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I am delighted to see my effect is spreading through out the boards, everything is proceeding as I have forseen.

That aside I have finally caught up and am impressed at your efforts, while being saddened (if in no way surprised) that the Little Entente faired so badly and that there was no new Balkan League. However this does suggest that you quite happily hit Persia safe in the knowledge the AI will do bugger all about it, and as others have pointed out better to get that done and in the bank nice and early. Another plus point would be the Red Sea ports which you'd expect to remain safely Allied (unless things are going horrifically wrong) and so could provide an alternative route for trade should the Italians extract too high a price on any Mediterranean convoys.
:) Turkey decided to achieve the Little Entente by other means ;). Prince Paul was too busy removing fence splinters from his fundament to join, so alternate history has now passed him by. At least the young King Peter is trying to make a fight of it.

Looks like the assembled Gods of WAAR have pronounced their doom on the Persians! That's at least three thumbs down for them from my Dear Readers! I may just have to leave the defence of the Balkans largely in the hands of our Romanian allies :confused: (and the subtle persuasion of Luca Brasi :mad:) while the fascist-leaning Persians get an offer they don't refuse! Case Green = the Moe Green treatment for them, I think!

Cabinet will reconsider Case Green when the war in Yugoslavia is settled. Something to look forward to in the new year of 1938! I agree El Pip, those weak appeasers of the Axis just don't seem willing to stand up to the new Behemoth of the Balkans :D.

Still hoping to get another quick update out before I travel again on Wednesday: it will cover the 'bloody business' of pocket-closing and positioning to seize the last two Yugoslav vp cities. This, like the war in Greece, will probably be fighting against now-mobilised enemies and at the end of long supply lines. Nothing for it than to grind on with my loyal foot soldiers.
 
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"Always two there are. No more, no less. A master and an apprentice."

Of course this is true but beware, masters tend to die just after the plan comes into its final stage.


Indeed. Especially when you remember that the Allies are probably going to lose a lot of their oil supply in the Far East (and possibly in the Middle East too depending on how the Mediterranean war goes), having a plentiful amount of the stuff can be useful.

Of course, all might go well, you might take Persia, the war may not begin immediately and thus you have time to make a lot of stuff well-defended.
Quite so. The interesting tragedy of Darth Plagueis comes to mind!

The Persia Question: You may have noticed an aggressive brand of optimism has so far governed Turkish strategic discourse. This generally leads to increasingly risky bets being made until you lose it all! Will closely consider Persia, straws and camels' backs ;)
 
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Looks like the assembled Gods of WAAR have pronounced their doom on the Persians!
Always wanted to build a pantheon.

I may just have to leave the defence of the Balkans largely in the hands of our Romanian allies :confused:
Can you tell that we're all decadent western empire builders? I think our privilege and bias towards expansion is showing through justa touch...

I agree El Pip, those weak appeasers of the Axis just don't seem willing to stand up to the new Behemoth of the Balkans

Mm...well considering your advice is coming from
a) someone who fights with swords and knows far more about pre-1900 history than modern stuff.
and
b) a guy whose work is by design very nearly devoid of consequence due to the slowness of time

I might at least believe the AI capable of doing something smart at least once in a while. After all, fascists do have a history of being 'no threat' and declaring war seemingly out of nowhere.

Mind you, adopting the strategy of incredible optimism until something goes wrong sounds pretty good as well and certainly more entertaining. You're minor power in a Paradox game. Be ballsy or go home.
 
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Can you tell that we're all decadent western empire builders? I think our privilege and bias towards expansion is showing through justa touch...
And there I was trying to masquerade as an old-fashioned Eastern imperialist ;). I still haven't reached the gates of Vienna so still have a way to go to the Ottoman high water mark, and haven't even started in the ME!
Always wanted to build a pantheon ....

Mm...well considering your advice is coming from
a) someone who fights with swords and knows far more about pre-1900 history than modern stuff.
and
b) a guy whose work is by design very nearly devoid of consequence due to the slowness of time
Ouch - war between the Gods :eek:! Best watched from the sidelines :D.
Mind you, adopting the strategy of incredible optimism until something goes wrong sounds pretty good as well and certainly more entertaining. You're minor power in a Paradox game. Be ballsy or go home.
Indeed - the only course of action. Didn't build this mini-empire not to use it! The difference between boldness and rashness in a general is judgement (and a bit of luck). But courage is mandatory!
 
