EUIV - Quick Questions / Quick Answers

[President Park Lee Ng]

So I keep seeing people saying "assign only trade centers and estuaries to trade companies", OK

But plenty of states have a lot of provinces, and only 1 out of like 4 provinces are trade centers

Take for example North Sulawesi. Palu is trade center, but it's 1 out of 5 spices provinces. I add Palu to trade company, and the rest of them suffer from high local autonomy

What do? They say don't add everything to trade company because it's more expensive governing them. But I'm losing out on like 90% the production and trade power

 

[grotaclas]

So I keep seeing people saying "assign only trade centers and estuaries to trade companies", OK

But plenty of states have a lot of provinces, and only 1 out of like 4 provinces are trade centers

Take for example North Sulawesi. Palu is trade center, but it's 1 out of 5 spices provinces. I add Palu to trade company, and the rest of them suffer from high local autonomy

What do? They say don't add everything to trade company because it's more expensive governing them. But I'm losing out on like 90% the production and trade power

It depends on the situation. The non-TC provinces which are in the same trade node as a TC get a goods produced bonus based on the provincial trade power share of the TC and the institution of the TC owner. This can allow non-TC provinces in the same state to generate more income than they would generate as TCs, especially if you collect all the trade value after increasing it multiple times by steering to through several nodes(multiple-merchant bonus). As the goods produced bonus scales with the amount of trade power which the TC has, it is actually good if the non-TC provinces have a low trade power. You have to find a good middle ground between adding many provinces to the TC to get a high goods produced bonus and adding few provinces so that more provinces can actually benefit from the bonus. That's where the rule of thumb of adding only centers of trade/estuaries comes from. You also have to take into account that you get a merchant if the TC has at least 51% of the provincial trade power in the node. Getting over that threshold can make it worthwhile to add provinces which are not centers of trade if you can't conquer the centers of trade in the near future.

 

[President Park Lee Ng]

This can allow non-TC provinces in the same state to generate more income than they would generate as TCs,

OOOOOOOOOOOH
I made the mistake of looking at Production. That's the money I get directly, but the province itself is still making money via Trade Value, which I can then collect

Alright I get it

 

[President Park Lee Ng]

So this decision, isn't this "free" general until the start of absolutism?
What's the catch?

 

[grotaclas]

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So this decision, isn't this "free" general until the start of absolutism?
What's the catch?

It isn't free, because it costs 10 nobility loyalty, a nobility privilege slot and it gives 10% nobility influence which could be a bad thing. And you can only use this decision once every 10 years and it shares this cooldown with the other estate actions which give a general or conquistador

 

[President Park Lee Ng]

Well yes I know for a fact a privilege isn't "free", but a 90 tradition general, back when army tradition isn't that high? And without MP cost?

 

[grotaclas]

Well yes I know for a fact a privilege isn't "free", but a 90 tradition general, back when army tradition isn't that high? And without MP cost?

You only get a 90 tradition general if you have at least 70 army tradition already. This general has 20 tradition more than a normal general.

But I don't understand what you are asking. It is a useful privileges, but so are many others. If you compare its MP savings, then it is worse than the privileges which give +1 mil per month, because they give you 120 mil in 10 years, while the general only saves you 50 in 10 years

 

[Opanashc]

So this decision, isn't this "free" general until the start of absolutism?
What's the catch?

Opportunity costs.
Number of estate privileges is limited, thus you potentially sacrificing some other estate privilege. They raise estate influence, which in turn raises the amount of crownland you lose to them when you conquer new territories, reducing buffs you get from high crownland. If an estate gets too powerful, it can trigger a disaster. The general you get might be a total loser even with higher tradition.

 

[President Park Lee Ng]

So I captured Kyoto and my capital was forcibly moved.

I got Settsu, Yamato, and Kyoto all of which I haven't cored. Since it's my capital it's always a state, but I don't have core on them yet and there's no 50% is territory discount

Does this mean the core will be full core when it finished?