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Annexing. I wanted the IC, MP and resources and didn't want to risk some scripted pre-Barbarossa war event on a puppeted Yugo (don't know if puppeting cancels it).
Lets hope the hell you're not high-jacked; you already know it was not fun for me. You SHOULD be safe with an Annex.

Before I forget again; I enjoy the tools you're employing as you progress. i.e. the unit IDs. VG
And that "cutting"? Whew baby! You're already a Master. :D

Cheerio to victory
 
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Lets hope the hell you're not high-jacked; you already know it was not fun for me. You SHOULD be safe with an Annex.

Before I forget again; I enjoy the tools you're employing as you progress. i.e. the unit IDs. VG
And that "cutting"? Whew baby! You're already a Master. :D

Cheerio to victory
Yes, here's hoping when the Axis finally strikes it's just plain old-fashioned aggression and not some strange script thing. Thanks re the 'AAR mechanics', I'll keep experimenting as I go.
 
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I assume the Yugo's are too far away from the Axis sphere to manage to draw them in at this late stage?
 
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I assume the Yugos are still too far away from the Axis sphere to manage to draw them in at this late stage?
They're getting quite close but I don't think they can join before I can force them to surrender. Their neutrality is still quite high too, despite my having attacked them mercilessly! That Prince Paul just likes to fence-sit, even at the End of Days!

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Had to catch up! I always find the events in Asia fun to watch - at least when Japan is not picking on me.

Do you plan to try to gain a ally with Spain, try to block it from joining the Axis, or keep out of that part of Europe? Also it looks like the Allies are on top right now.
 
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Had to catch up! I always find the events in Asia fun to watch - at least when Japan is not picking on me.

Do you plan to try to gain a ally with Spain, try to block it from joining the Axis, or keep out of that part of Europe? Also it looks like the Allies are on top right now.
And thanks for doing so! :) I'd love to be able to do a bit of influencing, but the 2 LS required would take more than a quarter of my whole leadership pool at the moment :(. But Spain is a Comintern war objective so it would be useful.

It's still only November 1937 (though so much has happened with our fourth war of the year in progress). So not clear yet whether the actions I am taking now will substantially aid the strategic positions of either the Allies or Soviets in the longer term - will have to wait and see.

I'm writing the next update now, which will concentrate on the war in Yugoslavia but will also cover broad progress over the last two months in the other major world conflict at the moment: the Sino-Japanese War.
 
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Chapter 33: War in Central Yugoslavia – “Going Hammer and Tongs” (18 - 24 November 1937)
Chapter 33: War in Central Yugoslavia – “Going Hammer and Tongs” (18 - 24 November 1937)

Foreword. Braanszon and Persephonee are on a detox week at Izmir, so the editors of ‘The Path to Glory’ had to come up with a hammer-related headline of their own. You can see it lacks the zing of one of the "A-Team's" one-liners, but needs must. It is pretty pedestrian - perhaps war-weariness is starting to set in among the chattering classes of Ankara! This chapter is more of a straight battle diary entry, as the War in Yugoslavia approaches its decisive stages. I have gone back to a general chronological approach for the whole campaign, as the Hammer and Anvil fronts begin to merge in the centre and their battles become more inter-related. There is also the promised update on developments in the Far East, where the Axis is on the march in China.

Sino-Japanese War Update

The map below takes a broad overview, tracking the flow of battle (mainly in Japan’s favour after a few incursions by the Shanxi in the north early on). The last update on 27 Sep 37 showed Japan had taken the VP centres of Beiping and Tianjin plus the three Nationalist Chinese provinces to the south in the three weeks after their declaration of war on 6 Sep 37. At the same time, the Shanxi had taken the four Japanese occupied provinces along their border over the same period.

Japan has asserted itself strongly since then. The map below shows the front line of battle in approximately fortnightly intervals since then. It extends out to 29 Nov 37, by which time Nationalist China was at 51.6% surrender progress, Shanxi still at 0%. On the map below, VP cities are indicated by green stars and are named. [Ed: I’ve played a little longer than the end of this update indicates, as there was too much information to reasonably include it all in one chapter without overloading it.]