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"Always two there are. No more, no less. A master and an apprentice."

Of course this is true but beware, masters tend to die just after the plan comes into its final stage.
Then I have many decades as Butterfly Effect is nowhere near finished. I would also like it formally recorded that Darth Sidious/The Emperor was an idiot for not building a rapid effect kill-switch into Vader's suit, it was the obvious move especially as he, of all people, should have known about the unreliability of apprentices. You may rest assured I will not be making similar unforced errors.

Swerving back to the topic, it is my experience that you can never go wrong by under-estimating the diplomatic AI in HOI3, it is all but unable to react to threats or countries going off the rails, especially if they are minors. This is a game mainly designed to ensure the player can make Germany can win a WW2 analogue, as long as you don't threaten that you are almost always fine.
 
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This is a game mainly designed to ensure the player can make Germany can win a WW2 analogue, as long as you don't threaten that you are almost always fine.

Yeah...I noticed that. To glance through the forums isn't to look upon several hundred records of the axis powers and Germany in particular doing everything right an fighting incompetent enemies till the reich rules everywhere...which I have to admit, despite the neutral-ish stance the game has towards facists is pretty disturbing. At least withthe soviets, you might be able to sort of argue that perhaps, maybe, that if communism ruled everywhere then it would be a little bit better than RL SU.

If the AI is so ddisposed however, I say take advantage. It makes some lore sense that the two axis powers next to you are somewhat scared of fighting the unexpected new power in the east, at least, without given support by the Germans (which given Hitler's priorities, will never happen as he wants the west and the Russians dead first). So yeah, go after Persia. Build the eastern Roman Empire better than the last from the off.
 
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Yeah...I noticed that. To glance through the forums isn't to look upon several hundred records of the axis powers and Germany in particular doing everything right an fighting incompetent enemies till the reich rules everywhere...which I have to admit, despite the neutral-ish stance the game has towards facists is pretty disturbing. At least withthe soviets, you might be able to sort of argue that perhaps, maybe, that if communism ruled everywhere then it would be a little bit better than RL SU.

If the AI is so ddisposed however, I say take advantage. It makes some lore sense that the two axis powers next to you are somewhat scared of fighting the unexpected new power in the east, at least, without given support by the Germans (which given Hitler's priorities, will never happen as he wants the west and the Russians dead first). So yeah, go after Persia. Build the eastern Roman Empire better than the last from the off.
Yes, the War Party holds much sway in Ankara these days. Their trigger fingers are itching already ;).
 
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Chapter 35: The Hard Yards (29 November to 3 December 1937)
Chapter 35: The Hard Yards (29 November to 3 December 1937)

Introduction. This will be a shorter and more concise update, principally focusing on the battle diary as Turkey and Romania continue the hard work of closing off the Serbian Pocket; holding ground in the west awaiting relief; and the progress of some important positional battles in the central and northern sectors to consolidate the front and push west to Sarajevo.

The general situation as we resume, at 0200 on 29 Nov 37, is summarised in the map below.

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General situation in Yugoslavia as at 0200 on 29 Nov 37.

Some observations in summary:

1. The Serbian Pocket is shrunk down but still needs to be eliminated. An attack has been ordered to halt an attempted Yugoslavian breakout to the south-west from Surdulica, but battle has not yet been joined, with 17 Inf Div on the way and HQ 2nd Corps standing by if needed to reinforce. Romanian forces are also closing in from the north to help secure the pocket.

2. In the Adriatic sector, 3 Cav Div has had to retreat south to Ljubinje from Nevesinje, forced to break off their bold attack on Sarajevo by superior Yugoslav forces. 15 Inf Div is now racing back to contest Nevesinje with the advancing enemy. If they can reach Nevesinje and hold there, they hope to last until reinforcements arrive from the main front to the east, where 1st Corps has broken out in the centre after winning the critical Battle of Visegrad.

3. In the centre, units from 1st and 2nd Corps have joined and are now advancing to the west from Visegrad and further south. The enemy now seems to be on the run, falling back to the west in general disorganisation, but with the Turkish Air Force grounded it is not clear whether more fresh Yugoslavian units are advancing from the west.

