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John Meixner, we must be telepathically related :)

I just posted about the Majapahit Empire and the Sultanates like Jolo Malakka and Brunei. And then after reviewing my post I just saw that you posted the same topic and you are interested in seeing them in the game same as I. :)

yes, the addition of the Majapahit Empire (aka Sri Vijaya) would be terrifically awesome! It definitely fills a power vaccum in the Southeast Asian region during the 13th to 16th centuries, which is prior to the arrival of the Portuguese.

And yes, like you, I am aware that they started out an Indian Hindu-based dynasty. My history sources mention that many of the islands that they controlled were also Buddhist.

But after a couple of centuries the region was so inundated with the muscling influence of Arab and Muslim traders.... so the Majapahit had no choice but to eventually convert to Islam.

From what I read, this conversion to Islam was reluctant and slow. The dynasts wanted to preserve the "old ways" of their Hindu-Buddhist origins. And thus the coming of Islam was a contributing factor in the demise of their empire. The Portuguese simply came at a perfect time, they merely went after the carcass of the dying Majapahit empire. So the Portos had an easier time dealing with the smaller fragmented sultanates that were the remains of the once mighty Majapahit!
 
Hojo Shoguns

I just recently started playing the computer game Shogun Warlord Edition. Wow, Im learning tons of Japanese info from that one! ;)

The Hojo Shogunate was the reigning dynasty (or clan) that was credited with thwarting the first invasion of Kublai Khan. The second invasion was thwarted by the "divine wind" -- kamikazi.

Of course, the best reason to play Japan in EU2 would be the simple thrill of getting Oda Nobunaga as a general, the shogun of all shoguns! Frankly, I don't care much for the Oda clan but Nobunaga is such a tremendous leader that it did not matter. He was one of those rare leaders that led his clan to win thru impossible situations, against larger armies or better trained foes, to dominate all of Japan
 
Re: Hojo Shoguns

Originally posted by Suleyman

The Hojo Shogunate was the reigning dynasty (or clan) that was credited with thwarting the first invasion of Kublai Khan.
Actually both were stopped by hurricanes.
 
Originally posted by Demetrios
Read my post on Tekke a few pages back...

I don't think it will work very well in EU2.

Ok so are we finished with the monarch list now? Or not? Anyone?
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I hope not. I've still got part of Southeast Asia and the Americas to dump on Gen. Suvorov and Greven! :D

Never mind all the original EU nations that need rulers for 1419 - 1492 and 1792 - 1820...
 
good polish history sites :
http://www.kasprzyk.demon.co.uk/www/HistoryPolska.html

http://www.pgsnys.org/Links/history.html

http://www.citinet.net/ak/PolandHistory.html this page probably best very detailed coverage of all the ages from her conversion to shristianity in 10th century on up to now

events: 1370 Casimir III dies leaving thrown to Louis I of Hungary and his daughter Jadwiga,
1386 Jadwiga marries Jagiello of Lithunia creating a strong union as Jagiello becomes King of Poland
1410 Battle of Tannenburg Teutonic Order soundly beaten by Polish/Lithunia..first true recognition of the Growing nation by Europe...England and France especially began to court her favor in effort to have her might aid them on their side of the conflict between them
1413 Treaty of Union at Horodlo <merging in part Poland and Lithuania
1420 next series of sharp wars with Teutonic Order pushing her back even farther
1430 the law "Nieminem Captivabimus" passed <polish Hebeas Corpus>
1440 Magyars offered thrown ofHungary to Wladslaw III <Jagiello's son>
1444 Another war against Teutonic Order..Gdansk regained between 1420 to 1444
Wladslaw killed leading Hungarian/Polish force against Turkey at Varna on the Black Sea..thrown of Hungary passes out of Poland's hands for a 26 years
1466 West Prussia regained by Poland and new capitol of Teutonic Knights mvoed to Konigsburg and remaining state sworn as vassals to Poland...this to last even after the reformation <when TO converted they retained their vassalization and became a dukedom>
1471 Casimir elected King of Czech, his son Wladislaw became King of both Bohemia and Hungary in 1490
1495 Poland established Parliament with 2 houses
1515 deal signed by Jagiellos with Habsburgs that upon death of current ruler of Hungary/Bohemia the throwns of Prague and Budapest would pass to the habsburgs instead of remainign under Polish rule..
1526 king of Bohemia/Hungary dies and throwns fall into Habs control


POLISH KINGS AND RULING PRINCES

Early Monarchy (966-1138)

Due to rules of crowning to kings, only some of the crown princes mentioned below were croned to kings of Poland

