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Could I possibly have Bohemond, Roger Borsa, and all my brothers appointed as counts (Bohemond preferrably as Duke of Burgougne, if I get that as a vassal) or in the courts of those who were appointed counts/dukes?

I'll see what I can do. Bohemond and R.B. can be ressurected and installed as counts, I think.

EDIT: Also, DNA for William is 05040211020306.

OK

And will we make secondary characters?

No.
 
I am against appointing Hautevilles as simple courtiers, because they would migrate into their brother's court in Burgundy, which would give Sterkarm advantage specifically removed from others, aka living relatives in own court.

They could be appointed counts, yes.

EDIT: Here's is a short checklist what all you need to do to properly make them counts:

1) Choose the count you wish to replace, take good note of the number. Preferably choose a direct vassal of the king.

2) Characters.inc: Remove deathdate entry from Bohemond and Roger Borsa, change their country into the correct counties. Put the following entry above their birthdate:
score = { gold = 25 prestige = 100 piety = 100 }

3) Characters.inc: Check who is the current count there, remove the score entry from him.

4) Titles.inc: Change the titleholders in correct counties to be R.B. and Bohemond.

5) Countries.inc: Change the rulers in correct counties to be R.B. and Bohemond.

6) Scenario.eug: (this is cosmetic change) Change the DNA of the counties to match R.B. and Bohemond.

To remember: Do not delete any characters.
 
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Bohemond-Duke of Burgougne
Roger Borsa-Count of Nice
 
Make him a count, not a duke. Especially as Bohemond, who has "too-good-to-be-true" stats would be first choice as successor under elective law, when duke of Bourgogne.
 
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Wülfgang of Frankonia
b. January 1st, 1048
King of Germany, 1065

Wülfgang was the second son and fourth child of Heinreich the Elder of Frankonia and Agnes de Acquitine of Poitieu. His father was Holy Roman Emperor, and King of Germany, Burgundy, and Italy. He was God's foremost secular champion, and Wülfgang was raised with the certain knowledge that he was the son of the greatest man alive. Heinreich the Elder kept his youngest son with him always, and often doted on the boy. Wülfgang's father taught him the history of his family, and the history of his people. The history Wülfgang was taught emphasized the glory his ancestors had brought to the German people, and the greatness promised Wülfgang by his birthright. Wülfgang's mother also doted on the boy, teaching him how to manage land and oversee pesants and serfs. Wülfgang proved to be an apt pupil.

Wülfgang's father was killed in battle in the year 1056, when Wülfgang was eight years of age. He died in battle against the King of France, contesting an inheritance of the province of Languendoc. Heinreich the Elder posthumously carried the day, and the Capets of France were forced to surrender both Languendoc and Bourgogne to the Emperor- though Germany was forced in turn to compensate the French with the Duchy of Upper Lorraine. Wülfgang took the death of his father hard, and became a sullen boy.

Wülfgang's older brother, Heinreich the Younger, assumed the throne at the age of 21. He was a capable soldier, but less skillful a politician. Conflict soon arose between the King of the Germans and the Bishop of Rome over the former's Crown. Heinreich the Younger felt that the mantle of Holy Roman Emperor was his birthright, while the Pope saw things differently. Harsh words were exchanged, and the Pope took the dramatic step of excommunicating the German King in order to repudiate what the Bishop of Rome saw as Heinreich's excessive arrogance and impudence.

Heinreich the Younger had always been a pious man, and took the declaration very hard. Young Wülfgang, already embittered by his father's death the previous year, saw only cynical politics. He was enfuriated by what he saw as a slight against the honor of the noblest House in all of Christendom, but as a boy of 9 years was incapable of doing anything about it. As depression set in for Heinreich, the Pope took to encouraging dissatisfied nobles in the south of the Empire to cast off the rule of King Heinreich. Rebellion soon burned throughout the south, and Heinreich the Younger was forced to set aside his personal malaise and fight those who would deft his rule.

