is dominated by a mix of Mediterranean, Arid, and Cold Arid. The topography of the region is quite flat, with some hills and mountains on Mount Lebanon and Anti-Lebanon, Mount Sinai, and the verge of the Arabian plateau; and some marshland over the Nile Delta, of course. Regarding the vegetation, desert and sparse vegetation dominate most of the region, with some woods and forests over Levant, and the Nile fertile farmlands, the bread basket of the Eastern Mediterranean.

Cultures:
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Here starts the fun… Those countries ruling over the Middle East will face the challenge of managing several different cultural minorities. Libyan, Egyptian, Sa'idi, Bedouin, Ḥijāzī, Najidi (the green one to their right), Levantine, and Iraqi (the light blue at the top right of the picture) are all different regional cultures of Arabic-speaking people. Something interesting is that most of Bedouin pops are tribesmen, instead of peasants, portraying their traditional social organization. Coming to important minority groups, Coptic people are quite important in Egypt, accounting for about 10% of the population of the Mamlūk Sultanate. The other important minority are the Syriacs, as they also account for another 10% of the population, and are a cultural majority in a few locations. Apart from those, there are also Armenians, Kurds, and Turkomans on the divide between Anatolia, Syria, and Jazira, Alawites Shiites in Syria, Mizrahi Jews all over the region, Samaritans in Palestine, and Greeks in Crete, Cyprus, and some in Alexandria. Oh, also the Saharan cultures of the Eastern Berbers and the Toubou over some of the Saharan oases.

Religions:
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More fun. In this region, we have:
  • Sunni Muslims
  • Miaphysite Christians
  • Orthodox Christians
  • Shia Muslims
  • Catholic Christians
  • Druzes
  • Jews
  • Nestorian Christians (the ‘label’ we’re using to depict the Church of the East)
  • Samaritans
  • Yazidi

Relating these religions to the previous cultures, we can tell you most of the Arabic-speaking cultures are Sunni Muslims, with some Shia Muslims in Syria and Lebanon. Most of the Coptic are Miaphysite, adhering to the Patriarchate of Alexandria, although some of there still follow the Orthodoxy of Constantinople. The Syriacs are also religiously divided, with some being Nestorians (the current name we have to cover the confessions related to the Church of the East), some Miaphysites, some Orthodox, and even some Catholics in Lebanon. And then we have some cultural-religious minorities, such as the Alawite Shiites, the Druzes (which are of Levantine culture), the Mizrahi Jews, the Samaritans, and the Yazidi (which are of Kurd culture).


Raw Materials:
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There are some materials that are more unique to this region, such as the Dates in the arid fringes. The Nile Valley and Delta are incredibly fertile, having plenty of different crops: Wheat, Rice, Legumes, Sugar, Cotton, Fiber Crops (=Linen), etc. Livestock, Wool, and Horses are also important resources for the people across the region. There are also some metals present in the region, such as Copper in Cyprus and around the Red Sea, Iron, Tin, some Lead, and some interesting sources of Alum.

Markets:
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The main market centers of the region are Alexandria (yeah, it’s there! I’ve already reported its weird name-wrapping and one of our programmers is going to take a look at it) for the Mashreq, Damascus for the Syrian Levant and Mecca for the Hejaz.

Country and Location Population:
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The population of the region points to Egypt being its powerhouse, with several million people being supported being the Nile Valley and Delta. Apart from that, the Syrian Levant has a very decent population, making the Mamlūk Sultanate a dreadful rival to have in 1337. The arid fringes make for a way more difficult food production and population sustainability, making them more of strategic value, by their position, resources, etc.

And that’s all for today! Next week @Johan will show you Scandinavia, the very first map that was crafted for Project Caesar! Cheers!
 
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Hello everyone, and welcome to another Tinto Maps! We’re back after celebrating the most important victories over Germany and France since the 30 Years War a hard week of work, and we’re ready to share with you the region of the Syrian Levant & Egypt (actually, we’re revealing a bit more of what those regions would be, to cover the complete extension of the Mamlūk Sultanate). Let’s go!