4. In the north, 1 Mtn Div has secured Semska Mitrovica. Enemy units in Ruma, the last province directly threatening Beograd, are now almost surrounded as Romanian units advance on a broad front from the east. 7 Inf Div and the heavily reinforced HQ 1st Corps (with 3 x INF) are fresh and ready to move from Beograd, where Inönü has advised that an attack to force the enemy out of Ruma is imminent.

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Luca Brasi’s smiling face, easy-going manner and gentle techniques of persuasion continue to motivate the Romanian commanders to get as far away from him as possible. They consider the battlefront to be far safer.

29 Nov 37 (D+31)

0200. Inönü immediately orders his own HQ 1st Corps and Gurzlin’s 7 Inf Div into battle against the Yugoslavian concentration in Ruma. It is time to drive the enemy away from Beograd and join the push west. The Romanians are obligingly attacking their only escape route to the north in Novi Sad.

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1100. In the centre, 11 Inf Div attacks Kolasin and only finds the enemy’s HQ 1st Army. They win the walkover battle with no casualties on either side by 1400 and continue advancing west.

1900. In Ruma, the attack is going in over a river, on a hills province against entrenched units. The initial odds are not favourable (19% in favour of the enemy), so 1 Mtn Div is ordered to support the attack from the west from Semska Mitrovica. Inönü is leading the battle in person, using ‘shock’ tactics on a mixture of one fresh Yugoslavian Infantry division (the 20th) and the two battered garrison divisions that had earlier been ejected from Beograd.

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2100. The arrival of 1 Mtn Div two hours later makes a big difference to the odds, but will not change the combat unless they reinforce successfully. The two tired garrison divisions will not last long.

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30 Nov 37 (D+32)

0000. 1 Cav Div arrives in Užice, with organisation now well on the way to recovery, but still very low on supplies and fuel. As soon as they are ready, they will be launched west to try to outflank Yugoslavian defences on the way to Sarajevo and Split.

0400. The odds in Ruma are now up to 97% in our favour. The enemy infantry and one of the garrison divisions are attempting to flee north. The Romanians had sealed off this group by occupying Novi Sad, and are now turning back to head off the Yugoslavians by covering Ada again. This is very nimble work by the AI in direct support of our operations: our compliments once again to the Romanian High Command! 1 Mtn Div is now pulled out of the attack on Ruma, to prepare for its next task, whatever that may be, but currently holding in Semska Mitrovica.

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1100. Muzir’s 1 Mtn Div is soon attacked in Semska Mitrovica by the enemy 1st Cav Div. Perhaps they are trying to relieve their surrounded comrades in Ruma. This is quite a strong attack, though Muzir looks to be in control. By 1900 the battle is well set, while the enemy in Ruma all appear to be trying to escape.

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1 Dec 37 (D+33)

0400. It appears the two Yugoslavian garrison units that were attempting to escape have been turned back, with the battle rejoined in Ruma. At least they are no longer entrenched. The Romanians have done their job well to the north and have blocked any enemy escape in that direction.

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1600. Down in the south, 17 Inf Div has finally made contact with the Yugoslavian 7th Div in Surdulica, where they are tasked with stopping the enemy from escaping the Serbian Pocket. The Romanians have also closed on their defensive objective in Kumanovo to further block the enemy escape route: more evidence of the ‘Brasi Effect’ :D. Because of the borderline odds and a desire to finish things off as soon as possible so they can redeploy, Artunkal soon orders his own HQ 2nd Corps to reinforce the attack.

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2100. The second battle of Ruma is won: we never received the casualty report from the first part of the battle, but this time round Turkey lost 24 troops and the enemy 41. While the enemy all appear to be trying to retreat, but it looks like they are cut off and will all ‘go in the bag’ eventually.

2 Dec 37 (D+34)

At 0400, a type of report is received that has not so far been heard often at the Turkish High Command this year: “We have lost the province of Nevesinje to the despicable Yugoslavia. We must reacquire it! No sooner is that report received than 15 Inf Div, who have been advancing that way for some time, attempt to do just this. The Second Battle of Nevesinje is joined! It will be a bloody affair by the looks of it.

