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It's not 7 species, but how many players is it ? You said right from the get go that races were customisable (which is very standard for the genre) so their number was never a worry, but what Grand Strategy should bring is a great number of entities not necessarily vying for any kind of "victory". All of your historical games have had dozens and dozens of nations even in their blobbier moments, with CK2 taking the cake with hundreds of more-or-less autonomous landholders.
With the move back to a more traditional 4X model, the "symmetrical start" from a single planet and the single screenshot of the political map from your steam store page, I've been led to believe that this won't be the case for this game. I'd love to be wrong and learn that new nations will pop up by the dozen in the mid-game because of separatist tendencies or other civilisation discovering interstellar travel later than the starting few, but in that case : Let us play as them. Plenty of playing with backwards nations has been done in the EU and Vicky series, I'm sure the experience could be interesting in space too.

They already said there will be many and many smaller factions you can meet in your game. You can even meet species without space-traveling and observe them from their moon.
 
That's... your only reason for not approving of slavery?

I would've said that it's abhorrent to take a person's liberty, but then you all would've just tried to turn that on me through the fascist angle. Really, my politics are more neo-reactionary than anything else.
 
You want to throw down over political beliefs? You've come to the right place (a video game forum about space adventures)

no matter matter what the color of our skin or our stance on slavery, or whether or not you would entertain the idea of siding with fascists over liberals, i think we can agree that all of our space ships make the same "pew pew pew" noises when they attack, and that should tell us that we have more common ground than we have differences
 
You want to throw down over political beliefs? You've come to the right place (a video game forum about space adventures)
To be fair, it's not that inexplicable. This is a video game subforum about space pew pews, but it is part of a website which is about petty nationalism, historical nerdism and obscure political/religious ideologies.
 
Its 7 phenotypes that all species are sorted in.


Let me quote the official website:

Stellaris said:
Dynamic Worlds with a vast number of Unique Random Species
Choose between 7 different playable species, each with unique appearances, traits, and ethics. Alternatively, design and name a custom species with the government and attributes you desire

:confused:
 
Let me quote the official website:



:confused:

'with a vast number of Unique Random Species'
'Alternatively, design and name a custom species with the government and attributes you desire'


There are just 7 predesigned ones to choose but not seven species at all.
 
Wouldn't that be insanely overpowered?

I mean, just 4 Daleks are more than enough to defeat entire planetary civilizations. An entire empire of them would be insanely OP.

Hmm.. True, but it could be a fun endgame race to fight against, kind of like the Borg, everyone putting aside their differences to help defeat them.
 
'with a vast number of Unique Random Species'
'Alternatively, design and name a custom species with the government and attributes you desire'


There are just 7 predesigned ones to choose but not seven species at all.
Thing is their official statement contradicts the developer's statement.
 
Thing is their official statement contradicts the developer's statement.
I'd go with the developer. The marketing department may well have the wrong end of the stick (or they've changed the name from an earlier version).
 
That ISN'T what he was arguing, and I don't disagree with that either. But it's one thing to say that there's more differences between individuals than there are between populations and quite another to say that populations don't exist, as we've done a damn good job of mapping out the distinctions between men and animals.

I think he was saying just that. Race is a social construct because there is no definite gradient of variation to determine who gets this race and who that race.

And all of this DOES matter for the game in determining what mechanics the game will include for breeding between populations. Suppose, for example, that you play as humans, or some other faction analogous to humans. Will there be other humanoids you can mix with? Will there be aliens you CAN'T mix with? To what extent will species split apart or converge?

Mix? I don't think the game will feature hybrids. I would guess that, as in EUIV, there are steeper penalties the more their culture is removed from yours.
 
Thing is their official statement contradicts the developer's statement.

No. The official statement don't say 'There are seven species'. Read the parts I quoted. The official statement says '7 different playable species' this is different from '7 species'. Even the official statement says there are many random and custom species.
 
No. The official statement don't say 'There are seven species'. Read the parts I quoted. The official statement says '7 different playable species' this is different from '7 species'. Even the official statement says there are many random and custom species.
Yes, it's "7 different playable species" and then we have a thread made by the developer who says "It's not 7 species! It's 7 phenotypes that all species are sorted in". Question is: does this mean there will be a wide range of species we can play within these 7 phenotypes?".
 
Well arm are kind of needed, evolved specie need prehension for use of tool, unless they have telekinesis, advanced morphing capability (a specie with non-Newtonian fluid body for example) or are simply energy based.
As pointed out earlier in the thread you could have more legs and still have arms. For instance an elephant with arms. Or a bear; that can stand up if needed, but walk on all 4 normally.
 
I was intrigued by the idea that robots might rebel, therefore I have a question. Will you be able to play as a robotic machine race ?
or even turn into one? like The Borg!