Countries:
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The Mamlūk Sultanate is the main power of the region, a situation achieved after the defeat of the Mongols at the Battles of Ain Jalut and Marj al-Saffar, and the fall of Acre, the last stronghold of the Crusader states in Outremer. The latter's legacy is still handled by the Kingdom of Cyprus, ruled by Hugues IV of Lusignan. Apart from that, we can see the realm of Candia, a subject governed by the Serene Republic of Venice, and some Arabic tribes, such as the Hutaym and the Anizah. Oh, and also, to the south-west, you might have noticed some oases ruled by either the Mamluks, or Fezzan; I opted for not coloring the wastelands, as usual, but also the corridors, a type of terrain present in other GSGs, that we have in Project Caesar. I’ll talk more about them under the ‘Locations’ section of the DD, but I just want to note one more thing: the connection down the Nile is a regular one, with a border existing between the Mamluks and Makuria (the country that controls the small chunk of land at the very south of the image).

Dynasties:
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The Bahri Mamluks have ruled the Sultanate since they deposed the Ayyubids, almost a century before the start of the game. It could maybe be a bit more accurate to depict Sultan al-Nasir Muhammad as an ibn Qalawun (‘of the lineage of Qalawun’), but the dynastical dynamics of the Mamluk rulers are not so easy to portray, so we opted for the moment to better use Bahriyya. Apart from that, you may also see the neighboring dynasties, such as the already-mentioned House of Lusignan, or the Hethumian of Cilicia.

Locations:
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Here you can see the locations of the entire region, and also closer chunks behind the ‘Spoiler’ button. The most interesting feature to talk about is that of the corridors, something that some of you might remember from ‘Imperator: Rome’, but also something new to the rest. The corridors are empty locations, with no population or resources, but that allows connection between the locations at their sides, for some mechanics that we’ve already mentioned (market access, control), and some others that we haven’t (army movement). This is the way that we’ve chosen to portray the Saharan corridors, that allow for a connection between the Maghreb and the Mashreq, and Western and Central Africa. There are also some regular locations over those corridors, with population, resources, etc., that can be controlled by countries, which portray the desert oases that made for important outposts in the different Saharan routes. Not all the connections are throughout corridors, though; outside of the image, the Nile River valley allows for regular locations all the way down from Egypt to Nubia, the last location held by the Mamluks being that of Aswan, while the first held by Makuria, not shown in the screenshot, being Qasr Ibrim. We will talk more about Nubia and Ethiopia in a future Tinto Maps.

Provinces:
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Usual provinces mapmode; please let us know of any spelling or naming suggestions that come to your mind.

Areas:
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A new mapmode that has been requested in previous Tinto Maps, and that we’re now incorporating.

Terrain:
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The climate is dominated by a mix of Mediterranean, Arid, and Cold Arid. The topography of the region is quite flat, with some hills and mountains on Mount Lebanon and Anti-Lebanon, Mount Sinai, and the verge of the Arabian plateau; and some marshland over the Nile Delta, of course. Regarding the vegetation, desert and sparse vegetation dominate most of the region, with some woods and forests over Levant, and the Nile fertile farmlands, the bread basket of the Eastern Mediterranean.

Cultures:
View attachment 1161753
Here starts the fun… Those countries ruling over the Middle East will face the challenge of managing several different cultural minorities. Libyan, Egyptian, Sa'idi, Bedouin, Ḥijāzī, Najidi (the green one to their right), Levantine, and Iraqi (the light blue at the top right of the picture) are all different regional cultures of Arabic-speaking people. Something interesting is that most of Bedouin pops are tribesmen, instead of peasants, portraying their traditional social organization. Coming to important minority groups, Coptic people are quite important in Egypt, accounting for about 10% of the population of the Mamlūk Sultanate. The other important minority are the Syriacs, as they also account for another 10% of the population, and are a cultural majority in a few locations. Apart from those, there are also Armenians, Kurds, and Turkomans on the divide between Anatolia, Syria, and Jazira, Alawites Shiites in Syria, Mizrahi Jews all over the region, Samaritans in Palestine, and Greeks in Crete, Cyprus, and some in Alexandria. Oh, also the Saharan cultures of the Eastern Berbers and the Toubou over some of the Saharan oases.