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1100. Back in the Central sector, while 11 Inf Div still advances on Kolasin from Plav and various Romanian units respond to calls to reinforce the western push, a mix of 1st and 2nd Corps units once again take up the offensive. 1 Inf Div strikes towards Vlasenica and 5 Inf Div to Rudo, while 1 Cav Div is ordered forward to Pljevlja behind 5 Inf Div.

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Resupply is now an important factor in the advance. We need to take extra precautions in recently occupied territory, though no partisan activities have been detected yet. A Turkish supply convoy moves through the front lines to Visegrad, December 1937.

In Surdulica, the battle continues. HQ 2nd Corps remains in reserve. More Romanian units respond to orders and close in on the Pocket from the north.

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3 Dec 37 (D+35)

0600. Progress in Nevesinje remains slow, but 15 Inf Div is in good condition while the enemy 13th Div looks to be tiring. The odds remain in the defender’s favour, however 15 Inf Div look like they can maintain the attack for some time yet, fixing the Yugoslavs in place while reinforcements approach from the east. Tactics have reverted to the basics after an initial flourish by both sides.

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And in Semska Mitrovica, a surprisingly strong and persistent attack on 1 Mtn Div is finally repulsed. The enemy 1st Cav Div now appears to be retreating from Backa Palanka south-west to Brcko.

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While back in Surdulica, HQ 2nd Corps has now reinforced, which should finally lead to the defences of the Yugoslav 7th Div (which has proven a tough unit to beat) to crack, though there is still plenty of fight left in them for now.

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2100. 7 Inf Div arrives in Ruma and moves on to Semska Metrovica. This means a two-province zone has now been cleared all around Beograd, freeing up forces to join the fight to the north and west.

Conclusion

That concludes this shorter and more battle-focused update. The next one will take the war diary further forward and provide another general progress report on operations and a campaign summary map.

Coming Up: We contemplate giving Luca Brasi honorary rank in the Romanian Army :). Braanszon and Persephonee are set to thinking up new names for the expanding Turkish empire for announcement once this latest war is won and the Balkans secured for controlled truth, stern justice and the Turkish Way! The war drags on – will the troops be home soon? And will they finally get some leave, or will the Cabinet decide Persia should be paid a ‘fraternal visit’ in the new year? All this and more when your humble interlocutor returns from his next RL overseas mission!
 
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Well, it is a tedious affair when the terrain is an added enemy. Encirclements are difficult enough when using like troops and Yugoslavia is not a small country for a Minor.

Good that Romania is playing a bigger part now and this should make most of your generals much more skilled.

Oh and that picture.:D Romanian General: "You know, I feel like leaving my secluded mountain retreat and it's excellent food & wine. I feel compelled to make a very long hike through the mountains of Yugoslavia for some reason".
 
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The Turks should stop dicking around and finish these Balkan fools! I blame the Romanians, it isn't clear they have no desire to invade Persia lest they get sunburn. Cowards! We should annex them completely and look for another unsuspecting nation to become the Republic's attack dog/canon fodder.
 
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Nothing much to add to that, Yugoslavia is proving a slog but there is nothing obvious you can do about that. I think you will just have to grind it out.
 
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Yes, thanks all for your comments: even when you attack at every opportunity mountains, an inf-only army and no air support means it takes time. But all goes well: that was just a four day period and there was movement and success. Bagging those three enemy divs in Ruma (they will have to surrender) was useful, not only removing them but freeing up forces to strike west. And the elimination of the Serbian Pocket will allow those units to strat deploy north as well.

Have no fear, the icy cold of the Yugoslavian mountains can be swapped for the sand and sun of the south soon enough!
 
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Subscribed, this is all nicely done.

Looking at the diplomatic situation, I think it's safe to say that the Allies will not be making any sudden moves against Turkey in the future, between their higher neutrality and bigger threat from Germany. The Soviets, despite your, ah, pact, might be a bit of an issue as they may feel threatened into aggressive moves by Germany but the main threat is indeed the Axis.

I wonder if it would be the best strategy to focus on providing border security through 1938 and 1939, and "if" a big war just so happens to start in Europe which distracts everyone else, that might be the best time to make a quick trip to the grocery store and stop in Tehran on the way home. ;)
 
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Subscribed, this is all nicely done.

