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id = 492005
country = JAP
name = "Japan achieves it's strategic goals against the USSR"
desc = "Japanese forces ultimately defeated the Soviet army and were available for further strategic campaigns."
action_a = {
name = "Expand into the Pacific"
country = JAP
name = "Japan achieves it's strategic goals against the USSR"
desc = "Japanese forces ultimately defeated the Soviet army and were available for further strategic campaigns."
action_a = {
name = "Expand into the Pacific"
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Originally posted by jkkelley
Have you ever heard the expression 'herding cats?'
No, dude! What does that mean? And where are you from?
-PK
I am going to start grouping the events by relevance into one post so as to avoid a thousand postings
id = 492006 & 492007
country = JAP
name = "Japan's Choice: North or South?"
desc = "Victorious Imperial Japan sought direction for expansion after it's victory over the USSR. Great resources were to be found in the USSR's Siberia, but even greater resources lie in the colonial areas of southeast Asia and the Pacific region."
id = 492007 same desc as 492006 above
action_a = {
name = "Strike against the USSR; Japan joins the Axis"
action_b = {
name = "Japan takes no action at this time"
id = 492006 & 492007
country = JAP
name = "Japan's Choice: North or South?"
desc = "Victorious Imperial Japan sought direction for expansion after it's victory over the USSR. Great resources were to be found in the USSR's Siberia, but even greater resources lie in the colonial areas of southeast Asia and the Pacific region."
id = 492007 same desc as 492006 above
action_a = {
name = "Strike against the USSR; Japan joins the Axis"
action_b = {
name = "Japan takes no action at this time"
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Panay Incident
id = 492008
country = JAP
desc = "As Japanese forces advanced on Nanjing, diplomats from Western countries were evacuated. Several U.S. diplomatic staff were on the evacuating gunboat 'Panay' just offshore when it was attacked and destroyed by Japanese aircraft. The Japanese foreign minister immediately apologized to the U.S. ambassador and responsible Japanese officers were brought to Japanese justice."
action_a = {
name = "Apologize to the U.S. ambassador and enforce justice"
action_b = {
name = "Notify the USA that it's forces are no longer welcome in Asia"
id = 322000
country = USA same description as above
action_a = {
name = "The American public understands the full scope of the tragedy"
id = 322001
country = USA same description as above
action_a = {
name = "The American people will not accept such terrible injustice"
id = 492008
country = JAP
desc = "As Japanese forces advanced on Nanjing, diplomats from Western countries were evacuated. Several U.S. diplomatic staff were on the evacuating gunboat 'Panay' just offshore when it was attacked and destroyed by Japanese aircraft. The Japanese foreign minister immediately apologized to the U.S. ambassador and responsible Japanese officers were brought to Japanese justice."
action_a = {
name = "Apologize to the U.S. ambassador and enforce justice"
action_b = {
name = "Notify the USA that it's forces are no longer welcome in Asia"
id = 322000
country = USA same description as above
action_a = {
name = "The American public understands the full scope of the tragedy"
id = 322001
country = USA same description as above
action_a = {
name = "The American people will not accept such terrible injustice"
ok, I don't mean to be rewriting all these events if this is too much. Just let me know.
-PK
-PK
yes... even France has the posibility to declare war alone against Germany (too difficult.. but it could happen...)
It came about most often in religious circles, where getting neo-pagans to all go in the same direction was described (by the neo-pagans themselves) as being like 'herding cats'.
Interestingly, in terms of 3R boardgame play and age (and seemingly, talents), we're so similar it's eerie. I am from Kansas, but I live in the Tri-Cities of Washington.
jkk
I think I'll start with the butt rather than the head, and work on Tuva.txt:
220001, 522000: just get rid of the periods in the option text. Maybe word 'put to a permanent end' as just 'finally eliminated'.
Now, Post_war.txt:
272071: It's either 'Kobenhavn' or 'Copenhagen' in English, but it can't be 'Kopenhagen', with apologies and understanding to Copper.
272076, 272077, 222027, 272078, 322037: Requisitions, confiscation of private property, and brutal enforcement of the new Soviet order was were common. Public opinion in all democratic countries was severely shocked by the actions of the Soviets. The Soviet actions shocked the peoples of all democratic countries.
And, of course, periods in the option text.
jkk
220001, 522000: just get rid of the periods in the option text. Maybe word 'put to a permanent end' as just 'finally eliminated'.
Now, Post_war.txt:
272071: It's either 'Kobenhavn' or 'Copenhagen' in English, but it can't be 'Kopenhagen', with apologies and understanding to Copper.
