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Ehh, it WAS Chris King but since he left there is doubt that there IS a Vicky guy at all. Shams hinted at that being the reason for there not being any Vicky 3 in development at the time a question about it came up, like a year or so ago.
Ah and probably why Vic mechanics havent been more universally spread in paradox titles.
 
This is not a joke post. I honestly tried to patiently explain people in Reddit that kept insisting it was Rome 2. These are examples of my futile attempts:


Romist reply: That doesn't mean anything! It could be that the game starts [X years before or after Rome's start date] and it wouldn't be a sequel!
Me: sigh


Romist reply: See? The seven hills east of Pompeii and the three temples of Artemisa north of Vesuvius! (or some such nonsense)
Me: sigh


Me: Now this is obviously means it's not Rome 2 as stabbing of pigs was a Rome way of getting stability.
Romist reply: No uhh! It just means there will be other ways of increasing stability!
Me: sigh


Romist reply: See? This confirms Rome 2 as terrain was really important to move elephants and cavalry!
Me: It's the same for all PDS games. (And of course... sigh).


Romist reply: CK2, HoI4 and since Rome 2 will probably have features of both games, they picked him as the obvious choice!
Me: sigh


Me: only Rome had some sort of elections and the Greek City States (which at the time were history already). Technology wasn't really important in that period ('Barbarians' had no technology and kicked Rome's arse).
Romist reply: Elections? This confirms Rome 2 for realz, might as well just announce it today!
Me: sigh


Me: This confirms it's a space based game as it's been said in several interviews and streams that they would love to make a space 4x game.
Romist reply: No No No No You want to take My Precious!
Me: sigh


Me: See? that haircut is modern.
Romist reply: See? a black dude slave from Abyssinia
Me: sigh



Romist reply: They confirmed Rome 2! Leaders were very important in Rome! *opens champagne*
Me: sigh


Me: A quote from Blade Runner, please tell me that settles it!
Romist reply: No! this represents how Rome would see new things on their expansions, elephants, zebras, cobras!
Me: final sigh
Since they have yet to implement the agree disagree systme here:
Disagree. You wanted it not to be something so you made your facts fit that, other people wanted it to fit something so they made the facts fit that. Humans always make the facts fit whatever they hope to be true. It's one of the nig problems we've had when developing science and the reason that scientific methoc looks like it does (to minimize the damage of people doing this). Also several of your comments are just wrong.
 
Since they have yet to implement the agree disagree systme here:
Disagree. You wanted it not to be something so you made your facts fit that, other people wanted it to fit something so they made the facts fit that. Humans always make the facts fit whatever they hope to be true. It's one of the nig problems we've had when developing science and the reason that scientific methoc looks like it does (to minimize the damage of people doing this). Also several of your comments are just wrong.
Since they have yet to implement the agree-disagree system here:
Agree.


Most of the hints could have meant literally anything and could be read in any way, and until the copyright reveal and the Steam leaks happened there was plenty of space to think that it could have been a game in an ancient setting just as there was plenty of space to think that it was not. It wasn't unreasonable to think that Rome 2 could have taken the form of a new franchise with a different name, and "no stabbing of pigs" didn't rule out Rome just like "don't fear to be a badboy" didn't rule out Europa Universalis 4 (if anything, it openly suggested that the game would have been Rome, but it actually was just Paradox trolling its fans again).

But obviously Rome "fanatics", or Romists to use the words of our little genius here, are just unreasonable children who deserve to be mocked for having a preference in settings, right? How dare they voice their desire for something they want?
Inconceivable, truly. Also, what an idiot.
 
The scientific method was in use long before the rise of rome though. As for formalising it, it was first (as far as we know) formalised in the first centuries by a guy in china then around year 1k by some arab guy and then finally by sir francis bacon in the 16th century. So it has nothing to do with modern times.

Oh, please. I know that Aristotle already knew that observation and repetition were key to understanding a phenomenon. I'm talking about widespread adoption of the scientific method by the Academia. And this came into being between lockian Empirism and Enlightment.
 
Since they have yet to implement the agree-disagree system here:
Agree.


Most of the hints could have meant literally anything and could be read in any way, and until the copyright reveal and the Steam leaks happened there was plenty of space to think that it could have been a game in an ancient setting just as there was plenty of space to think that it was not. It wasn't unreasonable to think that Rome 2 could have taken the form of a new franchise with a different name, and "no stabbing of pigs" didn't rule out Rome just like "don't fear to be a badboy" didn't rule out Europa Universalis 4 (if anything, it openly suggested that the game would have been Rome, but it actually was just Paradox trolling its fans again).