Looking at the diplomatic situation, I think it's safe to say that the Allies will not be making any sudden moves against Turkey in the future, between their higher neutrality and bigger threat from Germany. The Soviets, despite your, ah, pact, might be a bit of an issue as they may feel threatened into aggressive moves by Germany but the main threat is indeed the Axis.

I wonder if it would be the best strategy to focus on providing border security through 1938 and 1939, and "if" a big war just so happens to start in Europe which distracts everyone else, that might be the best time to make a quick trip to the grocery store and stop in Tehran on the way home. ;)
Thanks for the patronage :). Towards the end of this current war the Cabinet will again have to make some decisions - which is what I've liked so far, there's always something to decide and some genuine choices.

Am currently sitting in an aircraft on a tarmac, waiting for a landing bay :mad:, then another flight before getting home :). After a little recovery time I should be back into AARland again ;).
 
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Chapter 36: ‘A Mountain of Pain’ (4 to 9 December 1937)
Chapter 36: ‘A Mountain of Pain’ (4 to 9 December 1937)

Prologue: 4 Dec 37, Ankara

Braanszon Guildenstern has been summoned to Armaments (and Propaganda) Minister Calistar’s private office.

“Guildenstern, I have a top-secret task for you. It is critical to the future of Turkey.” Braanszon merely raises one eyebrow slightly and waits for his boss to continue. The personal image must be maintained.

Calistar, himself somewhat discomfited by the cool presence of his advertiser-and-propaganda-guru, starts to babble a little. “The Cabinet has decided that the national title of the Greater Turkish Republic, which we only took on earlier this year, may not stand the test of time. After four wars and a walkover, we need to make our title even greater!”

“I see,” the ever-laconic BJ says quietly. “What’s the brief? When do you need it by?”

“We have two choices,” Calistar says. “Either to celebrate the new year and our expected victory over Yugoslavia. Or later, when we plan to join the Comintern in a few years.”

“Well, I think two new names for the nation in less than a year sounds a bit wannabe and insecure. Let’s go for something to mark the new era,” Guildenstern replies. He thinks to himself that the day his employer formally aligns with the Communists is the day after he left on an airliner back to New York. He feels almost physically ill contemplating working in that kind of environment. Even an unashamed ethical mercenary with no moral compass has his limits! “I recommend we do this right and unveil the new moniker on the great day Turkey declares for our Communist brothers. I’ll get to work on it.”

As Guildenstern turns to leave, Calistar looks up from his desk and adds, “Oh, and by the way, we need something imaginative and with a bit of flair and originality. Not something from one of those hackneyed Communist national random name generators." He looks at Guildenstern pointedly, seeking to regain the ascendancy: "If we wanted that kind of dross, we’d hire a thousand chimps to type randomly on a thousand typewriters for a thousand days and take the best name they came up with. Rather than paying you in large amounts of cash, whisky and Cuban cigars.”

BJ forces himself not to break stride as he strolls coolly out of the office, “Of course not, would never dream of it. Only the best for you, Minister.”

Damn! He thinks to himself. That’s his first idea out the window, given he’d estimated it would be at least a thousand days until Turkey was ready to make the leap to the dull World of Socialism.

This could take some doing: an imaginative and original name for a communist-aligned state? Well, at least it would be a world first. “Persephonee!” he calls as gets back to his top floor corner office and pours himself a large bourbon. “Get out your easel. We’ve been given the greatest challenge in the history of propaganda-advertising!”

4 Dec 37 (D+36)

0800. The Battle of Surdulica, which began on 1 December, will clearly be the decisive action in the Serbian Pocket. The hard-charging enemy 7th Division has fought tooth and nail to first escape the pocket, and now to survive for as long as possible, in the hope of a miracle. But by dawn, we have received reports that the Romanian 19th Inf Div has now joined the battle from Medveda, while Romanian TAC bombers are also hitting the enemy positions. Apparently, word was received by Romanian commanders at the front that Luca Brasi was considering a field visit to see whether Romanian support for our gallant Turkish forces was up to standard!

1000. Victory in Surdulica! This has been one of the hardest fought battles of the campaign, with heavy casualties on both sides. 17 Inf Div have led the way, taken the heaviest casualties, and will justly receive a unit battle honour for their efforts.

