Quift said:
Sorry, shouldn't the Kurland CoT be in Riga?Which was one of the major baltic cities during the period.
Ryan said:
The Kurland COT could be in Riga as well. Both the ports were very central to the Russian grain shipments. Maybe there could even be two COTs right next to each other there. It would certainly be more historical than a COT in Denmark or Sweden.
Which one of these two ports was the most deserving of a COT throughout the course of the game?
Quift said:
And you forgot the importance of Swedish High grade Iron and Copper as trade goods. Generally the Baltic trade should be very important even for nations such as Holland and England so some trade values might need to get beefed. (don't know really, only played games as portugal so far.)
Copper and Iron have fairly high trade and production values in EP already. Also the provinces with very high copper and iron production should have higher tax values. IIRC, this is already the case. Let me know if I'm wrong. I believe Sweden gets some nice tax boosts for these types of provinces mid game.
Ryan said:
If a strong Danish economy is a problem early on and IDLF decides to model the Sund Due with tax value, you might consider only boosting the tax of copenhagen partially when the Sund Due fires and then give a larger boost when the Peder Oxe event fires. Peter Oxe tripled the revenues of the Sund Due and the system that he designed was used even after his death.
Sounds good. I'll put this in the next EP version. I've also put in a fix to reduce the frequency of early Danish Annexation. I'll playtest it and see if it works good enough.
Ryan said:
Casper Herman Hausmann 1700-1716
Commander-in-chief of the Norwegian land forces during the Great Northern conflict where he succesfully protected the Norwegian border from Swedish incursions. Demoted to advisor in 1716 for being too defensive.
Peter Bredal 1643-1658
Squadron Captain who resisted Swedish naval squandrons in february (status quo although outnumbered), defeated Swedish sqadrons in april, died assaulting the Swedish-controlled Als-fortress in December.
Johan Olfert Fishcer 1797-endgame
Not-yet-vice-admiral Fischer defended Danish trade convoys against repeated French and English attacks. He also commanded the Danish forces at the battle of Reden (1801) and again against the English assault on Copenhagen (1807).
Vinces Budde 1710-1719 (not the same guy as Jonas Budde)
Lt. General defeated the Swedes at Moss, intercepted a Swedish raiding party in the Trondheim countryside, and resisted the Swedish charge in Trøndelag. Overly defensive. Let parts of the town be razed in order to maintain an optimal battle line.
Werner Nicolai de Seue 1788-1808
Brigade commander who attacked Sweden with his brigade in 1788, defeated a minor Swedish force in 1807 but defeated by the Swedes at Lier and forced to withdraw. Conservative and defensive sound de Seue enjoyed littel political support. Thus, when general major Prince Christian August arrived he dismissed de Seue for retreating and called him a coward.
Bernhard Ditlef von Staffeldt 1803-1816
Brigade commander of the Norwegian "Jaeger"/ Light infantry. Participated in too many battles to count. Amongst them Bohustlan 1788, attacked the English in Germany 1807, Swedes in Sweden 1808, 1814 and more. Military style characterized by swift movement and surprise attacks.
I'll make all these guys into leaders and add them to the next EP version. I'll be guessing at stats though. If you have some proposals for their stats it would be much appreciated.
Ryan said:
...and as for the leaders, there are far worse leaders in the game already than the ones I just described.
Quift I dont know if you're just out to make Sweden as strong as possible and Denmark was weak as possible within the EP and you think that I am pushing for the reversal. This is not the case.
I am, however, interested in making Denmark run better and to add some depth to it in EP. So if I suggest alot of things for Denmark and only few for Sweden it is because I am simply more interested in Denmark.
But you or others could undertake som Sweden research....
As longs potential leaders meet the standards I use i have no problem adding them, even if there winds up being a ton of new leaders in any specific leader file. All those new Danish leaders should be at least 3-3-2-3 or 3-3-3-2. This is better than no name leaders. AIs benefit quite a bit from many additional leaders even if stats these low make only a small difference for us human players.
Ryan said:
Here are some more events from my Danish event file. you are free to use them in any form, IDLF...
event = {
id = 15xxx
random = no
country = DAN
name = "Our German Heritage"
desc = "Throughout early modern times Denmark maintained a uniquely complicated realtionship to its German neighbors. The aristocracy and goverment officials were predominantly German and Denmarks different royal houses all traced their origins to German lands such as Bavaria, Pommerania and Oldenburg. Official Danish documents were issued in German, elementry school was taught in German, and the army commanded its troops in that very same language.