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18 Nov 37 (D+19)

1300. Ögel provides the latest intel report. Full priority is now on France, softening it up as an industrial espionage target. We have two spies in reserve now in case their counter-intelligence agents catch any of ours. In Yugoslavia, the five remaining spies (who we hope not to need for much longer) are set to lowering their national unity. We will take this very literally, with Ögel continuing to encourage Vladko Maček and his Croatian separatists with promises of autonomy under Turkish overall rule.

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The following map summarises the situation across the entire front as we left it at the end of the last update. The Hammer threatens to meet the Anvil in central Yugoslavia and the bold dash along the Adriatic sector to Sarajevo and Split continues. Meanwhile, although we do not receive detailed battle reports, the Romanians have started to exert a substantive influence, especially to the south of 1st Corps. The sight of Popescu’s LARM/MOT division racing forward leaves us very glad we didn’t destroy it as we invaded Romania earlier this year!

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Focusing in on the Central sector, 2nd Corps has now launched general attacks to follow-up retreating Yugoslavian units in Plav and Stip. The RAW War doctrine that dictates to pursue the enemy and keep them on the hop (and unentrenched) wherever possible has triumphed over caution! We will see if they decide to stand and fight, or run away. But with their entrenchments now abandoned, if they do fight our odds should be better than previously. This colour-coded map indicates where each of the formations is attacking. Artunkal is not afraid to take his own reinforced HQ into battle too, thus increasing his credibility with the veteran troops who serve under him.

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In the Beograd sector, HQ 1st Corps is ordered up from Vrsac to Panavo as the Romanians finally begin to occupy the flanks of the initial narrow thrust towards Beograd and the supply lines become more secure.

1500. The battles for Stip (16 killed from our 17 Inf Div against 5 of the enemy) and Plav (8 killed from our 11 Inf Div against 6 enemy) are simple skirmishes, as the Yugoslavians continue to withdraw. We now have them on the run, with manouevre rather than head-on fighting forcing them out of two entrenched positions in tough terrain. This exemplifies the theory of Turkish RAW War.

19 Nov 37 (D+20)

1000. A brief foray for recon purposes by our INT wing (Hitay’s 1 Avci Filo) to the north-west of the Visegrad battle reveals an enemy cavalry division approaching from that direction. However, our single INT wing is ambushed by three Yugoslavian fighter wings and is very quickly reduced to around 20% organisation again. Back to hiding in Beograd before they are shot out of the sky!

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A photo of Visegrad taken by 1 Avci Filo during its short and hectic aerial recon mission. The key to victory is forcing the bridges over the River Drina.

1300. The Battle for Sjenica continues and is quickly turning into a pivotal engagement. Not only will it close the neck of the Serbia Pocket, but a breakthrough here will link the Hammer and Anvil fronts and assist with opening a wide path west towards Sarajevo and then Split, where our secondary Adriatic sector lead elements are becoming isolated and face increasing Yugoslavian forces. Wehib Pasha’s superior skills and tactical ‘assault’ selection give him the advantage over Kosic’s 3rd Mot Div, which has the advantage of some entrenchments but is already lower in organisation.

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Further to the north-west, the Battle for Visegrad grinds on, with Karabekir now using ‘shock’ to try to break the enemy 22 Inf Div’s river defence. Cakmak’s 1 Inf Div still remains in reserve. Both sides are taking casualties and losing organisation.

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1900. 5 Inf Div has arrived in Kraljevo, just to the north of 1 Cav Div in Novi Pazar. The 1st and 2nd Corps troops have now linked, closing off the Serbia Pocket. 5 Inf Div is immediately ordered to advance on Sjenica to reinforce the attack and outflank the enemy, strengthening the noose on the pocket.