But obviously Rome "fanatics", or Romists to use the words of our little genius here, are just unreasonable children who deserve to be mocked for having a preference in settings, right? How dare they voice their desire for something they want?
Inconceivable, truly. Also, what an idiot.

I personally don't think they were trying to troll, but I agree that given the hint they actually gave for EUIV, the one about "there will be no stabbing of pigs" is rather poorly chosen, if you want to signal that this was indeed not a Rome game.
Quite literally of course, it means exactly that, but given their hint history it leaves it open for intepretation.

The picture and hint 6 were more indicative though.
 
Oh, please. I know that Aristotle already knew that observation and repetition were key to understanding a phenomenon. I'm talking about widespread adoption of the scientific method by the Academia. And this came into being between lockian Empirism and Enlightment.
In europe, the latest time, in other times and places it's been just as prevalent. And you're wrong about Locke, Bacon said to study the world by looking at the world before him (roughly a century). And they are just the first english speakers to make the statement. Da Vinci suposedly had similair ideas (a century before Bacon).

Understanding of mathemetics and physics helped the ancient civilisations build their wonders of the world. measure distances and so on. Everything static they could measure. And they did.

In india there were philosophers who proposed the energy nature of matter before the birth of christ. That's more than two thousand years before eninstein.
 
But obviously Rome "fanatics", or Romists to use the words of our little genius here, are just unreasonable children who deserve to be mocked for having a preference in settings, right? How dare they voice their desire for something they want?
There is nothing wrong in having a preference and voicing that preference, but while it can be agreed that hints didn't rule out Rome completely - although many, especially the later ones, made it more and more unlikely - it's undeniable that some fans of Rome were anything but reasonable and mature at some point (namely after the leak of Stellaris on Steam and after announcement that sealed the deal).
 
I personally don't think they were trying to troll, but I agree that given the hint they actually gave for EUIV, the one about "there will be no stabbing of pigs" is rather poorly chosen, if you want to signal that this was indeed not a Rome game.
Quite literally of course, it means exactly that, but given their hint history it leaves it open for intepretation.

The picture and hint 6 were more indicative though.
Number 6 narrowed it down but antiquity wasn't amongst what it excluded. The picture however set it in stine that it was a sci-fi game. Coupled with the copyright info and the leak that stellaris was aspace game we were left with two possible outcomes.
Augustus and stellaris is the same.
Paradox is workign on botha sci fi game and a spce game.
And since the first is simpler it wa smore likely.
 
There is nothing wrong in having a preference and voicing that preference, but while it can be agreed that hints didn't rule out Rome completely - although many, especially the later ones, made it more and more unlikely - it's undeniable that some fans of Rome were anything but reasonable and mature at some point (namely after the leak of Stellaris on Steam and after announcement that sealed the deal).
Well after the picture I think many of them were joking.
 
Perhaps. I didn't know if they were joking or not to be honest, but for sure some were bitter enough to wish Stellaris to be a failure as a game and as a financial product (only because it wasn't Rome/HGS), which is not something you should be wishing for a company whose games you like to play.
 
Well conbgratulations now you've givne the community the idea that it might one day get a dedicated rome/antiquity game rather than EU: Rome 2, so I hope for your sake that you're not actually working on EU:Rome2.


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I enjoy how hint #1 gave it away in hindsight. Someone went to public trademarks and found Paradox's late June filing for a grand strategy game called Stellaris. It wasn't until July 23 that it posted to the public database, but you can't hide public filings.
 
Number 6 narrowed it down but antiquity wasn't amongst what it excluded. The picture however set it in stine that it was a sci-fi game. Coupled with the copyright info and the leak that stellaris was aspace game we were left with two possible outcomes.
Augustus and stellaris is the same.
Paradox is workign on botha sci fi game and a spce game.
And since the first is simpler it wa smore likely.


hint 6 might not have completely ruled it out, but the chances of it being an antiquity game became exceedingly slim there.

I'll be honest, I kept hoping, but I didn't really believe it'd be a Antiquity game :)
 
OOPS:: THAT WAS JOHAN posting !

sharing pc at gamescom ftw!

I wonder if you share PCs when working at HoI / EU. That would explain some things...
 
Pretty much every hint had tons of people arriving at the correct conclusion, only to get railroaded by the paranoid\second-guesser party! :p

Funny thing, I never made the connection between the content of the quote itself and the leak: just that it was Blade Runner, so sci fi hurr durr.
 
3 and 7 in cosmology? Explain?
 
But obviously Rome "fanatics", or Romists to use the words of our little genius here, are just unreasonable children who deserve to be mocked for having a preference in settings, right? How dare they voice their desire for something they want?
Inconceivable, truly. Also, what an idiot.
Christ, get over yourself.