Throughout the period, Denmark ruled various ethnic German territories undisturbed by strife or turmoil, and the Danish King was at times welcomed as a fellow Holy Roman elector within the Empire.
"
date = { day = 1 month = april year = 1419 }
action_a = {
name = "Ok"
command = { type = add_countryculture which = german }}}
Actually I'll just add german culture for Denmark for the start of the GC.
Ryan said:
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event = {
id = 15xxx
trigger = {
owned = { province = 307 data = -1 }
}
random = no
country = DAN
name = "The Expulsion of the German Civil Servants."
desc = "Following the downfall of Struense in 1772 the new ministers to the Danish king acted out against the age-old German influences on Danish culture. The ministers promptly changed the administrative language of Denmark from German to Danish and eventually banned all ethnic Germans from positions of civil service in Denmark."
style = 4
date = { day = 30 month = june year = 1775 }
action_a = {
name = "Let them go"
command = { type = remove_countryculture which = German }
command = { type = provincetax which = -1 value = -3 }
command = { type = provincetax which = -1 value = -3 }
command = { type = provincetax which = -1 value = -2 }
command = { type = provincetax which = -1 value = -2 }
command = { type = provincetax which = -1 value = -1 }
command = { type = provincetax which = -1 value = -1 }
command = { type = domestic which = centralization value = 1 }}
action_b = {
name = "Keep them"
command = { type = stability value = -3 }
command = { type = revoltrisk which = 120 value = 3 }}}
Did Denmark still use lots of germans in their armies after this? Did they still have regions in their country that were ethnically german and taxed as much as Danish parts? Were they as loyal as the danish subjects still?
Ryan said:
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event = {
id = 15920
random = no
country = DAN
name = "The Copenhagen Decree"
desc = "In 1422 Erik VII granted Copenhagen priviledges within his realm. These privileges gained Danish merchants and magistrates and upper hand when trading in Copenhagen. It was decreed that 'guests were not to trade with guests' without the interaction of a local merchant and this upset the Hanseatic traders there. The new law for Copenhagen also decreed that craftsmen were not to serve in any public offices.
"
date = { day = 22 month = february year = 1422 }
action_a = {
name = "Grant priviledges"
command = { type = trade value = 100 }
command = { type = domestic which = aristocracy value = 1 }
command = { type = domestic which = centralization value = -1 }
command = { type = domestic which = mercantilism value = 1 }
command = { type = relation which = POM value = -15 }
command = { type = relation which = SHL value = -15 }
command = { type = relation which = BRE value = -15 }
command = { type = relation which = MEC value = -15 }
command = { type = relation which = SWE value = -10 }
command = { type = relation which = LAT value = -10 }
command = { type = relation which = POL value = -10 }}}
Wouldn't +1 centralization be better than -1?
Ryan said:
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event = {
id = 15919
random = no
country = DAN
name = "Kastellet"
desc = "After the Swedish siege on Copenhagen (1658-1660) the Dutch engineer Henrik Rüse was called in to help rebuild and extend the construction of Copenhagen's fortifications. The result was a classic Citadel-like fortress of Italian design protecting the north front of Copenhagen. This fort was named Kastellet and it played a crucial part in every siege on Copenhagen since.
"
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1792 }
action_a = {
name = "Build it"
command = { type = fortress which = -2 value = 1 }}}
sounds good.
Ryan said:
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event = {
id = 15918
random = no
country = DAN
name = "A Ban on Slavery"
desc = "From 1790 and onwards the Danish minister of finance had been drafting up a law to outlaw slavery. It was signed in 1792 and so Denmark became the first European nation to abolish slavery. However, the West Indian platation economy was not geared to give up slavery so soon and so the law ended up hurting Danish colonial trade.
"
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1792 }
action_a = {
name = "Outlaw Slavery"
command = { type = provincetax which = -3 value = -1 }
command = { type = provincetax which = -3 value = -1 }
command = { type = provincetax which = -3 value = -1 }
command = { type = domestic which = serfdom value = -2 }
command = { type = trade value = -250 }
command = { type = infra value = -250 }}}
I think the negative tax hits would cause odd results. Perhaps a much larger trade hit would be better? Was this really a big deal for Denmark's economy?