The French, eager to avenge the stinging defeat of the previous year, eagerly supported the rebelling nobles. To the south, the House of de Hauteville sided with the German King, hoping that they would be granted further holdings in Italy by the Emperor in exchange for their martial service. As Heinreich mustered his armies, he also recieved word that the Premsylids of Bohemia had also rebelled against Heinreich's rule, recieving support from the Piasts of Poland. With his de Hauteville allies pushing up from the south, Heinreich decided to settle with Bohemia first.
Heinreich won a series of battles against the Premsylids in 1059 and 1060, and started to besiege their castles when he received word that the King of Naples had been annhiliated in battle. Heinreich abandoned his siege and raced back west, where the joint army of Burgundy and Italy mere marching north. Heinreich met the host near the village of Markdorf in Briesgau on June 15th, 1061, a few scant miles from the Bodensee. There, in a fierce clash, Heinreich was soundly defeated. With his armies exhausted, Heinreich was forced to accept the peace terms of the rebel leaders, and recognized the independence of Burgundy, Italy, and Bohemia as Kings of Christendom.

After his defeat at the Battle of Markdorf, Heinreich was a broken man. He retired to a private castle in Württemberg, where he spent the remainder of his days. After the defeat in the War of Cecession, young Wülfgang began to take a greater hand in the governance of Germany. As soon as he came of age in 1064, his brother appointed him Steward. Wülfgang soon became the only courtier Heinreich had any interest in seeing. Not even Heinreich the Younger’s wife was allowed to see him.

In September of 1065, Heinreich became despondant. He called for Wülfgang, and have him one last command as his King. After Wülfgang agreed to what his brother said, Heinreich ended his own life. Dispite Heinreich’s status as an excommunicated suicide, Wülfgang demanded and received a Catholic burial.

Wülfgang was crowned King of Germany on November 15th, 1065.
 
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Bohemond-Duke of Burgougne
Roger Borsa-Count of Nice

Bohemond is Count of Venaissin. Roger Borsa is Count of Saluces.
 
The save file can be found at:

http://www.cutestgirlintheworld.com/Kings.zip

It'll show up in your scenarios as "A Game of Thrones". If Caserluj submits a character in time, I will edit the character in and tell you to download the new version. If he doesn't, he's stuck with malcolm Dunkelkind.
 
After running it a decade, it looks pretty good.

However, Sterk's character needs to be reworked a bit. Because of his Kinslayer trait and low diplomacy, Burgundy falls apart within a decade ala 1.02. His character can't get married, despite all other player-made characters successfully doing so. I definately suggest you remove Kinslayer and replace it with something like illness, or remove Kinslayer and Suspicious and use two +1 negative traits. A slight rework of stats might be necessary too.

Also, my character should be age 21 and not 19 at scenario start.
 
I admit I made the miscounting on your char's age. He should have been 20 at game start and 21 in january. I thought it would have been better than having a guy that fills 22 when we are few days in.

Please change Bertrand's (id = 50000) birthyear to 1046 Patrucio.

Both I and Jarkko have noted Sterkarm's character's problem to him before and he has modified his character already once. Besides, it just needs Sterkarm to run his kingdom on zero scutage, hope for good chancellors and occasionally send gifts to most rebellious lads.
 
This is my history followe by my stats. Sry for bad english.

Finally I, Wallace Stuart, complete 16 years old and now am able to become King of Scotish and Gaelic Kingdom. I grow up listening to the story of the unifaction the my kindom done by my father and y grandfather.

They were heroes! Inicially they fought the vickings that were well stabilished here in our country. A cruel war happend with a lot of loses, but we could retake Orkney and Shetland and exples those bastards to them cold lands again.

When we finally won the vikings, my grandfahter managed to make my father marry the oldest irish daughter. This make my father inherit Ireland and Britanny when the king of Ireland dead.

My father had a dream during his life: Unify all Gaelics into one Kingdom and he porsued this while he lived. So he did a lot of actions to make the irish, scotish and britanny to like each other. And he was successful. At the end of his life the kingdom was united and, for his surprise the king od Wales asked to join the crown.

When he die I still was a child, now I am the king of one of the most important Kingdom in Europe... Thanks father.



