Have you made any suppositions on the culture map? Because native Brasil is one of the few regions that I have almost no idea about except that the bigguest divisions were between the Tupian and the Gé linguistic groups-
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Tá ficando muito massa! Fico surpreso que não vá exceder 600 localizações, mas acho que é de bom tamanho.
Estou curioso para ver como essa proposta vai se comparar com o mapa do BR do Tinto Maps.
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This map recently came to my attention and I figured I should share it here since a bit of Brazil is visible and I saw mention of the Exploration Tinto Talks but not this map specifically.
For those of you more familiar with Brazil, what do you think of those Areas?
There also doesn't appear to be any Settled Countries in this part of Brazil. Assuming that there may not be major changes to this until we get the Tinto Maps for this area, I'll obviously argue for the Marajoara chiefdoms and Amazon River chiefdoms to be Settled Countries.
For those of you more familiar with Brazil, what do you think of those Areas?
There also doesn't appear to be any Settled Countries in this part of Brazil. Assuming that there may not be major changes to this until we get the Tinto Maps for this area, I'll obviously argue for the Marajoara chiefdoms and Amazon River chiefdoms to be Settled Countries.
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This video by Vox. We're beginning to uncover the complexity of the Amazonian peoples but we will never know who or what they were. We just know someone built complex cities and a trade network and how humans shaped the rainforest.
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No. It's to hard due to the migration that was happing during the game start data.
Thanks.
The regios of the map are bad. They are named after rivers, but they don't even follow their river basins.
This makes drawing the Amazon a challenge in itself. Honestly, I don't know if I'll do it, none of my three attempts were pleasant, maybe I'll just complete the south. (It would require more effort than I'm willing to offer (and that I have the ability to do) in something that I don't even know if it will become concrete).
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I have to say, I do not agree with the lower density in the Recife-Olinda and Salvador areas. To begin with, Recife and Olinda should be two separate locations, the sister cities were at the top of the population ranking for a good chunk of the colonial period, and both were still on the top 5 for most of EU5's time frame.
At the end of the time frame, Recife and Salvador were in the top 3 with quite the wide margin to the rest, only behind to Rio de Janeiro.
To add to these points, Salvador was the Brazilian capital for most of the colonial period (up to 1763) and Recife was the capital of Dutch Brazil.
Let's not be fooled by current population density and give suggestions for an anachronistic map please, the northeast was the economic and populational center of the country for a very long period.
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I agree that the density of the SP-Rio axis should be the same in the Recife and Salvador regions, but it is not so simple to implement it, since it seems that the population was concentrated in the two locations, instead of being distributed throughout the surrounding areas. In any case, I will study the issue.
When I said low density, I always referred to the interior "sertão" and not the coast.
First of all, awesome work!!
My two cents here from a first look of the map, wouldn't it make sense (at least for gameplay sake) to split the Paranaguá location between Paranaguá and Guaratuba? Mostly to improve the relevance of the Serra do Mar in that region -- as you'd actually be able to cut direct movement between Paranaguá and São José dos Pinhais --, as well as having the option of 2 different natural harbors -- even if Guaratuba was never really used as such, given the proximity of the much better Paranaguá bay, it still does seem to lend itself to such.
Thanks.
I have this in mind, but I believe that Guaratuba would be a very small location, anyway I will try to add it (Although now I have a new challenge, getting used to Inkscape in contrast with Ilustartor)
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I already have a lot of content, ready to post in the Tinto Maps about South America.
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I've already discovered the basics of Inkscape (which was more work than waiting, mainly because it makes files with 0% opacity disappear) and I'll probably have Rio Grande do Sul ready before Friday.
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Some aditions that was requested, Recife and Guaratuba, as well I've add São Caetano.
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Well, let's look the locations names. This table will be updated.