963-992 - Mieszko I - first historical ruler from Piast dynasty, brought christanity to Poland
992-1025 - Boleslaw Chrobry [the Brave] (king since 1025, the first King of Poland)
1025-1034 - Mieszko II Lambert (king since 1025)
1031 - Bezprym
1034-1058 - Kazimierz I Odnowiciel [the Renewer]
1058-1079 - Bolesl`aw S`mial`y [the Bold] (king since 1078)
1079-1102 - Wl`adysl`aw I Herman
1102-1107 - Zbigniew and Bolesl`aw Krzywousty
1107-1138 - Boleslaw Krzywousty [with Curved Lips]

Period of a Federative State (1138-1306)

To avoid succession disputes, Poland was divided into regions ruled by princes from the royal family. One of them, in general the prince residing in Krako`w, was
fomally a supreme prince with little executive power over the other.

1138-1146 - Wl`adysl`aw II Wygnaniec
1146-1173 - Bolesl`aw Ke`dzierzawy
1173-1177 - Mieszko III Stary
1177-1194 - Kazimierz Sprawiedliwy
1194-1202 - Leszek Bial`y and Mieszko III Stary
1202 - Wl`adysl`aw Laskonogi
1202-1210 - Leszek Bial`y [the White]
1210-1211 - Mieszko Platnogi
1211-1227 - Leszek Bial`y
1228 - Wl`adysl`aw Laskonogi
1228-1232 - Konrad Mazowiecki
1232-1238 - Henryk Brodaty
1238-1241 - Henryk Poboz|ny
1241-1243 - Konrad Mazowiecki
1243-1279 - Bolesl`aw Wstydliwy
1279-1288 - Leszek Czarny [the Black]
1288-1290 - Henryk IV Probus
1290-1291 - Przemysl`aw II (king 1295-1296)
1291-1305 - Wacl`aw II czeski (king of Poland since 1303)
1305-1306 - Wacl`aw III czeski

Reunited Kingdom (1306-1399)

1306-1333 - Wladysl`aw L`okietek [the Little] (king since 1333)
1333-1370 - Kazimierz Wielki [the Great], king - the last of Piast dynasty
1370-1382 - Ludwik We`gierski, king (Andegawen dynasty)
1384-1399 - Blessed Queen Jadwiga (Andegawen dynasty), the only woman in the long list of heads of Polish state, also the only head of state in Poland
declared saint by the Catholic Church.

Jagiellonian Dynasty (1386-1572)

1386-1434 - Wladyslaw Jagiello
1434-1444 - Wl`adysl`aw III Warnen`czyk
1447-1492 - Kazimierz Jagiellonczyk
1492-1501 - Jan I Olbracht
1501-1506 - Aleksander Jagiellon`czyk
1506-1548 - Zygmunt I Stary
1548-1572 - Zygmunt II August

Elected Kings (First Republic, 1572-1795)

The kings listed below were elected in general elections (by noblemen) for life-long term of office (some retreated earlier). After the king died and before the next
was elected, the actual Primate of Poland had the obligations of the head of state.

1573-1574 - Henryk Walezy
1576-1586 - Stefan Batory
1587-1632 - Zygmunt III Waza
1632-1648 - Wl`adysl`aw IV Waza
1648-1668 - Jan II Kazimierz Waza
1669-1673 - Michal` Korybut Wis`niowiecki
1674-1686 - Jan III Sobieski - rescued Vienna and Europe from Turkish flood
1687-1704 - August II Mocny (Wettin)
1704-1708 - Stanisl`aw Leszczynski
1708-1732 - August II Mocny (Wettin)
1733-1736 - Stanisl`aw Leszczynski
1733-1763 - August III (Wettin)
1764-1795 - Stanislaw August Poniatowski - the last king of Poland

Partition of Poland (1795 - 1918)

In this time some Russian Tsars crowned themselves to "Kings of Poland", but were not recognized as such by Polish nation.

hope this helps some...
 
Re: Re: Hojo Shoguns

Originally posted by Aetius

Actually both were stopped by hurricanes.

no, they were not both stopped by hurricanes.

one of the two invasions, the Mongols clearly established a beach-head. they landed in the area of souteastern coast of kyushu. that was Hojo clan territory (the clan of the then ruling shogun). The Hojo clan quickly got rid of the Mongols, who were already weakened and disorganized by the hurricane. many mongols drowned (and ships sunk) before they could establish a beachhead.

the mongols did not make much progress other than landing on the coast. it does not matter that the Mongols did not get further inland. the fact that they disembarked on the coast of japan and started to set up camp on the coast is called an "invasion" as far as I'm concerned.

had the hojo clan (who owned that coastal province) not acted to decisively kick out the mongols, i'm sure the mongols would have called on reinforcements from mainland china
 
Re: Re: Re: Hojo Shoguns

Originally posted by Suleyman
no, they were not both stopped by hurricanes.