Religions:
View attachment 1161754
More fun. In this region, we have:
  • Sunni Muslims
  • Miaphysite Christians
  • Orthodox Christians
  • Shia Muslims
  • Catholic Christians
  • Druzes
  • Jews
  • Nestorian Christians (the ‘label’ we’re using to depict the Church of the East)
  • Samaritans
  • Yazidi

Relating these religions to the previous cultures, we can tell you most of the Arabic-speaking cultures are Sunni Muslims, with some Shia Muslims in Syria and Lebanon. Most of the Coptic are Miaphysite, adhering to the Patriarchate of Alexandria, although some of there still follow the Orthodoxy of Constantinople. The Syriacs are also religiously divided, with some being Nestorians (the current name we have to cover the confessions related to the Church of the East), some Miaphysites, some Orthodox, and even some Catholics in Lebanon. And then we have some cultural-religious minorities, such as the Alawite Shiites, the Druzes (which are of Levantine culture), the Mizrahi Jews, the Samaritans, and the Yazidi (which are of Kurd culture).

Raw Materials:
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There are some materials that are more unique to this region, such as the Dates in the arid fringes. The Nile Valley and Delta are incredibly fertile, having plenty of different crops: Wheat, Rice, Legumes, Sugar, Cotton, Fiber Crops (=Linen), etc. Livestock, Wool, and Horses are also important resources for the people across the region. There are also some metals present in the region, such as Copper in Cyprus and around the Red Sea, Iron, Tin, some Lead, and some interesting sources of Alum.

Markets:
View attachment 1161756
The main market centers of the region are Alexandria (yeah, it’s there! I’ve already reported its weird name-wrapping and one of our programmers is going to take a look at it) for the Mashreq, Damascus for the Syrian Levant and Mecca for the Hejaz.

Country and Location Population:
View attachment 1161757
The population of the region points to Egypt being its powerhouse, with several million people being supported being the Nile Valley and Delta. Apart from that, the Syrian Levant has a very decent population, making the Mamlūk Sultanate a dreadful rival to have in 1337. The arid fringes make for a way more difficult food production and population sustainability, making them more of strategic value, by their position, resources, etc.

And that’s all for today! Next week @Johan will show you Scandinavia, the very first map that was crafted for Project Caesar! Cheers!
This isn't about this map in particular, but more generally about the trade goods map mode. I would love to be able to look at the map zoomed out and really be able to tell how trade goods differ by region. I think at the moment with every trade good basically having a random color, that's hard. I think it would be cool to have the trade good map be similar to the locations map which now groups location color by province so you can tell both at the same time. By that I mean if raw trade goods were grouped into similar colors for, say, crops, metals/mining, animals/animal products. Idk exactly how it would work, but by having sort of color groups, it would be much easier to tell from afar what regions are more agriculture-heavy or pastoral or mining etc etc.
 
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I assume given your profile change, it did not come home?
I think it's either a colleague's prank, or a lost bet, hahahaha
 
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Hi I would just like to add that the Anza tribe does not rule the area near Medina. In fact, the
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Anza tribe is stationed in the north of the Arabian Peninsula and they are the gateway to it. The rulers are the Harb tribe. This map will help in identifying the tribes Thank you I hope seeing all the tribes will be a wonderful addition ❤️
 
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Hi I would just like to add that the Anza tribe does not rule the area near Medina. In fact, the View attachment 1163675Anza tribe is stationed in the north of the Arabian Peninsula and they are the gateway to it. The rulers are the Harb tribe. This map will help in identifying the tribes Thank you I hope seeing all the tribes will be a wonderful addition ❤️
What's the time period for this map? It looks quite detailed, but what era does that represent?
 
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What's the time period for this map? It looks quite detailed, but what era does that represent?
From a reverse google image search, it looks like 1949:

 
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From a reverse google image search, it looks like 1949:

In that case, it seems like there would definitely be some changes between post-Ottoman Arabia and pre-Ottoman Arabia.
 
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outside of the image, the Nile River valley allows for regular locations all the way down from Egypt to Nubia, the last location held by the Mamluks being that of Aswan, while the first held by Makuria, not shown in the screenshot, being Qasr Ibrim. We will talk more about Nubia and Ethiopia in a future Tinto Maps.
Excited to see how Nubia will play out. The religions map mode seems to imply that Qasr Ibrim at least is majority Christian, but that Makuria is nominally Muslim. The ruling king was, however, most likely still Siti (attested from documents dating to 1331 and 1333), who was Christian. For more see Robin Seignobos "Émir à Assouan, souverain à Dongola".
 
