Burgundy is in good shape. France is in tatters, England barely survived, Poland is ruled by a madman, Hungary doesn't have a heir, and the German Kings have a habit to hang themselves.
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Jarkko Suvinen said:
Got any good daughters/granddaughters for William, because my concern is not with my Kingdom, but my dynasty, William is almost out of time to make kids...
I hereby declare a sum of AT LEAST 1000 ducats to whoever provides me with a good, fertile bride of good stats...
William de Hauteville's dynasty will live on. Robert the son of William has a horde of sons, some of them are good and others simply splendid. Where as my Williams line is in deep crap, cause the grandson that is going to inherit England one day has no living sons at all despite being 24 years old already, and he is the only son of my son (and not many more coming, with one of my sons having pneumonia and the other is crazy).
My William needs a young wife. He might still be able to spread his seed a bit despite being 61 years already. 8 years of mourning over his dead wife is enough
My William needs a young wife. He might still be able to spread his seed a bit despite being 61 years already. 8 years of mourning over his dead wife is enough
Jarkko Suvinen said:William de Hauteville's dynasty will live on. Robert the son of William has a horde of sons, some of them are good and others simply splendid. Where as my Williams line is in deep crap, cause the grandson that is going to inherit England one day has no living sons at all despite being 24 years old already, and he is the only son of my son (and not many more coming, with one of my sons having pneumonia and the other is crazy).
My William needs a young wife. He might still be able to spread his seed a bit despite being 61 years already. 8 years of mourning over his dead wife is enough
Nay, de Hauteville needs it more than de Normandie (odd, we're both named William).
BTW, anyone interested in a game about 24 hours before this one?
Gents. Don't be too hesitant to write to our AAR section. Not much action there so far
Jarkko Suvinen said:Gents. Don't be too hesitant to write to our AAR section. Not much action there so far
Hmh... The stories of Mad Piast of Poland... Would definetly be interesting to read. :rofl:
Where should Hyz continue? I doubt he wants to be Raoul King of Navarra, because he'll get spanked. Raoul's brother is a Capet and the current King of France, but he has no land in France itself.
We really could use a kingdom of Italy. Croatia and Scotland wouldn't be bad either. We *would* need somebody as the King of France, but the position is not any good and I bet the lands will be divided up between Burgundy, Germany, Scotland (if player controlled) and England (if she get's her internal problems fixed).
We really could use a kingdom of Italy. Croatia and Scotland wouldn't be bad either. We *would* need somebody as the King of France, but the position is not any good and I bet the lands will be divided up between Burgundy, Germany, Scotland (if player controlled) and England (if she get's her internal problems fixed).
The Scandinavians are still unclaimed too, and are a potentially lucrative area (not much interference from other players there, at least until Poland firmly gets into the Baltics ).
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Not for a while, I would imagine. I think the collapse of France and the crumbling state of England will do a good job of reminding us players the risks of expanding too quickly into Christian territory...
Patrucio said:
... and some of us are evil heretics and have no piety to offset BB accumulation.
Sterkarm said:
Oh, and didn't William de Hauteville become Papal controller during the latest session?
Yes he did.Solmyr said:Oh, and didn't William de Hauteville become Papal controller during the latest session?
Well, I think we should leave Scandinavia out *because* there is not much player-interferenceSolmyr said:The Scandinavians are still unclaimed too, and are a potentially lucrative area (not much interference from other players there, at least until Poland firmly gets into the Baltics
The point of a MP is to have player interference. Me and Hyz did have quite a lot of interference last session, first fighting a grim draw, then as allied fought the the Iberians and then fought separately for our lifes You others could have helped us or taken advantage of the situation, but you just let AI smack at us
Jarkko Suvinen said:You others could have helped us or taken advantage of the situation, but you just let AI smack at us
Well, that *is* player interference of a sort.
We let the AI smack you down so we can now pick up the pieces.
