Solmyr said:We are only allowed to recover KoJ lands though, so no Baghdad yet.
Way to burst my bubble...
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Way to burst my bubble...
Sterkarm said:Way to burst my bubble...
Just become a Crusader, and you too can enjoy sunny Baghdad with its scenic ruins and 72 virgins.
relative good session
sjealland turned out a very nice prov , and is about as rich as nogvorod currently
sjealland turned out a very nice prov , and is about as rich as nogvorod currently
Plenty of things happening...
First of all, we are recreating Byzantium from Adrianapolis, as it is the biggest independent greek principality and it's neat to Greek Emperor around. Any greek land may be returned with normal voluntary returning boost (see first post) to Byzantium.
Following things could be considered:
- Other independent greek princes made as vassals of new Emperor
- New Emperor gaining claims on all old Byzantium territories not becoming part of Byzantium
- Something else?
Then, we could create KoJ, if all participants of holy land freeing crusade (aka Germany, France, Poland & Hungary) agree it's for the best now. If it's agreed that they would be still too weak as afaik significant amount of KoJ territory is still held as heathens and crusade is still underway, not done, we can delay creation of KoJ until after next session.
If it is created, it will be composed of at least all KoJ duchies we have created and any land kings are willing to give them. Land held directly by you as your demesne (like my lands) can be given to new vassals according to normal Grant Title option (I can do it while keeping game paused). If you want to do this, point me to who you want to appoint as vassals and I'll do it for you.
Because Byzantium was ultimately destroyed, no defensive crusade piety bonuses are available, except if you return lands to new Emperor.
Vassals breaking free due to gameplay oddity with making vassals during war can be re-vasallized, as it is a bug after all. Following will be:
- Duchy of Moravia
First of all, we are recreating Byzantium from Adrianapolis, as it is the biggest independent greek principality and it's neat to Greek Emperor around. Any greek land may be returned with normal voluntary returning boost (see first post) to Byzantium.
Following things could be considered:
- Other independent greek princes made as vassals of new Emperor
- New Emperor gaining claims on all old Byzantium territories not becoming part of Byzantium
- Something else?
Then, we could create KoJ, if all participants of holy land freeing crusade (aka Germany, France, Poland & Hungary) agree it's for the best now. If it's agreed that they would be still too weak as afaik significant amount of KoJ territory is still held as heathens and crusade is still underway, not done, we can delay creation of KoJ until after next session.
If it is created, it will be composed of at least all KoJ duchies we have created and any land kings are willing to give them. Land held directly by you as your demesne (like my lands) can be given to new vassals according to normal Grant Title option (I can do it while keeping game paused). If you want to do this, point me to who you want to appoint as vassals and I'll do it for you.
Because Byzantium was ultimately destroyed, no defensive crusade piety bonuses are available, except if you return lands to new Emperor.
Vassals breaking free due to gameplay oddity with making vassals during war can be re-vasallized, as it is a bug after all. Following will be:
- Duchy of Moravia
Here is the save:
http://www.kolumbus.fi/solmyr/CK/Kingdoms.zip
And my genealogy:
http://www.kolumbus.fi/solmyr/CK/verman1.html
For my part, I'd prefer to wait with KoJ as I'm still trying to get the Seljuks to make peace with Armenia Minor (and am in the process of retaking a province). Nikaea will remain as part of Armenia Minor so feel free to give Byz a claim on it.
For Pat's edification, in England George died aged nearly 70, and Arthur inherited. Unfortunately, either Arthur or his wife seem to be completely infertile...
http://www.kolumbus.fi/solmyr/CK/Kingdoms.zip
And my genealogy:
http://www.kolumbus.fi/solmyr/CK/verman1.html
For my part, I'd prefer to wait with KoJ as I'm still trying to get the Seljuks to make peace with Armenia Minor (and am in the process of retaking a province). Nikaea will remain as part of Armenia Minor so feel free to give Byz a claim on it.
For Pat's edification, in England George died aged nearly 70, and Arthur inherited. Unfortunately, either Arthur or his wife seem to be completely infertile...
Btw, it seems name list doesn't matter, because I had normal 1.04a name list on (didn't remember to change).
Byakhiam said:
Sterk apparently saw his grandson as Krzeslaw though, while his name was actually Zbigniew. If anyone notices names in this save file that were different when you saw them in the game, please report so we can ascertain whether having different name lists affects anything.
Solmyr said:
Well, I saw Zbigniew as Krzeslaw when Sterk pointed that out as well.
The reign of Kazimierz II draws to a close, and soon his grandson, Zbigniew, will be the ruler of Poland, a lad who grew up in the court of Presburg. Could he maybe be edited to my court so I could marry him?
Sterkarm said:The reign of Kazimierz II draws to a close, and soon his grandson, Zbigniew, will be the ruler of Poland, a lad who grew up in the court of Presburg. Could he maybe be edited to my court so I could marry him?
It can be done, if people think it's reasonable. I for one know how much of a headache it can be when your only heir sits in foreign court and doesn't get married and then you live on and on and your heir gets old... So, if people think that moving courtier first heirs from foreign courts to own court is good edit request, we can make an example case from this. Of course the heir's liege (in this case Hungary) needs to give consent too.
It's pointless, because it will be some months before he is 16, and he will move straight back to my court. I don't think editing to overried a WAD game mechanism is necessary.
Oh, and for me the only edit to be made is renaming my eldest son (duke of Orleans) to Charles V.
Will you get a sub for yourself Jarkko?
Noted that request, Solmyr.
We won't edit anybody's age, Sterkarm.
I don't think it's guaranteed that Zbigniew moves back to Hungary and to be sure Sterkarm could give him a title, so that he at least marries on his own.
Noted that request, Solmyr.
We won't edit anybody's age, Sterkarm.
I don't think it's guaranteed that Zbigniew moves back to Hungary and to be sure Sterkarm could give him a title, so that he at least marries on his own.
Solmyr said:
Perhaps Arthur simply prefers the company of men to women? It's not unheard-of in English Kings, after all...
Oh, and how in Hades did I wind up with Usti nad Labum?
I think that's just a rumor about Richard started by historians who like to make trouble, or maybe it's just that I hate to believe that the epitomy of chivalry was gay.
Sterkarm said:
Well, I'd say that Phillip the Pious of France was more the epitome of chivalry than Richard, but either way I don't see why it would matter in the slightest if Richard preferred men to women. Several great men/conquorers/warriors in the history books have been homosexual or bisexual (like Julius Cesare, Alexander the Great, Oda Nobunga, and Frederick the Great of Prussia), so I don't really see why anyone would care.