Europa Universalis IV: DLC Render Pictures Archive

[Blobhemian]

I'm flapping about looking for a reference or a name for the Bohemia T2 design. The closest thing I can find is typical east slavic fashion but I was hoping for something Bohemian specific. My Google skills have failed me, so if anyone knows what its reference is from it'd be appreciated!

This has been intriguing me since the release of this content pack. This particular "uniform" would probably fit some nationalist society in the 19th century like Sokol here in the picture:

However, if you google "Bitva na Bílé hoře/Battle of White Mountain", you will only find images of soldiers that look mostly like the Brandenburgian or Hessian models. Never in my life have I encountered something like the Bohemian T2 in connection to the 30y war period, and I'm a student of history here in Czechia. I could of course be missing something, but I guess the artist just wanted to emphasize the Slavic aspect of our culture, which is kinda ahistorical though. Czech lands in the 17th century didn't have any distinct Slavic identity, we were part of the HRE cultural bloc and it would take two more centuries before we started exploring panslavism and tried to differentiate ourselves from the Germans.

 

[Ulfing]

Thank you for the post! At least that explains why they look "german" in the historical artwork for the 30 years war.

 

[phunkracy]

I believe the ultimate source for bohemian T2 must be Slovak Carpathian dress, as depicted in popular culture; Polish and Slovak movies about legendary Robin Hood-like persona named Janosik living in XVIIth century.

 

[PurpulaPhoenixum53]

I have three suggestions for the next unit pack

First

A Balkan Pack ; This would cover all the Balkan tags : Croatia, Hungary, Wallachia/Romania, Greece, Bulgaria, Serbia, Bosnia, Montenegro, Moldavia, and Albania

Second

A French Minors Pack ; This would cover all the French tags for tiers 2-4 : This would cover Brittany, Normandy, Burgundy, Toulouse, Guyenne, Provence, Orleans, Bourbon, Armagnac, Foix, and all the other tiny French minors.

Third

A Celtic Pack ; This would cover Scotland, Wales, Irish Minors and Ireland, and Brittany

 

[xangelo7]

I have three suggestions for the next unit pack

First

A Balkan Pack ; This would cover all the Balkan tags : Croatia, Hungary, Wallachia/Romania, Greece, Bulgaria, Serbia, Bosnia, Montenegro, Moldavia, and Albania

Second

A French Minors Pack ; This would cover all the French tags for tiers 2-4 : This would cover Brittany, Normandy, Burgundy, Toulouse, Guyenne, Provence, Orleans, Bourbon, Armagnac, Foix, and all the other tiny French minors.

Third

A Celtic Pack ; This would cover Scotland, Wales, Irish Minors and Ireland, and Brittany

I will agree with you but it think they should cover the Arabian unit pack/flavor pack or expansion first, the european nations having getting so many unit packs, sure the we want a eastern european pack but i think they should give some opportunity for the arabian nations, the french minor nations dont really matter unless your brittany.


but think they should put swords and shields for the arabs tier 1 units to diversify them just they did with the Daimyos tier 1

 

[Moarice]

I will agree with you but it think they should cover the Arabian unit pack/flavor pack or expansion first, the european nations having getting so many unit packs, sure the we want a eastern european pack but i think they should give some opportunity for the arabian nations, the french minor nations dont really matter unless your brittany.


but think they should put swords and shields for the arabs tier 1 units to diversify them just they did with the Daimyos tier 1

Agreed. Plus, some of them could also use some unique units of their own. Yemen, Oman, Najd, Hejaz and Granada, for example. The eastern part of the Muslim world could get some love too, I'd personally love to see special units for Persia, the Malays, Qara and Aq Qoyunlu and maybe also Hormuz, Chagatai (which, if I'm not mistaken, is the last of the "big" follow-up states of the Mongol Empire that lacks its own units) or Yarkand.

 

[PurpulaPhoenixum53]

think they should put swords and shields for the arabs tier 1 units

Personally, I would love it if more nations had shields on the models.