Ryan said:
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event = {
id = 15xxx
random = no
country = DAN
name = "Lex Regia"
desc = "'The King's Law' (Kongeloven - Lex Regia) formed the constitutional background for absolute monarchy and is one of the earliest written European constitutional documents. It was crafted by the hand of the young Griffenfeld. The passing of Law in 1665 additionally enforced the sovereignty of the King, and with the introduction of the absolute monarchy the power of the nobility was completely destroyed and old privileges were withdrawn. The nobility had to pay taxes and lost with the introduction of the Danish Act of Succession, their right to chose the country's king.
"
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1665 }
action_a = {
name = "Do it"
command = { type = stability value = -1 }
command = { type = provincetax which = -2 value = 2 }
command = { type = provincetax which = 309 value = 3 }
command = { type = domestic which = ARISTOCRACY value = -1 }
command = { type = domestic which = CENTRALIZATION value = 1 }}}
I think a larger positive centralization and a larger negative aristocracy would be better. Centralization affects census tax.
Ryan said:
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event = {
id = 159153
random = no
country = DAN
name = "Tranquebar"
desc = "The Danish colonies in India were founded by the Danish East India Company, which was active from the 17th to the 19th centuries. The Danish colony's capital was Fort Dansborg at Tranquebar, established in 1620, on the Coromandel coast. As Denmark established more and more holdings in India Tranquebar eventually became the capital of Danish India.
"
date = { day = 1 month = march year = 1620 }
action_a = {
name = "We will exploit this"
command = { type = add_countryculture which = dravidian }}}
Do you think that they were more powerful than the Rajah of Tranquebar? Was he more of a puppet after their arrival?
Ryan said:
event = {
id = 159154
random = no
country = DAN
name = "Danish India"
desc = "From 1675 and onwards the Danish East India Company aquired the district jurisdiction over several Bengali towns in the Orissa region (Berhampur, Howrah, and Odisa). During the first ten to fifteen years of their settlement, the Danish merchants faced various problems but they soon started making significant progress in trade and commerce and eventually, Danish laws were promulgated there.
"
date = { day = 1 month = march year = 1675 }
action_a = {
name = "We will exploit this"
command = { type = add_countryculture which = bengali }}}
Those provinces wind up going to the British, who have a stronger claim to ownership than the Danes.
Ryan said:
Some playtest observations:
- France colonizes Canada aggressively (good to see!) but does not loose the bulk of it in the seven years war and as such England typically ends up being the second largest presence in America.
I'm aware of this. It hasn't been modeled yet. No one has done the work on it yet.
Ryan said:
- With the aggressive colonization the USA is going to be buying cities, not trading posts in 1803 when they take over the French territories. When you see how other countries are granted cultures, why not grant the USA French culture?
It's not a bad idea. I think I'll add it.
Ryan said:
- With the takeover of 1803 the USA also bought the French claims on the viceroyalty of New Spain (Texas, New Mexico, Arizona). - Give them out as cores?
Didn't they remain Spanish/Mexican till past 1820?
Ryan said:
- Etnicity of Lao Cai should be Vietnamese, not Thai. Religion could be eigther buddhist or confucian depending on the power balance of the region.
- Etnicity of Mekong, Sarakham, and Laos should be Lao, not Thai.
IC. I can change this NP. But only China has Confucian and it's a little crippling too.
Ryan said:
it is however a problem that sweden rarely takes gotland, skåne and jamtlandet. making sweden take these provinces without also making sweden take the rest of norway is very hard to model, and in every other eu2 mod you usually see a blue norway by the late 1600s.
If you guys give me some dates for when these provinces change hands(it can include multiple change of hands too) I can make the AIs more efficient at pulling it off.
Iron_Skull said:
Has anyone done some hands off test games to see the power balance between Denmark and Sweden? Who usually ends up on top? When? Etc. We should all probably run some game tests to see wether there is a power balance issue or not, one or two games among each of us is hardly conclusive proof of anything wrong.
It's a valid problem with the mod at present. I suspect it's really just that Denmark is more economically powerful than Sweden early on and it's monarchs' DIP ratings are high enough for the AI to often annex Sweden before they usually break vassalage.
What's going on?