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| Name Nowdays (PT) | Old Full Name (PT) | Other Old Name (PT) | Tupi Name (Em PT) | Tupi Name Observation | Other Observation |
| São Paulo | São Paulo dos Campos de Piratiinga | - | Pirá-tininga | - | - |
| Mogi das Cruzes | Santana de Mogi das Cruzes | - | Mboîa | - | - |
| Santo Amaro | - | - | Yaribá-tyba | Means the river were is the location. | Today a neigborhood. |
| Santa Isabel | - | - | Aru-îá | Means other city in the same location. | - |
| São Roque | - | - | Karumbé'y | Means the river were is the location. | - |
| Atibaia | São João Batista de Atibaia | - | Ty-baia | Most likely conjecture. | - |
| Bragança Paulista | Conceição do Jaguari | - | Îaguara'y | - | Paulista was add to differentiate from the location of the same name in Pará. |
| Santana de Parnaíba | - | - | Paranã-aíba | One of possible etymology. | - |
| Jacareí | Nossa Senhora da Conceição da Paraíba | - | Îakare'y | - | - |
| Taubaté | São Francisco das Chagas de Taubaté | - | Taba-ybaté | Name of ancient village | - |
| Pindamonhangaba | Nossa Senhora do Bonsucesso de Pindamonhangaba | - | Pindá-monhang-aba | - | - |
| Lorena | Nossa Senhora da Piedade | - | Guâ-upa-caré | Name of the lagoon there, by which the natives identified it. In Puri (other native language): Ipacaré | - |
| Cunha | Nossa Senhora da Coneição de Cunha | - | Indaîá | Means the mountain near city. | - |
| Paraibuna | Santo Antônio de Paraibuna | - | Pará-y-b'una | - | - |
| São Sebastião | - | - | Mboîa-su-kanga | Means the river wew is the city. | - |
| São Vicente | - | - | Gu-ai-óg | One of the possible spellings. It refers to the island of São Vicente, named as such by the natives. | - |
| Itanhaém | Nossa Senhora da Conceição de Itanhaém | - | Itá-nha'ẽ | - | - |
| Cananéia | São João Batista de Cananéia | - | Mara-tayama | First name registered for the location. Supposedly, it references a native leader. | - |
| Eldorado | Nossa Senhora da Guia de Xiririca | Xiririca | Xiri'rika | - | It was known as Xiririca until its name was changed to Eldorado, in reference to the legend, ignore the modern name. |
| Sorocaba | Nossa Senhora da Ponte de Sorocaba | - | Sorok-aba | - | - |
| Capão Bonito | Nossa Senhora da Conceição do Paranapanema | Capão Bonito do Paranapanema | Paraná-panema | - | - |
| Apiaí | Santo Antônio das Minas de Apiaí | - | Apya'y | - | - |
| Itapeva | Itapeva da Faxina | Faxina | Itá-peba | - | - |
| Itapetininga | Nossa Senhora dos Prazeres de Itapetininga | - | Itá-peba-tininga | There is no exact consensus on this. | - |
| Itaporanga (Rio Verde at map) | São João Bastita do Rio Verde | Itaporanga | Itá-porang-a | - | - |
| Botucatu | - | - | Ybytyra-katu | - | - |
| São Pedro do Turvo | São Pedro de Campos Novos do Turvo | - | - | - | - |
| Lençois Paulista | - | - | Ubá-tetama | This name was given later, for a limited period of time. | Paulista was add to differentiate from the location of the same name in Bahia. |
| Bauru | Espírito Santo da Fortaleza | - | Mbai-yurú | I was unable to confirm the etymology. | - |
| Araraquara | São Bento de Araraquara | - | Arara-kûara | - | - |
| Tanabi | - | - | Tanambi | - | - |
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Can you post your entire Brasil proposal map in this thread?
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Hi. Just wanted to let you know that we had been reading this thread prior to today's Tinto Maps. As the hot topic is the extension of Mata Atlàntica, these have been my words about it:
This means that its rework will be as good as the feedback we receive, so we kindly ask and encourage you to help us portray more adequately the region by posting your feedback and proposals, with sources and maps if possible, in the Tinto Maps thread (although it's perfectly fine if you discuss it first, in order to share knowledge and refine your proposal, OFC!).
This means that its rework will be as good as the feedback we receive, so we kindly ask and encourage you to help us portray more adequately the region by posting your feedback and proposals, with sources and maps if possible, in the Tinto Maps thread (although it's perfectly fine if you discuss it first, in order to share knowledge and refine your proposal, OFC!).
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Sorry @Pavia I hadn't seen your message. If you have any objections about the suggestions, feel free to ask, I will respond if I can. I just can't guarantee maps, as I'll be away at the end of the year.Olá. Só queria que você soubesse que estávamos lendo este tópico antes do Tinto Maps de hoje. Como o tópico quente é a extensão da Mata Atlàntica, estas foram minhas palavras sobre isso:
Isso significa que sua reformulação será tão boa quanto o feedback que recebermos, então pedimos e encorajamos você a nos ajudar a retratar a região de forma mais adequada, publicando seu feedback e propostas, com fontes e mapas, se possível, no tópico Tinto Maps (embora seja perfeitamente aceitável que você discuta isso primeiro, para compartilhar conhecimento e refinar sua proposta, OFC!).