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According to Ali Asger Cemrasi, a Khalaj historian, Khalaj Turks (who previously migrated from Syr Darya to Khorasan, and then to Sistan, Zabulistan and India and are related to the Gilzai of Herat in Afghanistan) had a branch that migrated to Mughan and then to the Levant area. This branch later joined Timur and returned to Iran's Qom and Markazi ostans, which is their current residence. The Khalaj were extremely important due to being the rulers of Delhi and have their own, very distinct Turkic language with archaic features of Old Turkic preserved. The ones in India and Herat were later Pashtofied (though Sistan, Herat and India should have Turkic Khalaj at the game's start) and some of the ones in Iran later migrated to Qashqa'i territory in Fars. The ones in Levant returned to Iran with Timur's army and settled in their current region of central western Iran, alongside their kin from that region and Mughan.

To summarize, Syria, Palestine and Lebanon should have some Khalaj at the start, who will migrate to Rayy and Qom with an event upon Timur's coming. There should also be Khalaj in Sistan, Herat and Delhi too. They should have their own culture, related to Karluk (whom they lived with before Islam) or Azeri (also Turko-Iranians). Hope this is implemented into the game!

Sources:

The Khalaj People and their Language by Sonel Bosnalı

Khalaj in the Mirror of History by Ali Asger Cemrasi

İran'da Yaşayan Halaç Türklerinin Sosyo-kültürel Yapısı (Sociocultural Structure of the Khalaj Turks Living in Iran) by Belal Hatemi Khajeh (master's thesis)

I would love to provide and dig up more information if the developers want so!
 
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Will the Banu Kanz be represented? It seems that in 1337 they have power over Aswan.

I also propose adding two oases, Kurkur and Dunqul, they should be located in the Nubian region.

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Is Banu Kanz the oasis with today Kom Umbu (number 9 in my proposal below) ?
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Around Aswan, there's already very little population, 4 extra locations seems a bit very much...
 
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Is Banu Kanz the oasis with today Kom Umbu (number 9 in my proposal below) ?
Banu Kanz is not an oasis. Banu Kanz is an Arab tribe in 1337, they controlled Aswan, the surrounding oases and the dry bed of the wadi Allaqi river.
Around Aswan, there's already very little population, 4 extra locations seems a bit very much...
As for oases, it is enough to add one oasis, i.e. Kurkur, because it is the largest oasis.
Aswan should also have a Nubian population and most of the inhabitants should be Shiites.
 
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Hi I would just like to add that the Anza tribe does not rule the area near Medina. In fact, the View attachment 1163675Anza tribe is stationed in the north of the Arabian Peninsula and they are the gateway to it. The rulers are the Harb tribe. This map will help in identifying the tribes Thank you I hope seeing all the tribes will be a wonderful addition ❤️
"According to the historians Abu'l-Hasan Bayhaqi and Ibn Sa'id al-Maghribi, the Anizah tribe settled in the Hijaz region, specifically in Khaybar, at the end of the 10th century AD.[1][2] Ali bin al Mugrab Al Uyuni mentioned the news of the Anizah tribe fighting rulers of Khaybar, al Jaafar al-Tayyar and expelled them from it.[3]"
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"The modern tribe of Anizah became prominent in the Ottoman era, as masters of the oasis towns of northwestern Arabia, particularly Khaybar and Al-'Ula. […] According to Encyclopedia of Islam, "it is not known whence they came", while many such as the Western travelers Philby and Anne Blunt simply assumed they had recently migrated from Nejd, having been pushed northwards into Syria by other tribes."
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"The Harb tribe dates to the 2nd century of the Islamic calendar. When Qahtani tribes emigrated from the south of Arabian Peninsula to Hejaz around 131 AH for water and land space after some battles with their cousins Banu Ar-Rabi'ah bin Saad. This caused several tribal conflicts with the native and mostly Adnani Arab tribes of Hejaz and Tihamah such as Juhaynah, Anazzah, Muzaynah, and Sulaym over land and water. After around three centuries in Hejaz, the Harb tribe became a dominant tribe in the heart of Hejaz with territories surrounding the holy city of Medina."

