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It's so jover
 
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The main selling point (and the main problem) of PDX 3d art is that it is random. You can always generate new 3d "character" when you need one - and 2d art have to be drawn by hand.
Yes, you're right. You can always generate new 3d "character" when you need one.

But, the 3D character is so bad, that doesnt matter how new the character is from the random generate.
It will only create extremely ugly characters.
 
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Yes, you're right. You can always generate new 3d "character" when you need one.

But, the 3D character is so bad, that doesnt matter how new the character is from the random generate.
It will only create extremely ugly characters.

For me and for You - yes, but apparently a lot of people like it. Also, they may be good for youtubers.
 
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I know I'll probably get a lot of respectfully disagrees for this but I think the 3D models for CK3 are done super well and the models in Vic3 get too much hate. Also I like the more minimalist UI of the newer games. If they brought the 3D system of Vic3 to Project Caeser and just made them a bit higher poly count or just more polished in general I would be quite happy.
I could forgive your view of the 3D models- that’s just aesthetic preference, even if it’s not one that I share.
But the UI? The UI in both, especially Vic3, is a crime against humanity. It’s a tragedy on par with the burning of the library of Alexandria. The UI is the primary reason I stopped playing Vic3, precisely because it raises my blood pressure to the territory I may have a stroke. If the PC UI is closer to Vic3 than, say, to EU4, it will be the worst decision in the design process
 
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Yes, you're right. You can always generate new 3d "character" when you need one.

But, the 3D character is so bad, that doesnt matter how new the character is from the random generate.
It will only create extremely ugly characters.
Look at the fan base 10 years ago and look and what they have now. They critiqued hoi3 because it had not enough sprites or 3d animations or eu3 because it was not complex enough to have 30 dlc with that nice building cosmetic pack lol
 
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For me and for You - yes, but apparently a lot of people like it. Also, they may be good for youtubers.
How about if Paradox does a survey with the 3D characters to see if the majority likes them or not.

I think Paradox decided on the 3D characters for these two reasons.

1. It's cheaper. They already have the generator. And they don't need to hire an artist.
2. They can sell overpriced DLCs on the grounds that it costs more than 2D.
(Like outfits or the DLC like Crusader Kings III: Tours & Tournaments or Royal Court)
 
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How about if Paradox does a survey with the 3D characters to really see if the majority likes them.

I think Paradox decided on the 3D characters for these two reasons.

1. It's cheaper. They already have the generator. And they don't need to hire an artist.
2. They can sell overpriced DLCs on the grounds that it costs more than 2D.
(Like outfits or the DLC like Crusader Kings III: Tours & Tournaments or Royal Court)
It can't be cheaper than 2d or a way basic 3d modeling portraits. The only reason has to be a new generation of fan base who will clap and drool in front of their 3d ruler and be willing to spend 20 bucks on a dlc for a fancy crown or exotic custom of the xv century
 
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i mean... if it is positive for immersion for some, on the opposite site it totally can destroy your interesst in the game if you really hate it, and it waves into your face every now and then. You eat with your eyes.
Not liking it and being disappointed yes, being sceptic of the game for this sole reason is what I find weird
 
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It can't be cheaper than 2d or a way basic 3d modeling portraits. The only reason has to be a new generation of fan base who will clap and drool in front of their 3d ruler and be willing to spend 20 bucks on a dlc for a fancy crown or exotic custom of the xv century

You can have million portraits with the generator, how much would it cost to hire artists?
 
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Speaking for myself, I love CK3's 3D portraits. I think they add a lot to the game. However, I'm totally indifferent to the portraits in V3 and would not care at all if they were totally removed.

Without playing, it's hard to know how I'll feel about PC's 3D portraits ahead of time. At first thought though it's probably going to lean more towards V3. In EU4 (and V3) I don't care at all who my ruler is and I don't see that changing much in PC so I can't see myself caring what they look like very much
 
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Do the reactions to this message of the TT gives us hope?
If you see Joahn's replies, saying "you can mod it," it means that this is their idea of the upcoming game, and if you don't like it, you can mod it. If a player has to rely exclusively on mods to have the changes that the community wants, are you really listening to the fanbase feedback as you said you would as a developer? Besides Victoria 3, his project on Imperator was trashed by the fanbase and patched by modders. Just recently, they implemented with patches what the mods had improved.
 
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I really like the Imperator Rome character images, and even the CKIII are good. But the Victoria III characters are horrible IMO. I mean a 3yo with pattern baldness?
 
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Heres to hoping the game doesn't launch with these bugs
 
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If you see Joahn's replies, saying "you can mod it," it means that this is their idea of the upcoming game, and if you don't like it, you can mod it. If a player has to rely exclusively on mods to have the changes that the community wants, are you really listening to the fanbase feedback as you said you would as a developer? Besides Victoria 3, his project on Imperator was trashed by the fanbase and patched by modders. Just recently, they implemented with patches what the mods had improved.
I get your point, although I think it is a bit harsh on him right now taking into account that they have already shown that they are implementing quite interesting, and I would say quite important mechanic's feedback given by the majority's approval of the community.

For this case of the 3D characters even if end being a thing, I hope they are not in any way as prominent as in V3 or CK3, and take such a small space in any UI of the game, with all my respect for the responsible who made them, it's just my humble opinion at the end.
 
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