Agreed. Plus, some of them could also use some unique units of their own. Yemen, Oman, Najd, Hejaz and Granada, for example. The eastern part of the Muslim world could get some love too, I'd personally love to see special units for Persia, the Malays, Qara and Aq Qoyunlu and maybe also Hormuz, Chagatai (which, if I'm not mistaken, is the last of the "big" follow-up states of the Mongol Empire that lacks its own units) or Yarkand.

I'm willing to compromise if Persia gets modells. Question, do you feel that Armenia should get some models since they normally revolt and get free in my games from QQ.

 

[Moarice]

I'm willing to compromise if Persia gets modells. Question, do you feel that Armenia should get some models since they normally revolt and get free in my games from QQ.

As many nations as possible should have unique models.
But if we go through purely a gameplay perspective on this, then no, since they usually get absorbed by the Ottomans, Persia or even Russia pretty quickly.

 

[xangelo7]

Personally, I would love it if more nations had shields on the models.



I'm willing to compromise if Persia gets modells. Question, do you feel that Armenia should get some models since they normally revolt and get free in my games from QQ.

that the thing, but sword and shield makes the arab nations look unique from the generic long spear unit models, plus it fit the arabian theme

 

[PANGI]

I believe the ultimate source for bohemian T2 must be Slovak Carpathian dress, as depicted in popular culture; Polish and Slovak movies about legendary Robin Hood-like persona named Janosik living in XVIIth century.

these look distinctively hungarian however. there was nothing like that in bohemian lands

 

[Five_X]

Question, do you feel that Armenia should get some models since they normally revolt and get free in my games from QQ.

Smolensk got unique models and they rarely ever appear, so Armenia should definitely get something.

 

[PurpulaPhoenixum53]

Smolensk got unique models and they rarely ever appear, so Armenia should definitely get something.

Alright.

 

[Kooberius]

Well, Paradox is doing a new update based around the Middle East, so my best guess the next unit packs could be these:

Anatolian Beyliks Unit Pack:
Karaman, Candar, Ramazan, Dulkadir

Horde Settlers Unit Pack:
Qara Qoyunlu, Aq Qoyunlu

Caucasian Unit Pack:
Armenia, Gazikumukh, Shirvan, Georgia, Trebizond

Arabian Peninsula Unit Pack:
Yemen, Oman, Najd, Shammar, Hedjaz

Mashriq Unit Pack:
Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Ardalan

 

[Moarice]

Well, Paradox is doing a new update based around the Middle East, so my best guess the next unit packs could be these:

Anatolian Beyliks Unit Pack:
Karaman, Candar, Ramazan, Dulkadir

Horde Settlers Unit Pack:
Qara Qoyunlu, Aq Qoyunlu

Caucasian Unit Pack:
Armenia, Gazikumukh, Shirvan, Georgia, Trebizond

Arabian Peninsula Unit Pack:
Yemen, Oman, Najd, Shammar, Hedjaz

Mashriq Unit Pack:
Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Ardalan

I also really hope for a Granada/Andalusia unit.

 

[Teutonic King]

I also really hope for a Granada/Andalusia unit.

Oh I would love that. I hated how the Andalusian's always looked so bland.

 

[xangelo7]

I really hope is just a Immersion Pack, i know some people really hate the Immersion Pack but it does bring lots of units models and we dont have to wait for 6 to 5 months and we dont have to pay for 20 dollars of bland content and 8 bucks extra for unit pack.

 

[Grand Historian]

Oh I would love that. I hated how the Andalusian's always looked so bland.

We have Byzantine Units (albeit sub-par). I can't see why we can't get Granada.

 

[Dakka]

Would be nice if Arabia/Egypt got some unique stuff too, or at least make the Mamluk's units dynamic so they are easier to repurpose.

I would like to see a Nubian formable for Egypt to reclaim it is a Coptic Kingdom once more, could have a unique Sprite.

If we are REALLY lucky, perhaps a middle eastern unit revamp?

 

[Centuria]

I think a Middle Eastern pack is likely; only tim tim and Ottomans have units in the entire region, except for Cav units and the Mamluks as exceptions. ME does seem to be the focus of map reworks this time, and along with India and Africa is the area with the most generics

I still want Khmer units more though!

 

[xangelo7]

Paradox need to fix the mamluk star and crescent cavalry dlc