272076, 272077, 222027, 272078, 322037: Requisitions, confiscation of private property, and brutal enforcement of the new Soviet order was were common. Public opinion in all democratic countries was severely shocked by the actions of the Soviets. The Soviet actions shocked the peoples of all democratic countries.
And, of course, periods in the option text.
jkk
JKK,
You might find it a pain to just color-highlight a letter here and there. I just got to the point where I'd correct the mistake and pretty much color-highlight a sentence or more of text, especially if I had changed it. Seemed not as time-consuming. Just throwing it out there.
Yeah, I still think about all those times playing 3R as a kid, wanting all the diplomatic options that exist in HoI and WiF and other games and making my own rules, including a post-WW2 showdown between the Allies and Soviets. Somehow I don't think I'm the only one who did or wanted that?!
Did you ever play NATO?
-PK
You might find it a pain to just color-highlight a letter here and there. I just got to the point where I'd correct the mistake and pretty much color-highlight a sentence or more of text, especially if I had changed it. Seemed not as time-consuming. Just throwing it out there.
Yeah, I still think about all those times playing 3R as a kid, wanting all the diplomatic options that exist in HoI and WiF and other games and making my own rules, including a post-WW2 showdown between the Allies and Soviets. Somehow I don't think I'm the only one who did or wanted that?!
Did you ever play NATO?
-PK
Panay Incident
Hmmmmm, some recommendations:
1) In the trigger Japan and China should be at war and Japan should have control of Shanhai.
2) In the description it goes so far as to commit the Japanese to apologizing. I would put that decision down into choice A & B. Also, I would probably add some background that the western river patrols dated from the early 20th century as a consequence of the Boxer Rebellion (See Max Boot, The Savage Wars of Peace).
3) Jap Choice A: An apology would cause Japan to lose face and anger the military factions. At least some diplomatic influence should be lost and perhaps a dissent point hit would be reasonable.
4) Jap Choice B: No dissent, but this is a slap in the face to the Western Powers and especially the USA. A bigger diplomatic influence hit is appropriate here.
5) On the USA side, Choice A (historical) would give a mild War Entry bump. This took place at almost the same time as the Nanking Massacre so the two events are confounded in the historical US reaction. I would recommend going back and knocking down the Massacre reaction by a point if this would have a two point impact. Historically, the western governments also withdrew their patrols from Yangtze and this apology gave them the diplomatic room to climb down and forestall additional incidents.
I would recommend including a voluntary withdrawel of the patrols as part of the event reaction.
If the Japanese took choice B, then I would expect the US to go ape with a bigger war entry bump. The US would have its own set of reactions.
Choice B-A: Recall the US ambassador. Keep patrols in place, expend a diplomatic influence point, possibility of second event after Nanking falls to Japan.
Choice B-B: Same as A, plus amend the Neutrality Act to provide US aid to China. Give China aid. (Add Chinese event to accept aid).
Choice B-C: Agree to Japanese demands, US forces withdraw, US dissent +1 in anger at administration
Hmmmmm, some recommendations:
1) In the trigger Japan and China should be at war and Japan should have control of Shanhai.
2) In the description it goes so far as to commit the Japanese to apologizing. I would put that decision down into choice A & B. Also, I would probably add some background that the western river patrols dated from the early 20th century as a consequence of the Boxer Rebellion (See Max Boot, The Savage Wars of Peace).
3) Jap Choice A: An apology would cause Japan to lose face and anger the military factions. At least some diplomatic influence should be lost and perhaps a dissent point hit would be reasonable.
4) Jap Choice B: No dissent, but this is a slap in the face to the Western Powers and especially the USA. A bigger diplomatic influence hit is appropriate here.
5) On the USA side, Choice A (historical) would give a mild War Entry bump. This took place at almost the same time as the Nanking Massacre so the two events are confounded in the historical US reaction. I would recommend going back and knocking down the Massacre reaction by a point if this would have a two point impact. Historically, the western governments also withdrew their patrols from Yangtze and this apology gave them the diplomatic room to climb down and forestall additional incidents.
I would recommend including a voluntary withdrawel of the patrols as part of the event reaction.
If the Japanese took choice B, then I would expect the US to go ape with a bigger war entry bump. The US would have its own set of reactions.
Choice B-A: Recall the US ambassador. Keep patrols in place, expend a diplomatic influence point, possibility of second event after Nanking falls to Japan.
Choice B-B: Same as A, plus amend the Neutrality Act to provide US aid to China. Give China aid. (Add Chinese event to accept aid).