20 Nov 37 (D+21)

1400. As the third week of the campaign draws to an end, in the Adriatic sector 3 Cav Div’s charmed run may also be coming to an end. Their advance on Sarajevo, which was almost in reach, has been delayed by an attack from the Yugoslavian 15th Inf Div in Konjic on Nevesinje. While the initial odds are reasonable, this will slow progress and 3 Cav is outnumbered and on the move, so is not entrenched. For now, 15 Inf Div remains on its westerly course for Split, but a strong Yugoslavian attack on Nevesinje would threaten its supply lines, with any reinforcements still distant.

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21 Nov 37 (D+22)

11 Inf Div arrives in Plav at midnight and is immediately sent to reinforce the attack on Sjenica, opening up a third flank on the hard-pressed defenders. The battle looks to be coming towards a favourable conclusion. With HQ 1st Corps now guarding Panavo (on the supply line to Beograd), at 0200 1 Mtn Div is ordered forward to Beograd, from where it will push west to Valjevo and become available for either reinforcing the attack on Visegrad (if needed) or widening the advance to its north. And in the south, 17 Inf Div arrives in Stip at 0500 and begins immediately chasing the retreating enemy division north to Surdulica.

By that time, the Yugoslavian attack on Nevensinje has not yet caused any serious problems. 3 Cav Div is holding well and its orders to continue to Sarajevo stand: if they can beat off this attack, they don’t want to sacrifice the progress they have already made, as Sarajevo still lies open.

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And in Sjenica, Wehib Pasha still carries the main assault alone, with 11 Inf Div in reserve and 5 Inf Div still on its way from the north-east. But he is making strong progress and the enemy looks like breaking quite soon.

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World News, Budapest, Hungary. At 4pm this evening, Hungary has become the next nation to be accepted by Germany into its growing Axis faction. Turkey will indeed watch these developments carefully, given Hungary’s pivotal position in Central Europe and their well-publicised claims on various areas in the Balkans now under (or soon to be under) the rule of the Greater Republic.

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22 Nov 37 (D+23)


0800. 1 Mtn Div arrives in Beograd and continues on its way to Valjevo. At the same time, HQ 2nd Corps diverts to the north-east and the province of Medveda in the Serbian Pocket. This should help to block the escape of enemy forces fleeing the Romanian push from the east.

However, the probe of Orbay’s 15 Inf Div on Surdulica runs into firm opposition from Pavlovic’s 7th Inf Div: critically, Orbay’s supplies run out at this point, putting the mockers on his attempted attack, which is quickly called off.

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Better news to the north: the major Battle of Sjenica has been won. Another battle honour for the victorious 1 Cav Div. The enemy retreats south-west towards Kolasin.

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By 1200 1 Cav Div has entered Sjenica, where they will briefly hold and reorganise. 11 Inf Div is redirected to Kolasin, to pursue the retreating enemy 3rd Mot Div once they are ready. 5 Inf Div will continue to Sjenica, to support the drive to the west to relieve our gallant Adriatic sector forces and finish off the war.

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The Commander of the Turkish 1st Armoured Car Brigade (1 Cav Div) takes the victory salute from Wehib Pasha in the key central province of Sjenica on 22 November 1937.

The urgency of that relief has increased: another enemy unit – the fresh 17th Inf Div – has joined the attack on 3 Cav Div from a different flank (the north-east, from Foca). This has worsened the odds and 3 Cav Div, though still holding, will surely be pushed back if the new enemy unit succeeds in reinforcing.

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At 1600, a short counter-attack on Stip by the enemy 7th Inf Div in Surdulica is beaten back, with 12 Turks killed and 7 Yugoslavians. A skirmish only, but 17 Inf Div remains out of supply and on the defensive for now.

23 Nov 37 (D+24)

1400. As the odds in Nevesinje reach 50/50 and 3 Cav Div begins to weaken, 15 Inf Div’s bold dash towards Split is called off. They are ordered to divert north-east towards Nevesinje. The move will take some time, so it is likely 3 Cav will need to withdraw before the Gataly’s men can arrive. 15 Inf Div will either arrive first and defend in favourable terrain, or hopefully counter-attack a somewhat disorganised enemy before they have a chance to dig in. The war will take a little longer now to finish than the Turkish High Command had dared to dream.