I think it might be better to shift this discussion to somewhere else...
 
Hey Suvorov,

How's life?

Listen, it will take longer to compile some cultural events, job, you know. Anyways, I was wondering if you need any political events during monarchs' reigns, like say civil war, good minister and crap like that. I can send you my events.csv file or whatever format you want it to be. If you want it, that is.

Have fun.

Crook
 
This link is sort of useful for monarchs and some events. Has some nice pictures I guess could be used as insigna/flags (eg. Korea, Hawaii). Heavy reading because of all the details and in my view rather bad choice of fonts and so on. Useful if it is possible to customise titles like general/colonel. I can't believe the effort to necessary to compile the info on the Ottomans...

http://www.dreamwater.net/regiment/RoyalArk/royalark.htm

Gen. Suvorov could you please provide some info on what you want us to look for, what is lacking and what is sufficient at the moment.
 
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info on the Ottomans...

http://www.dreamwater.net/regiment/...rk/royalark.htm

Gen. Suvorov could you please provide some info on what you

This link isn't very helpful. If anyone needs info on Ottomans, Persia, Uzbeks, Mughals and the like -- let me know, I can pour some info on you ;) . When I get back to the US, that is. I am in Germany at the moment, drinking Moninger :rolleyes:

Crook
 
Originally posted by Crook

This link isn't very helpful. If anyone needs info on Ottomans, Persia, Uzbeks, Mughals and the like -- let me know, I can pour some info on you ;).
There's a bunch of stuff on a lot of obscure countries and Kings I thought could be useful... oh well... Any good at Turkish? :)
 
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Well, it looks like the monarch and leader work for EU 2 is now, at least partially, on my shoulders. :)

If you mail stuff to Greven, please CC it to me as well at doomdark@ludd.luth.se. (I haven't got a Paradox e-mail address yet.)
 
Hey Doomie, do you want me to send you all the monarch lists I've also been sending Gen. Suvorov? I've also got a lot of questions I've thrown Greven's way, but haven't gotten any answers for dealing with certain difficulties dealing with making monarch files for some nations - mainly as the list Greven sent was ambiguous and redundant in some cases (for example what state exactly is meant by Myanmar, or why have both Khmer and Cambodia when they are the same state, just at different periods?)
 
Originally posted by Crook
Hey Doomie,

same question - events? Yea? or Ney?

BTW, would be helpful, if you guys periodically post somewhere a list of mon/lead that you have, so we won't have to dig somewhere we don't have to. Otherwise, Demetrios probably is the person, showering you guys, with those files.

Crook

Do you want a list of the nations for which I've sent monarchs lists in, or do you want lists of the monarchs themselves? The first is relatively easy, the second would take up a lot of time and room... :D
 
Do you want a list of the nations for which I've sent monarchs lists in, or do you want lists of the monarchs themselves? The first is relatively easy, the second would take up a lot of time and room...

I would prefer the latter, but I understand the technical difficulties.... Anyways, I'm more concerned with the stats than the
actual names, I just don't wanna see another pope with 8 military rating ;) Besides, I already sent some of the lists too, so I don't know if it's worth sending anything else, or make any corrections (hopefully not :D ).

Crook
 
Originally posted by Crook


I would prefer the latter, but I understand the technical difficulties.... Anyways, I'm more concerned with the stats than the
actual names, I just don't wanna see another pope with 8 military rating ;) Besides, I already sent some of the lists too, so I don't know if it's worth sending anything else, or make any corrections (hopefully not :D ).

Crook

Well, I'm not sending stats with the monarch lists, only suggestions on whether a stat should be "high", "low", "very low", etc. I'll let the experts decide on what exactly those mean... :D I didn't suggest stats for everyone though, just those I had a good handle on...

Uh, I don't know which Pope exactly you are using as an example, but surely Pope Julius II should have a very high military stat. He often led armies personally into battle and was exceptionally warlike for a Pope...

I've sent in lists for virtually evey Eurasian nation that Greven listed for us. I'm planning on doing the whole lot. Don't let this keep you from going on and sending your own parallel lists. I'm sure there are mistakes here and there in mine and having more than one list can allow Paradox to catch such errors. Plus, you'll give them a second set of ideas for stats.
 
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