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Artunkal now orders HQ 2nd Corps to head to Nis to cut off enemy forces attempting to break out of the Pocket in that direction. The Romanians are also now advancing south to close off enemy escape routes to Knjazevac [which very appropriately sounds a little like it could be Serbian for ‘casevac’].

1200. In the Central sector, 1 Cav Div, now fully supplied and almost reorganised after its earlier heavy fighting, arrives in Pljevlja and is ordered on to the mountain province of Niksic. From there, they hope to keep pushing west, joining up with their Adriatic sector comrades at Ljublinje.

1700. 1 Cav Div wins a walkover battle against a fleeing enemy HQ in Niksic. The enemy retreats south, where they will be met by a mix of advancing Romanian and Turkish forces pushing across from the east.

2100. HQ 1st Corps arrives in Ruma and will now push on west to Zvornik via Sabac, seeking the path of least resistance to the west.

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During the day, thousands of retreating Yugoslavian troops, earlier surrounded in Ruse have been surrendering.

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4 Dec 37. Disconsolate Yugoslavian troops march off to internment after their earlier defeat in Ruse.

5 Dec 37 (D+37)

0700. The weather is becoming very cold, with storms and rain, especially in the mountains. The 2nd Battle of Nevesinje continues under miserable conditions. Gataly’s 15 Inf Div is determined to avenge the anguish of defeat suffered by their gallant 3 Cav Div comrades (who are still retreating south to Ljublinje along winding mountain roads) just a short time before. The troops have joked darkly that ‘Nevesinje’ must be Serbian for ‘A Mountain of Pain’. They also subscribe to the old adage that ‘it is better to give than to receive’. In this, they seem to be slowly succeeding.

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The mountains in Nevesinje. Picturesque in peacetime perhaps, but a harsh winter battlefield.

1300. And ironically, Turkey’s only specialist mountain division finds itself in the open plains of Semska Mitrovica, where they have now reorganised sufficiently following their recent battle there to be ordered to resume the march west, where they have been ordered to make a difficult river crossing to attack Tuzla. It will be some time before they can expect any support, with HQ 1st Corps still days away from arriving in Zvornik to open up a second flank on Tuzla. Without doubt, much blood will be spilt before then. To the north, the Romanians continue to quite effectively cover the northern flank of the advance.

By 2100, 1 Mtn Div has commenced the Battle of Tuzla against the Yugoslavian 15th Div. The odds are again difficult with the river attack, meaning the casualty rate will be proportionally higher. But attacking before the enemy is set means they have not had time to entrench. Another battle to be ground out.

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6 Dec 37 (D+38)

1200. 1 Cav Div wins another walkover battle in Niksic: this time (by the numbers involved – around 8200 enemy troops) it seems to be an infantry division, which also looks to be moving south-east. All the other battles in the Adriatic and Central sectors continue unabated.

7 Dec 37 (D+39)

0100. Surdulica has finally been occupied, with 17 Inf Div brushing away a pathetically manned enemy 1st Corps HQ that must have been trying to slip into the province earlier. The Pocket is nearly eliminated now.

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0700. A welcome technical advance – this will assist our surprisingly effective cavalry units, but more importantly is a small step to hoping one day to develop the technology for motorised infantry to match with the licensed armour we hope to build up.

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In another optimistic gesture, we commence our first ever air doctrine development, where we will try to bring our fighter pilot training up to 1918 standards! While we will be relying on imported aircraft for our future expanded Air Force, we can at least train our pilots to be more effective. Their difficulties against the Yugoslavian Air Force were there for all to see.

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1600. Another day, another walkover victory for 1 Cav Div in Niksic. An Army HQ this time: this remote mountain province seems to be a popular Yugoslavian escape route!

Meanwhile, in the ‘Mountains of Pain’, the fight in Nevesinje is now clearly turning in Turkey’s favour.

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The town of Nevesinje, now in sight of 15 Inf Div’s lead elements as they press home the attack.

And in Tuzla, the fight remains hard. While the odds still appear difficult, once again the enemy is losing organisation quicker than Muzir’s Mountaineers.