In Visegrad, both Turk and Yugoslav soldiers are reaching the end of their endurance. 1 Inf Div has still not been able to reinforce. Tactics have reverted to ‘attack’ vs ‘defend’ as Karabekir desperately tries to secure the bridges across the Drina and expand his bridgehead in Visegrad.

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Turkish pioneers attempt to repair one of the bridges over the Drina that has been seized during heavy fighting, 23 November 1937.

24 Nov 37 (D+25)

0400. Our Liaison Officers with the Romanian Army HQ report General Popescu’s armoured division and Antonescu’s infantry division have attacked and defeated a Yugoslavian infantry division in Jagodina. This is a very useful development, which removes a potential threat to our supply lines and will continue to strengthen the screen cutting off Yugoslavian forces remaining in the Serbian Pocket, which must soon start running out of supplies.

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Romanian mortar crews in action during the battle for Jagodina.

The map below shows the general situation in Yugoslavia, at 4am on the morning of 24 November. A more detailed campaign progress map will be produced at the end of the next update, covering advances and battles since 18 November. The Serbian Pocket has been securely sealed, with about a corps of Yugoslavian troops trapped. While a number of units are on the move and advancing, the three key battle in progress or just having finished are:
  • The Yugoslavian attack on 3 Cav Div in Nevesinje, where the odds have now swung against the defenders.
  • The Battle for Visegrad, which has been in progress since 0900 on 14 November (almost ten days now), where the odds are now in Turkey’s favour.
  • The recent Romanian attack on Jagodina in the Serbian Pocket, which should assist the consolidation of the flank of the northern advance and rolling up remaining Yugoslavian resistance in the sector.
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Coming Up: Will the Battle for Visegrad ever end and who will win it? Can 3 Cav Div hold out until relieved, or will they finally have to retreat and abandon their dream of a triumphal entry into Sarajevo? Are there any more reinforcing Yugoslavian divisions we have not previously seen that may thwart our plans? Does Hungary’s acceptance into the Axis provide a clear and present danger to our Romanian ally and our attack on Yugoslavia? Or will the Axis continue to appease our bold plans for the consolidation of the Balkans into an even Greater Turkish Republic? Have Braanszon Guildenstern’s recent excesses proven too much for even his legendary appetite for over-indulgence and self-destruction? All this and more in the next exciting instalment.
 
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I think Yugoslavia is a tough nut to crack when playing as a minor. Very large and unfriendly terrain make a quick victory a bit difficult when the invader has to push an entire front. You've avoided that thus far and could end the war soon. Good that you have a competent Puppet making a "Blind-date" run. Did you bribe Antonescu or make wild promises?:D
 
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I think Yugoslavia is a tough nut to crack when playing as a minor. Very large and unfriendly terrain make a quick victory a bit difficult when the invader has to push an entire front. You've avoided that thus far and could end the war soon. Good that you have a competent Puppet making a "Blind-date" run. Did you bribe Antonescu or make wild promises?:D
Yes, you're definitely right about Yugoslavia, especially when I really only still have the same (augmented in strength) number of units I started with in 1936. I was worried at first when Romania didn't seem to be doing anything and could see the offensive might bog down half way through - but they now seem to be doing a good job :cool:. Case Blue was only ever considered as feasible by our General Staff if we had Romania to assist with it.

Antonescu and friends? We made them an offer they don't refuse :eek:! They get to dip their beaks a little as they pass through any towns they conquer on our behalf. And don't get any more visits from our "special liaison officer" to Romanian Army HQ (picture and story to follow in the next update - you've just given me another plot line and character idea, thanks markkur :)).
 
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Haloo! A HOI game where Turkey does stuff! Lovely.

Read everything so far and I enjoy it. Wish you were joining the allies but that's personal preference (old empires stick together after all!)
 
