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Semi-Lobster said:
I believe you are implying you are a citizen of Germany. First of, the Finnish Swastika has little to nothing to do with the German one. Secondly, you must understand that the counter clockwise swastika is originally a Hindu/Buddhist symbol, it's a symbol of good luck and peace and can be found in Buddhist monasteries all around Asia. The Nazis are the one that warped it into a symbol of hatred and intolerance. I should know! I'm Buddhist! :D
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The thing is, the Finnish roundel is a virtual replica of the Nazi swastika, except that the Finn's had theirs coloured light blue. I don't think that it is a matter about separate meanings of the cross, but rather the main meaning. I myself have never been comfortable with the Swastika, in any form (due to its main popular culture meaning). There is an alternate that can be used for Finland, which is a circular roundel with white, light blue, white circles. Multiple downloads would probably be the best solution, with the main one being the most unoffensive.
 
For anything to be included in C.O.R.E. please use the type of valid alternative gfx McNaughton mentioned. Any "historical insignia" version can be made separately available for download at for example Road to War.

Any further discussion please use private messaging or email, it's not on topic for this thread or the C.O.R.E. forum in general.
 
McNaughton said:
The thing is, the Finnish roundel is a virtual replica of the Nazi swastika, except that the Finn's had theirs coloured light blue. I don't think that it is a matter about separate meanings of the cross, but rather the main meaning. I myself have never been comfortable with the Swastika, in any form (due to its main popular culture meaning). There is an alternate that can be used for Finland, which is a circular roundel with white, light blue, white circles. Multiple downloads would probably be the best solution, with the main one being the most unoffensive.
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I guess, although I dislike my relgions symbol being used by people who would misuse it. Well I'm pretty sure the roundel was used by the Finns during WWII so I guess it's fine. Of course to check with any source of laws regardless of personal point of views, you should consult one of the many Finns on the forum!
 
It's not possible to do that. Because the counter design file is the same for every country, and the changes come from changing the colour palette applied, to create the pixel arrangements to represent the flags and roundels you need a large amount of palette positions. In McNaughton's design, 14x9 indexes for the flag, 10x10 for the roundel and some extra ones are required to colour other parts of the counter. Totalling some 230 indexes needed. A palette only has 256 indexes while a jack design would probably require over 100 more.
 
It is too bad that we are limited to 256, but we can get some very good looking counters. I have been fiddling with many different designs, and additions, to try and make the counters suit many different preferences. It is very easy, as the individual paletts remain the same, with the only thing changing is the Counter templates.
 
I'll offer my help with the palettes again, in case you haven't finished them. Just assign me some countries and tell me what bg colour to use.
 
Gwalcmai, here is the template. If you could do anything with Central-South America, that would help a lot. It doesn't really matter about the background colours, as these could be tweaked later if they don't match with CORE nation colours or something like that.

hoi_counter_strip.bmp


http://members.rogers.com/eprichard1704/hoi_counter_strip.zip

Here are the counters that I have completed/am working on so far (I might have missed a few), so you can use these as examples.

http://members.rogers.com/eprichard1704/Counters.zip
 
Ok, will do something about South America. You had already posted the template, though, I just hadn't noticed when I posted the first time. So, I had done some as a test. Portugal, Brasil, Argentina, Bolivia and Colombia, as a matter of fact. :) I notice none of those are in the zip you posted. I also have Cuba, Costa Rica and Republica Dominicana half done.

The problem with tweaking the colours later is the corners of the roundels. It's not a massively larger amount of work, but it's still a bit of a pain... I'll probably go with Phil's outer colours (or thereabouts).
 
Actually, the roundels as a whole are fairly easy to do, as they are very repetative. The flags are the main bane of my existence, as they are large and in most cases not symmetrical! I really appreciate your help!
 
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Suggestion: if you made the flag area on the counters 15x9 instead of 14x9 it would be much easier to represent flags like France, Italy, and Belgium that are divided into thirds vertically (since 15/3 comes out to a nice even 5, the same way 9/3 comes out to 3). You'd also still be well below the palette limit of 256.

Again, only a suggestion. At this point I expect it would be quite a large bit of work to go back and redo everything just to add a single column of pixels...
 
It's always hard to decide on that. There are a lot of flags that benefit from a size you can divide by 3. OTOH, other flags require a division by 2. :) Also, there are flags with 2:1 dimension, but others have 3:2, so some will look too long and others look too short. (I think the Belgium flag is 9:7, or something like that)
 
It's always hard to decide on that. There are a lot of flags that benefit from a size you can divide by 3. OTOH, other flags require a division by 2. Also, there are flags with 2:1 dimension, but others have 3:2, so some will look too long and others look too short. (I think the Belgium flag is 9:7, or something like that)
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Yeah, I understand. It was just something I noticed while I was playing around with flag graphics, so I thought I'd mention it.

BTW, here's some info that might be useful: if I remember correctly, Norway didn't use a roundel at the time of WW2 - at least not a roundel in the technical sense. If you think about it, pretty much every reasonable combination of concentric red, white, and blue circles had already been used up, so instead they painted the rudder red with a vertical blue stripe bordered in white, like a single arm of the cross on the Norwegian flag. They also put a similar mark across the wing, (a big red stripe with a blue line bordred in white) running parallel to the length of the fuselage (front to back). For the roundel on the counter, you could probably just make a red square with a vertical blue line bordered in white.

Hope that's helpful.
 
McNaughton or Gwalcmai - could I get a counterstrip that has beveled edges for v7 if you aren't done this yet? IOW, could you take the one we'll be using (it's in Integration at the top) and put those images over the beveled counters? If it's too much of a hassle, please let me know.

Quite a lot of new mapcolors in the latest build as well as a few counter color reworks. Let me know what you think. Italy, China, England, etc.
 
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