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8 Dec 37 (D+40)

1200. Namut’s 5 Inf Div arrives in Rudo and now drives on to an as-yet unoccupied Sarajevo! The pincers are closing on another potential pocket, as anticipated all those days ago in Inönü’s HQ 1st Corps. To the north, 1 and 3 Inf Divs have almost arrived in the unoccupied Vlasenica. Cakmak’s 1 Inf Div will lead the drive on Split to the west, while Karabekir’s weakened 3 Inf Div (still not recovered from the Battle of Visegrad) will pause to secure the flank, regain organisation and wait for reinforcing Turkish and Romanian troops to catch up from the east.

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9 Dec 37 (D+41)

0100. The enemy pull out of Nevesinje in the early hours of the morning – they appear to be retreating west to Konjic, but could be heading for Sarajevo, where they would receive a hot reception from Namut’s 5 Inf Div advance guard. 15 Inf Div has paid a heavy price for the ‘Mountains of Pain’, but this is an important battle that kept the enemy stalled while reinforcements fought their way across from the east. Another battle honour for the Fighting 15th.

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In Tuzla, the latest update reveals a similar story – a hard fight with difficult odds but likely victory in sight. Romanian divisions are in support and advancing to the north and south.

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In his latest periodic report back to Ankara, Inönü summarises the advances made by 1st Corps, 2nd Corps and the supporting Romanians since the beginning of the campaign. He also notes major battles fought since the last comprehensive general campaign report to Cabinet on 29 November [ie. summarising this chapter and the last].

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An important technological advance is made that will speed our offensives:

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A surplus of available spies leads us to redistribute our leadership. The chart below shows ‘before and after’ LS distribution, with more for research (to six full techs at once) and officers (now up to 104% - of course we would like it higher). Manpower remains steady at 63 – reinforcements seem to be roughly keeping pace with casualties. Central planning research commences – we would eventually like to achieve Grand Battle Plan.

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Epilogue: Bucharest, 9 Dec 37

It is a proud day for Luca Brasi: he is promoted to Honorary Captain (or 'Capo' as he likes to call it) in the Romanian Army. A special reception is held at the Turkish Embassy. This is a time for the Romanian General Staff to practice their best imitation of sincerity as they smile, wish him well, discreetly hand over envelopes stuffed with lira and then hastily go on their way.

The Ambassador, Vatan (or 'Vito') Ceylan leans in close to Brasi – a man of notoriously few words – and says softly to him, “These Romanian pissants, you know you can’t trust them. Just remember Luca, keep your friends close, and your enemies closer.”

“Wise words, boss,” Luca replies, shrugging his shoulders slightly to adjust his shoulder holster. “When they send for you, you go in alive, you come out dead, and it's your best friend that does it.” Luca then smiles (the camera clicks at that moment), “Good thing I don’t have no friends!”

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9 Dec 37. Luca Brasi, pictured with the Turkish Ambassador to Romania Vatan 'Vito' Ceylan,
having just been ‘made’ an honorary Captain in the Romanian Army. This is the only known
photo of Luca Brasi smiling. Somehow, seeing this rare facial abnormality didn’t make any of
his Romanian colleagues feel any better.

Coming up: Peace? Persia? Persuasion? Production? Politics? Questions, questions, questions! While it seems like the war in Yugoslavia (and needless alliteration) has been going a long time, it’s not even been a month and a half yet, fighting against a large country with a superior air force in tough terrain, so the High Command is pleased with progress. Romanian support has been encouraging and they will have earned some experience fighting in their supporting role. Axis appeasement of Turkish expansion continues. The Path to Glory remains open and the destination still within our control. Life is good: live it to the fullest!
 
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An imaginative and original name for a Soviet aligned state? That rule's out anything with Democratic, People or Republic. Could try being honest - "The miserable dictatorial hellhole of xxx" is accurate, original and would certainly take a huge leap of imagination (to imagine you'd survive suggesting it). As the war in Yugoslavia seems all over bar the slog and transit times, it is that new name that I am most looking forward to.
 
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Calistar, himself somewhat discomfited by the cool presence of his advertiser-and-propaganda-guru, starts to babble a little. “The Cabinet has decided that the national title of the Greater Turkish Republic, which we only took on earlier this year, may not stand the test of time.

