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add holy sites for atzec

Thanks, now they're playable. And after moving them into their own group they now have the regular interface.
 
I would like to see a religious map if anything. It is fairly obvious that there' going to be a big "RHLLOR" written all over the place, but I'm curious on the less explored parts of Essos.
 
Presumably there would be a religion head for R'hllor too... and... holy wars? :O

That may be balance breaking in Westeros though- reformed religions can holy war, and all Westerosi religions are reformed. Look at the North in the Bleeding Years start- great stat king, well liked by vassals, easily 30,000 troops. I wouldn't be surprised, if holy war was enabled, if in most playthroughs Torrhen Stark's realm stretched from the Wall to the Arbour.
 
That may be balance breaking in Westeros though- reformed religions can holy war, and all Westerosi religions are reformed. Look at the North in the Bleeding Years start- great stat king, well liked by vassals, easily 30,000 troops. I wouldn't be surprised, if holy war was enabled, if in most playthroughs Torrhen Stark's realm stretched from the Wall to the Arbour.

And the problem would be...?


:p
 
Out of interest, during the AFFC scenario,
does anyone know if Ice is reforged if Stannis wins the throne and Jon *doesn't* renounce his oath to the Night's Watch?

Put in a spoiler tag just in case.
 
Can't wait for this new update. I intend to go on some Cortez/Pizarro style run in Essos. Lord Littlefinger has decided that Essos contains easier pickings. Rally all 200 men from the fingers and set forth, my brothers.

None for me, but other people, shifty, immoral people, blonde people, don't like the Starks...

Yeah, I like the Lannisters. At least they know they're some ruthless power politicking, amoral low lives. I don't like any of the other great houses or the houses raised by the Targaryens. All a bunch of uptight, arrogant and entrenched overlords, hopefully they all die, long live social mobility and so forth. The Targs are as always, the worst, however. I'm not quite sure what they achieved on their own merit, seeing as they weren't at all important before taming their dragons. In fact, taming those dragons might well be the only thing they achieved on their own merit. Given that dragons are apparently some super weapon that can't be beat, taking Westeros after taming those dragons is probably about as difficult as conquering ancient Rome with the US nuclear arsenal.

Making Dany bite it is probably the best feeling this mod has given me. 5000 corny, entitled, I AM THE MOTHER OF DRAGONS AND BLOOD OF WHOEVER lines in the novels has really, really made me hate that family.
 
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Making Dany bite it is probably the best feeling this mod has given me. 5000 corny, entitled, I AM THE MOTHER OF DRAGONS AND BLOOD OF WHOEVER lines in the novels has really, really made me hate that family.

I hear that. I personally favour playing Euron and waiting to see if she becomes Queen, then storming King's Landing, taking her throne and herself as a salt wife, and she's condemned as a slave forever more. Muahaha.
 
There should pretty clearly be an event that, if you are Young Griff and win the Iron Throne, you should offer marriage to Daenerys. That something doesn't trigger almost immediately seems pretty silly, tbh.

Thats because
canonically, she is already married at the time that young griff invades westeros, or would invade anyhow. Plus given both have a claim and technically Daenerys being the older of the two, she would have a better claim, plus she isnt technically a bastard. Young Griff is supposedly Rhaegars son, but that is hard to prove while Dany has a better proof of lineage. Unless Griff has Blackfyre, which is supposedly in the chest that Miopatis sent along with him.
Essentially there is no event which would do that because it technically makes no sense for it to exist at the time
 
Thats because
canonically, she is already married at the time that young griff invades westeros, or would invade anyhow. Plus given both have a claim and technically Daenerys being the older of the two, she would have a better claim, plus she isnt technically a bastard. Young Griff is supposedly Rhaegars son, but that is hard to prove while Dany has a better proof of lineage. Unless Griff has Blackfyre, which is supposedly in the chest that Miopatis sent along with him.
Essentially there is no event which would do that because it technically makes no sense for it to exist at the time
Dany being older doesn't give her the better claim. If Young Griff is really Aegon, he has the better claim both by being Aerys's firstborn son's firstborn son and by being male. If he's a Blackfyre like many suspect, he technically has the better claim because Daeron was a bastard and Daemon Blackfyre was the rightful king. I'll give you the "already married" thing though :p
 
Dany being older doesn't give her the better claim. If Young Griff is really Aegon, he has the better claim both by being Aerys's firstborn son's firstborn son and by being male. If he's a Blackfyre like many suspect, he technically has the better claim because Daeron was a bastard and Daemon Blackfyre was the rightful king. I'll give you the "already married" thing though :p

Thats my point though, right now Dany has the better claim on account that she is older than Griff and her lineage isnt called into question, Dany is a targaryen, where as Griff could be a bastard at best, if not a blackfyre or just some impostor. For all intents and purposes Dany wouldnt marry him even then because there is no real point to it since he could just be of valyrian descent without being part of her dynasty. The sword would give Griff simply a slightly better chance for the throne if anything else, since even if he was "just" a blackfyre, he would be close enough in relation, but that depends on Dany not pressing her claim to the throne.
 
Couple questions.
On the forums I saw mentions that the Religion Change event and the Kingsguard events should only begin to pop once you make the Iron Throne(In the Aegon start obviously), but in a previous version the Religion change popped once I conquered The Reach, and the Kingsguard events began to pop once I accepted the religion change. Was this a bug, was it WAD, or was there a change at some point?
Also, what are the modifiers for the "King who Knelt" events/nickname? I would like to keep with the canon of having the Stark be The King Who Knelt, and it has stopped me from trying to install the "normal" family from controlling The Reach because they knelt before I could kill them off.
What needed to install the Greyjoys/Tyrells, and to get my brother's flag to change properly?

Also in one game as Robb Stark I managed to get The Night's Watch(with Jon at the head) to kneel and become a vassal, he got an LP Title of Night King, what exactly causes this and how can I repeat it?
 
Thats my point though, right now Dany has the better claim on account that she is older than Griff and her lineage isnt called into question, Dany is a targaryen, where as Griff could be a bastard at best, if not a blackfyre or just some impostor. For all intents and purposes Dany wouldnt marry him even then because there is no real point to it since he could just be of valyrian descent without being part of her dynasty. The sword would give Griff simply a slightly better chance for the throne if anything else, since even if he was "just" a blackfyre, he would be close enough in relation, but that depends on Dany not pressing her claim to the throne.

again you bring up her age as if it means anything. As a CK2 player you should know how succession laws work... Also, if Young Griff really is Aegon, he's older than Dany (and if he isn't, he probably still is older than her, he's about 16 and she's 14).
 
again you bring up her age as if it means anything. As a CK2 player you should know how succession laws work... Also, if Young Griff really is Aegon, he's older than Dany (and if he isn't, he probably still is older than her, he's about 16 and she's 14).

Actually, by the end of the latest book, Danny is about 16 I believe- I think it has been about two/almost three years since the start of the series (internally of course) and she was about 13 when she fell pregnant with Khal Drogo's child (forget his name- the Stallion that mounts the word).

edit: which should make Young Griff about 17/18, if he is the real Aegon son of Rhaegar.
 
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