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Haloo! A HOI game where Turkey does stuff! Lovely.

Read everything so far and I enjoy it. Wish you were joining the allies but that's personal preference (old empires stick together after all!)
Lovely to have you aboard! Yes, still in 1937 and on the fourth war. While our army is not much improved than what we started with in 1936, the same goes for my unfortunate Balkan neighbours ;). And they have naive AI governments that never seem to see me coming!

At least if I'm not joining the Allies (who did after all remove the empire in the first place), they will eventually become co-belligerents in the global war on Fascism! Thanks for reading and I appreciate the time it takes to catch up.
 
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Aw shucks, but "even a broken-clock is right twice a day"(old-style timepiece of course) :)
Kind of psychic you mentioned that, as the battery of my new-style watch ran out yesterday so it went blank: not even right twice a day :oops:. Hope to get the next update finished tonight my time, when you will meet Intel Chief Ogel's new LO to the Romanian Army HQ. Not a nice man :eek:!
 
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You must have the axis tearing their hair out. For Italy: you've destroyed their easy first step of conquest in Albania, made Greece (already a nightmarishly evil place to attack with a poor airforce) even harder to hit because its now part of a greater whole, effectively kicked them out of the running for who's top dog in the Balkan region (though there are still contenders even within the axis for that) AND made it necessary for their fleet ( already ridiculously outgunned against the British and French) have to seriously consider war in the east Mediterranean Sea at the same time. Wow.

For Germany, less so. They were planning on coming int the balkans after winning over Spain and Central Europe first. For the most part, they were only interested in getting vassal states and bribing Hungary with offerings to get them to play in their party. Even so, they must be somewhat amused. The balkans are being cleared up, Hungary is being driven towards them by necessity (as it's going to get wedged between the Soviets and Turkey otherwise) and perhaps best of all, they got Italy into the axis without them getting anything and in fact watching Musilini's plans crumble to dust in his face. Turkey's delivered two allies for them (hopefully), they now don't have to fight in the balkans (a waste of time for a great power such as them) and Italy's bright ideas about invading places on their own will probably be confined to Africa now (unless they want to fight turkey, in which case they'll need axis support which in turn means they dance to Hitler's tune).

It's an odd interchange but for the most part, Germany has actually gained a bit out of this whole greater Turkey business whilst Italy has lost a lot in terms of options and choices. Hungary too but then again they never really had many to begin with.
 
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I think it is more the resources that the Germans will come to regret not having.

However now North Africa will more than likely be a none event, unless our author decides to stir the pot and give the Axis access through their lands so the Middle East might get nasty.

Then turn on the Axis once the time is right.
 
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You must have the axis tearing their hair out. For Italy: you've destroyed their easy first step of conquest in Albania, made Greece (already a nightmarishly evil place to attack with a poor airforce) even harder to hit because its now part of a greater whole, effectively kicked them out of the running for who's top dog in the Balkan region (though there are still contenders even within the axis for that) AND made it necessary for their fleet ( already ridiculously outgunned against the British and French) have to seriously consider war in the east Mediterranean Sea at the same time. Wow.

For Germany, less so. They were planning on coming int the balkans after winning over Spain and Central Europe first. For the most part, they were only interested in getting vassal states and bribing Hungary with offerings to get them to play in their party. Even so, they must be somewhat amused. The balkans are being cleared up, Hungary is being driven towards them by necessity (as it's going to get wedged between the Soviets and Turkey otherwise) and perhaps best of all, they got Italy into the axis without them getting anything and in fact watching Musilini's plans crumble to dust in his face. Turkey's delivered two allies for them (hopefully), they now don't have to fight in the balkans (a waste of time for a great power such as them) and Italy's bright ideas about invading places on their own will probably be confined to Africa now (unless they want to fight turkey, in which case they'll need axis support which in turn means they dance to Hitler's tune).