Understatement of the century. Well, after the war to end all wars thing, and maybe peace for our time and making the trains run on time and I have just realised that these aren't unserstaments but hindsight hitting bullplop. So original statement stands.

Fix the name.

In another optimistic gesture, we commence our first ever air doctrine development, where we will try to bring our fighter pilot training up to 1918 standards!

...okay. Okay, wow that's really, really bad air tech and presumably your airforce is equally awful/out of date? In that case, Italy and Hungary might be genuinely dangerous even if they are distracted. Their aircraft can make mincemeat of you. Oh dear, why did we pick Stalin again?

While it seems like the war in Yugoslavia (and needless alliteration) has been going a long time, it’s not even been a month and a half yet, fighting against a large country with a superior air force in tough terrain, so the High Command is pleased with progress.

Indeed they should be, it's gone remarkably well even considering the string of good fortune we've had thus far. That airforce gal is giving me pause but there's nothing much you can do about it aside from get more resources and manpower. So Persia still must fall. I mean, eventually turkey is going to restore the whole Arabian and then Roman Empire anyway (Russia can have Germany, Eastern Europe and Scandinavia if it wants). Might as well get a start on taking out the Middle East. Getting Italy in line isn't going to be easy after all and you don't want to be late to the fight and have the allies install democracies everywhere and then give out independance like irresponsible children now do you?

For names, you could try the Grand Republic of the United People's of the Classical World (tagline: you want in? Better have had your peak no less than a thousand years ago). As mentioned above, since the jingoistic and increasingly confident members of the cabinet are going to be wanting an empire at the end of all this anyway, the name right now doesn't really matter. That Empire name has to be pretty swish though.
 
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Understatement of the century. Well, after the war to end all wars thing, and maybe peace for our time and making the trains run on time and I have just realised that these aren't unserstaments but hindsight hitting bullplop. So original statement stands.

Fix the name.



...okay. Okay, wow that's really, really bad air tech and presumably your airforce is equally awful/out of date? In that case, Italy and Hungary might be genuinely dangerous even if they are distracted. Their aircraft can make mincemeat of you. Oh dear, why did we pick Stalin again?



Indeed they should be, it's gone remarkably well even considering the string of good fortune we've had thus far. That airforce gal is giving me pause but there's nothing much you can do about it aside from get more resources and manpower. So Persia still must fall. I mean, eventually turkey is going to restore the whole Arabian and then Roman Empire anyway (Russia can have Germany, Eastern Europe and Scandinavia if it wants). Might as well get a start on taking out the Middle East. Getting Italy in line isn't going to be easy after all and you don't want to be late to the fight and have the allies install democracies everywhere and then give out independance like irresponsible children now do you?

For names, you could try the Grand Republic of the United People's of the Classical World (tagline: you want in? Better have had your peak no less than a thousand years ago). As mentioned above, since the jingoistic and increasingly confident members of the cabinet are going to be wanting an empire at the end of all this anyway, the name right now doesn't really matter. That Empire name has to be pretty swish though.
Yes, the Air Force is awful :eek:: 1 x Curtiss Hawk INT wing and 1 x Bristol Blenheim TAC wing, with pre-1918 doctrine. Hence no plans to try to build with or develop my own aircraft tech, just some licenses and doctrine. The AF was able to gain air superiority against countries with no AF themselves :D, but that was it.

NB: one reason for picking Stalin was, as we wanted to join the war against the Axis, that would put it off from 1939 (if joining the Allies) to maybe the second half of 1941. More time to hide, build up some air defences, etc. We'll see what kind of aircraft people are willing to sell us - as Turkey did in OTL.

It may take a while for Braanszon and Persephonee to come up with the new name: a storyline I intend to milk for some time yet :).

Democracies o_O? Spit :mad:! Don't want that Western bourgeois weakness spreading across the globe. In this timeline, anyway.
 
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An imaginative and original name for a Soviet aligned state? That rule's out anything with Democratic, People or Republic. Could try being honest - "The miserable dictatorial hellhole of xxx" is accurate, original and would certainly take a huge leap of imagination (to imagine you'd survive suggesting it). As the war in Yugoslavia seems all over bar the slog and transit times, it is that new name that I am most looking forward to.
Yes a tough task - Braanszon may well need a liver transplant by the time they figure that one out :(.
 
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