Choice B-C: Agree to Japanese demands, US forces withdraw, US dissent +1 in anger at administration
Re: Panay Incident
Good points. I'm going to cross-post this into the Far East thread for consideration (as it's not a new event but rather modding my old code).
Good points. I'm going to cross-post this into the Far East thread for consideration (as it's not a new event but rather modding my old code).
Engineer, why don't you finish the Panay incident events after Steel and crew rework the events? I am going to go on with the rest of Nomohan.
-PK
-PK
Kiri Project
ok, I just got JJ's PM, but I'll post this anyways since I had already worked it up and didn't want to lose it.
id = 492009
country = JAP
following desc also used event 522001 below:
desc = "The Chinese 'incident' eventually went too far for Japanese limits. Further advances against the Nationalists would mean to stretch the Japanese army beyond its limits. Therefore, Japan sought peace with Chiang Kai-Shek, thereby allowing a new focus on more important theaters of operation. China would have most of its provinces returned to its control, but would become a puppet of Japan."
action_a = {
name = "Japan attempts to negotiate a peaceful resolution with China"
action_b = {
name = "Japan presses forward against China"
id = 522001
country = CHI
action_a = {
name = "Accept Japan's overtures of peace"
action_b = {
name = "China must repel the Japanese from its soil"
id = 492010
country = JAP
desc = "Japan sought peace with Chiang Kai-Shek to allow for a new focus on more important theaters of operation. When the Nationalists rejected the Japanese peace offer, Japan chose to continue the battle to the end and force the creation of a Chinese puppet state."
id = 492011
country = JAP
following desc is also used for event 522002 below:
desc = "The peace settlement between Japan and China returned most of the occupied provinces to the control of Nationalist China. However, China would now become a puppet state of Japan. After long negotiations, the Nationalist Chinese agreed to recognise Japan as their overlords in return for regaining most of their lost territory."
action_a = {
name = "Japan withdraws its army as the Nationalists agree to Japan's terms of peace"
id = 522002
country = CHI
action_a = {
name = "China will accept Japan's terms of peace... for the moment"
id = 952000
country = CHC
desc = "When Japan forged a peace agreement with China, the Nationalists regained most of their territory but also became a puppet state under Japanese control. Mao Tse Tung, the leader of Communist China remarked, 'The Chinese people will forever be slaves to the Japanese overlords unless they join the People's Liberation Army and take their fate back into their own hands!'"
action_a = {
name = "Communist China bows to no enemy"
ok, I just got JJ's PM, but I'll post this anyways since I had already worked it up and didn't want to lose it.
id = 492009
country = JAP
following desc also used event 522001 below:
desc = "The Chinese 'incident' eventually went too far for Japanese limits. Further advances against the Nationalists would mean to stretch the Japanese army beyond its limits. Therefore, Japan sought peace with Chiang Kai-Shek, thereby allowing a new focus on more important theaters of operation. China would have most of its provinces returned to its control, but would become a puppet of Japan."
action_a = {
name = "Japan attempts to negotiate a peaceful resolution with China"
action_b = {
name = "Japan presses forward against China"
id = 522001
country = CHI
action_a = {
name = "Accept Japan's overtures of peace"
action_b = {
name = "China must repel the Japanese from its soil"
id = 492010
country = JAP
desc = "Japan sought peace with Chiang Kai-Shek to allow for a new focus on more important theaters of operation. When the Nationalists rejected the Japanese peace offer, Japan chose to continue the battle to the end and force the creation of a Chinese puppet state."
id = 492011
country = JAP
following desc is also used for event 522002 below:
desc = "The peace settlement between Japan and China returned most of the occupied provinces to the control of Nationalist China. However, China would now become a puppet state of Japan. After long negotiations, the Nationalist Chinese agreed to recognise Japan as their overlords in return for regaining most of their lost territory."
action_a = {
name = "Japan withdraws its army as the Nationalists agree to Japan's terms of peace"
id = 522002
country = CHI
action_a = {
name = "China will accept Japan's terms of peace... for the moment"
id = 952000
country = CHC
desc = "When Japan forged a peace agreement with China, the Nationalists regained most of their territory but also became a puppet state under Japanese control. Mao Tse Tung, the leader of Communist China remarked, 'The Chinese people will forever be slaves to the Japanese overlords unless they join the People's Liberation Army and take their fate back into their own hands!'"
action_a = {
name = "Communist China bows to no enemy"
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Phil,
I'll add it in to the file I have here.... why don't you finish off nomonhan in this thread, then pick your next file to do yourself... ja?
JJ
I'll add it in to the file I have here.... why don't you finish off nomonhan in this thread, then pick your next file to do yourself... ja?
JJ