Wallace Stuart
Age:16
M: 8
D: 8
I: 3
S: 9
H: 6
F: 6

Brillant Strategist, Wise and Valorous
 
Hmm, well I suppose I will change the traits, if he can't get married (I was hoping for a "Your Sins have not gone Unnoticed" event).

EDIT: Casluerj, your character is a bit gamey there. First off, he's 16, secondly, he has the best possible traits, and they aren't allowed. That would total 9 traitpoints, and you can only use 4. Go to the MP forum, find the character-making rules thread, and look in there for info.
 
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Sterkarm said:
Hmm, well I suppose I will change the traits, if he can't get married (I was hoping for a "Your Sins have not gone Unnoticed" event).

10% chance on removing kinslayer in that... And huge cost prestige- and moneywise. Also it hurts your health and stuff. Don't build your game on that.

On other experience when I got "Kinslayer" after killing my wife in SP, I never got remarried, not even while I was a count with nice amount of prestige and years of trying...
 
Sterkarm said:
EDIT: Casluerj, your character is a bit gamey there. First off, he's 16, secondly, he has the best possible traits, and they aren't allowed. That would total 9 traitpoints, and you can only use 4. Go to the MP forum, find the character-making rules thread, and look in there for info.

There are other characters that are 16 too, there's nothing wrong with that if you have a good backstory to fit that (like you inherit the kingdom, instead of conquering it).

You are right about Traitpoints though, seems like Cas forgot that only 4 traitpoints for char.
 
Byakhiam said:
There are other characters that are 16 too, there's nothing wrong with that if you have a good backstory to fit that (like you inherit the kingdom, instead of conquering it).

You are right about Traitpoints though, seems like Cas forgot that only 4 traitpoints for char.

Well, an age of 16 AND great traits make it seem like he's almost trying to create a superchar ;).
 
As far as birthdays go, I had been giving people random birthdays. Hyzen's character, for example, had september 11th as his birthday (that's the day my wife and i wed), sterk had april 1st (my mom's b-day), and byak had march 15 (beware idea of march...). I left mine as january 1st, but that's only because that's my actual birthday (I was born January 1, 1977.)

if any of you have requests for when you want your character's birthday to be, try to post them before I get all the mods done. :D

As for Caserluj, unless/until he corrects his stats (and I think it was more due to misunderstanding than anything else- I'm sure I would have built my character wrong if the rules had been written in German, even though I would have gotten the gist of them), I'll just lower his military ed by 1 and pick out two non-offensive 0-point traits that fit the "nice guy" theme of his character.
 
Sterkarm said:
Well, an age of 16 AND great traits make it seem like he's almost trying to create a superchar ;).

And taking Kinslayer in the hopes of getting "Your Sins Have Not Gone Unnoticed" isn't trying to create a superchar? :D

Cas's character is very nice and much better balanced than some I have seen. Weak intrigue though, but one can live with that.
 
Patrucio said:
if any of you have requests for when you want your character's birthday to be, try to post them before I get all the mods done. :D

December 26th of course. ;)

Nah, march 15th is good.

EDIT: Though you need to check that years are the correct, because I made some characters to be born so that they are 5 days below their designated age and born on january 1, due to reasons given in my reply to Hyz bit earlier.

EDIT2: Can you change my brother Boson's (id = 50004) education from Hole in the Pocket to Detached Priest? It would suit my backstory better.
 
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OK. The scenario has been finalized, so download it again. It should all be in working order.

Changes between this one and the version you have:

* Birthdays and Ages fiddled with, so they should all be correct now.
* Wallace Stewart is now the Gaelic King (incidentally, his traits are Knowledgable Tactician, Merciful, and Modest)
* Boson (brother to the King of Naples) is now a detached priest
* Malcom Dunkeld (old King of Scotland) and family have moved and become the Dukes of Atholl, supplanting Malcom's younger brother.

I'll see you all tonight!
 
Wait was my character changed?! I made edits to the post on the third page, I thought my post on this page said that... please make those changes. :(