Scotland is involved in a host of small wars against her allies' rebelling vassals (I think in Sweeden, but I'm not sure exactly), but other than that she's in good shape. Those wars can be edited away. Croatia's been an NPC the whole game, but has also spent most of the game involved with various PC realms (notably, Naples and Hungary, and fought a war against Burgundy to a stand-still.) Denmark is a bit small, but borders upon Germany. I believe Denmark has done a good job of keeping their nose clean. If he decides to abandon his crumbling fortunes with the House of Capet, those three realms would probably be the best choices for Hyz. He should consider them, and then I'll mod his new character in for whichever one he picks.
For Hyz's and Sterk's benefit, I thought I would mention that we are considering bending the rules slightly. Solmyr's character is heirless, and Hungary stands to be inherited by someone not of his line. Normally, we would just let this happen and Solmyr would move on. However, the person who stands to inherit Hungary is the eldest son of King Wilhelm of Germany's eldest son. That, of course, means that Germany would inherit Hungary at some point in the future.
In the interest of game balance (ie- I don't know how fun it would be for everyone if Germany was suddenly x5 bigger than the next-largest PC realm), I'm willing to let Solmyr to switch to Elective inheritance for the duration of his current character's life-span so that Hungary can be inherited by one of Istvan's more distant relatives.
Solmyr would have to switch his inheritance laws in-game, and would have to switch them back to a semi-sallic law in-game, so Hungary will suffer a penalty for this special dispensation. Because Solmyr is willing to do this (and I'm willing to let my inheritance slip away in order to keep the game interresting,) Jarkko and Byak have said that they are OK with doing this. I am putting this here to make sure that you two are OK with this as well.
EDIT: Although, come to think of it, maybe Wilhem should demand compensation for this special dispensation. Venice is nice, I hear....
In the interest of game balance (ie- I don't know how fun it would be for everyone if Germany was suddenly x5 bigger than the next-largest PC realm), I'm willing to let Solmyr to switch to Elective inheritance for the duration of his current character's life-span so that Hungary can be inherited by one of Istvan's more distant relatives.
Solmyr would have to switch his inheritance laws in-game, and would have to switch them back to a semi-sallic law in-game, so Hungary will suffer a penalty for this special dispensation. Because Solmyr is willing to do this (and I'm willing to let my inheritance slip away in order to keep the game interresting,) Jarkko and Byak have said that they are OK with doing this. I am putting this here to make sure that you two are OK with this as well.
EDIT: Although, come to think of it, maybe Wilhem should demand compensation for this special dispensation. Venice is nice, I hear....
Well guys, I screwed up horrendously. I minimized the damage by giving away my entire demesne, with only 3 dukes remaining at a negative loyalty level, but then I tried to kill my daughter and regain the Duchy of Valencia so I could give it away again. With the fall of France, game balance is shot. France was the only one on par with Germany (though we were allied). I don't know what I should do; I can either continue as the Kingdom of France (which is really just the Duchy of Cordoba), or as the Kingdom of Aragon (which has lost all of its vassal shortly after being created).
Well, I don't think the game balance is that bad. Everybody got a good lesson from you and me (ie "How to cock up big time"), so I don't think we will see too fast expansion anywhere.Hyzhenhok said:
However, I do think for the game balance sake we should have either Italy, Denmark, Croatia or Scotland.
Scotland is pretty stable, but her opportunities are rather limited (altough Brittany is her vassal).
Italy is in a very good position, altough she is not in that good shape atm.
Denmark and Croatia are in good shape, but their potential is rather limited.
Should Venice be released as an independent republic? She alone is a *very* good source of manpower and income. Perhaps because Hungary is going elective Venice should elect to become free again?
Well, we have dedicated readers in the AAR section, it would be nice to give them other viewpoints too, not just de Normandy POVByakhiam said:
o Besides, I think especially Byak (the crazy Piast) and Hyz (flight of Ikaros... err... Raoul) do have material for excellent AAR's
Pat with his suicidal Kings, Sterk with his papacy issues and Solmyr with his problems to make the "shots" also are good ones for stories