[Mod] A Game of Thrones (Original Super Thread)

[Susana]

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http://kotaku.com/5913709/there-is-an-awesome-game-of-thrones-video-game-you-can-play-it-right-now

Congrats!

Kind regards
Susana

 

[Darkrenown]

So I saw some complaint about num_of_friends and num_of_rivals triggers always returning 0. While this is true on day 0, they are calculated at the end of the first day and should work correctly at any point besides the first day a game is loaded. I believe that'll be changed next patch, but you should still be able to use them now.

 

[Darkrenown]

Not sure about the others, I will check tomorrow (Swedish holiday today).

 

[neondt]

Just a thought about the Lannister succession

It's made pretty clear in the books that Tywin would never allow Tyrion to inherit Casterly Rock. Have you considered giving Tyrion the "bastard/divested" trait? He could be legimitised if Tywin has a random change of heart, and it means the Lannister succession looks more plasuble, with (I think) Kevan becoming the heir. This could even be the general rule; dwarfs are automatically bastards unless legitimised. As Tyrion himself say, all dwarfs are bastards in their father's eyes.

As much fun as it is to have Tyrion being Lord Paramount of the Westerlands, I think this would create a better roleplaying experience for Tywin players. Atm, to play him according to his character you have to assassinate Tyrion (or otherwise bring about his death) to prevent him from inheriting the Rock, which is a little cold even for Tywin.

 

[neondt]

Problem is that automatically makes Cersei the default heir as kingdom is agnatic-cognatic, so Kevan is still uncanonically stuffed. Which means that Cersei/Roberts child is LP of Crownlands/westerlands. Another reason why more kingdoms need to be straight up Agnatic

Good point, I'd forgotten about Cersei. I agree that the Westerlands should be agnatic. In fact, maybe all Lord Paramount titles except Dorne should be agnatic. Although the Iron Throne should remain a-c.

Edit: Also, if we accept that the Lord Paramount title comes with the currently unrepresented title of "Warden of the West" (an entirely military position), I don't think the kingdom would be very accepting of a female holding such a title.

 

[neondt]

The books also make it pretty clear that Tywin (and other lords, like Black Walder Frey and Brynden "Blackfish" Tully) would never (re)marry, but you can still marry them off. I think we might just want to allow for some deviation between the books and the game. Tywin in the books is operating off the assumption that Jaime will come to his senses and renounce his Kingsguard vows, which is obviously not going to happen.

Granted, but surely we should have a choice about whether we want to play a strictly "cannonical" Tywin or an "off-the-rails" version. In the current version, Tywin isn't forced to remarry, and in the same way he shouldn't be forced to accept Tyrion as legitimate. Bastardising Tyrion lets us make that choice, though admittedly that would necessitate making the Westerlands agnatic to prevent Robert's heir inheriting in most games. Joffrey (who'd eventually give away the title to someone else, probably Tommen) inheriting seems just as unlikely as Tyrion inheriting.

 

[Darkrenown]

But there's still the problem that add_friend and add_rival do nothing and that any/random_friend and any/random_rival are broken scopes. If these are being fixed in 1.06 as well, then christ, I'll have your babies.

Well, took a bit longer than I thought, but Doomdark says any/random_friend/rival scopes do work, although possibly not on day0 if it uses the cached value. It should work from day0 too in 1.06 though.

 

[neondt]

Fantastic, I adore the Dothraki in the series and the books.

I can imagine the Dothraki being very interesting to play. Applying the new Muslim mechanics would be awesome, especially if it's possible to adapt the nation naming conventions (i.e name each Khalasar after its Khal). Also give them their own Ironborn Raid CB and a de jure Dothraki Empire - with a Dothraki-cultured Emperor being called "Khal of Khals".

 

[neondt]

I'm about to start a modded game where I've edited all the LP's to be agnatic, and women get inheritable claims (so, for example, Mace Tyrell might hypothetically decide to press a claim on the North for a grandson who was the child of Willas and Sansa). I'm hoping this'll put an end to all the female child LP's I keep seeing.

 

[neondt]

I have a very minor suggestion. Domeric Bolton begins with the Kind trait. I think Trusting might better represent the very little we know about him. The Trusting trait lowers intrigue while raising diplomacy if I remember rightly. We know that Domeric was a fairly likeable fellow, and we also have every reason to suspect that he was rather naive - he sought out his bastard brother because he'd always wanted a brother, and didn't suspect that Roose would poison him.

tl;dr - Can Domeric Bolton be Trusting instead of Kind please?

Edit: I just looked at the game files so I could mod this in myself and found something strange. It actually says that Domeric should be both Trusting and Kind at birth, but in game he only gets Kind. Similarly, Ramsay is meant to have Lunatic, Bastard and Genius but only has Genius and Bastard in game.