Sourced that Wikipedia links in the Anizah section (it doesn't link to the Encyclopedia of Islam article and I am too lazy to look it up so no idea how legit it is):
1. Abu'l-Hasan Bayhaqi, alkamayim
2. Ibn Sa'id al-Maghribi, The rapture in the history of the pre-Islamic Arabs
3. Diwan ibn al Mugrab

Apparently the Anizah of Syria (the one shown in the map you posted from the 20th century) seem to have migrated there or emerged at a later point; meanwhile the Harb tribe's wikipedia page quite literally says they are near Medina, although it does not cite a source for that section in particular so I'd be cautious about it.
 
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Will the Banu Kanz be represented? It seems that in 1337 they have power over Aswan.

I also propose adding two oases, Kurkur and Dunqul, they should be located in the Nubian region.

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Kurkur is most likely supposed to be represented by the corridor from Aswan to Baris. Neither Kurkur or Dunqul have permanent populations (and even if they did, the oases are simply too small to allow any sort of Population growth in-game. Compare both which even today have 0 development to the other Oases in Egypt which have established towns, agricultural lands, permanent populations, etc. Being used as a stop by either merchants or nomadic tribes does not warrant a full on location
 
Kurkur is most likely supposed to be represented by the corridor from Aswan to Baris. Neither Kurkur or Dunqul have permanent populations (and even if they did, the oases are simply too small to allow any sort of Population growth in-game. Compare both which even today have 0 development to the other Oases in Egypt which have established towns, agricultural lands, permanent populations, etc. Being used as a stop by either merchants or nomadic tribes does not warrant a full on location
Maybe you're right, but I'd rather wait for the creators' response as to whether they are interested in adding such oases. If they say they are interested in adding such oases, then such oases should have a modifier that limits population growth.
 
Banu Kanz is not an oasis. Banu Kanz is an Arab tribe in 1337, they controlled Aswan, the surrounding oases and the dry bed of the wadi Allaqi river.

As for oases, it is enough to add one oasis, i.e. Kurkur, because it is the largest oasis.
Aswan should also have a Nubian population and most of the inhabitants should be Shiites.
That Wikipedia page mentions that they controlled Makuria in 1337, but it looks like they were kicked out of Aswan by the Mamluks and the region was marginalized during their time in the Makuria throne, unless I missed something?
 
That Wikipedia page mentions that they controlled Makuria in 1337, but it looks like they were kicked out of Aswan by the Mamluks and the region was marginalized during their time in the Makuria throne, unless I missed something?
It seems that the Banu Kanz ruling family needed to have a foothold in the north as security in the event of losing power over the makuria.

Quote from the Catalan Wikipedia:

The various military expeditions that left Aswan in these years encouraged the local economy a little. But when the Banu l-Kanz through clever marriage connections, became sultans of Nubia, they were not very favorable to the Mamluks. It seems that the Banu l-Kanz then ruled the city of Aswan since no Mamluk governors are mentioned there (and if the Banu l-Kanz were there they exercised a de facto hegemony). The city followed its decline and the capital and activity remained in Kuş.

In 1365/1366 the Kayaite tribes of Upper Egypt or Said, including the Banu l-Kanz , revolted and the southern routes to Aydhab could not be used; then the Mamluk government restored the position of governor of Aswan or Said (1366) and stripped the Banu l-Kanz of their fiefdom. The war between Mamluks and the so-called Kenuz (the Kanz) was bloody; the first Mamluk governor committed some unnecessary cruelties and Aswan was occupied by his soldiers and plundered. In 1385 the Banu l-Kanz or Kenuz attacked Aswan and put the Mamluk governor to flight; in 1396 it was once again conquered and plundered by the Mamluks; the last governor of Aswan was appointed in 1399 and then the serious crisis of the Mamluk state with a plague and military and political conflicts, finally left Aswan in the hands of the Banu l-Kanz.
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1317 – The Banu Kanz come to dominate the Christian kingdom of Makuria , more through marriage pacts than conquest. Until this year, Makuria had been ruled by the Karambas. As the Karambas of Makuria had delayed paying tribute to the Mamluks of Egypt , they provoked the latter to organize an expedition against the kingdom, where they placed Bershambo or Sanbu on the throne in the city of Dukkula. This protégé of the Mamluks converted to Islam and renamed himself Saif al-Din Abdallah in 1318, and converted the local cathedral into a mosque .