It's an odd interchange but for the most part, Germany has actually gained a bit out of this whole greater Turkey business whilst Italy has lost a lot in terms of options and choices. Hungary too but then again they never really had many to begin with.
Here's hoping re Italy: if Mussolini had any hair to tear out, I'm sure he'd be doing it :D! And Italy haven't actually joined the Axis yet, just Hungary and Japan (and its puppet Manchukuo). Italy would join eventually anyway, so no great loss there I think.

On Germany: well, they're too big for me to deal with by myself of course. The Balkan plan was carefully considered. On the plus side, it has removed Bulgaria and Romania (and their armies) from the Axis orbat, which will mean they have fewer forces to support them against Russia. Yugoslavia and Greece they and Italy would have defeated pretty quickly anyway and in time for Barbarossa. I might have saved them some effort there, but then again I have three or more years exploiting the resources, MP and LS of Yugoslavia, Greece and Bulgaria; have won a big buffer zone for the Turkish heartland and will hopefully have time to now develop some decent defences in depth. It hinges of course on me being able to join the Comintern before the Axis comes for me, but that's the gamble I've taken. And if they attack Russia first and not me, I can choose the time of my entry into the war (if I haven't got cold feet by then and join the Comintern anyway).

Hungary? Well, they may be in the Axis, but they won't be getting the Vienna Awards without a fight :)! Will be interesting to see how this experiment plays out: I'm hoping the strength I will have gained and the German allies (and armies) I've removed will outbalance any positive for them. Much will rest on the sequence of their attacks in the East, how the Soviet AI goes and whether I can develop my current meagre and low-tech forces enough over the next three or so years to be of use to Russia in the Big Show. I'll also be interested to see if this change of history has any substantive effect on how things pan out with Czechoslovakia, Poland and France, or whether the triggers just fire as usual. Then to see what happens with Barbarossa. I'll be in personally uncharted territory for all of that!
 
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I think it is more the resources that the Germans will come to regret not having.

However now North Africa will more than likely be a none event, unless our author decides to stir the pot and give the Axis access through their lands so the Middle East might get nasty.

Then turn on the Axis once the time is right.
I like your thinking ;). I hope we're right about the resources denied Germany. Whether it comes to a tricksy ploy in North Africa is another matter: I might be philosophically unable to come at giving the Fascists direct access, while much of my defensive strategy for the assumed eventual German attack is to sit on a fortified Bosporus-Istanbul line if necessary and wait for the Russians to do their thing, at which point I break back out into a 'soft underbelly'. Too many Axis (especially German) forces running around in the ME could be too big a risk to my southern flank, which would be harder to defend.

Will wait for the Comintern Victory in Europe, then perhaps take down the Allies in ME/NAfr with a bit of Soviet help myself!
 
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Update update ;): a big (in time and design) update this time with quite a bit of work in it, almost done but not quite. Out for a fair bit of tomorrow night, so it may be Wednesday Australian time before it will be ready to launch.

Happy to keep the discussions going until then though :). Especially as the Cabinet will be thinking about 'what next' soon, if we can finish off Yugoslavia. Peace and development - or war o_O?
 
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Kind of psychic you mentioned that, as the battery of my new-style watch ran out yesterday so it went blank: not even right twice a day :oops:.
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Well, at the moment we've both stepped inside "shared-experience...at great distance." I am spending more time than my usual on my next update. I guess I'm grateful we are much more "wind-up" than battery.:D
 
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I think it is more the resources that the Germans will come to regret not having.
However now North Africa will more than likely be a none event, unless our author decides to stir the pot and give the Axis access through their lands so the Middle East might get nasty.
Then turn on the Axis once the time is right.
Eh...there are ways, especially with Germany being as big and powerful as it is. What they are going to miss are the easy resources their axis cohorts could have had if they were allowed free rein in the Balkans. Whilst they could win against Turkey, it would be a far harder and longer fight (relatively speaking) compared to simply wiping the independents out. And if the Axis does invade Turkey, that could be the push that sends everyone on them (at least the Allies. Maybe Comintern too but who knows?).
And Italy haven't actually joined the Axis yet, just Hungary and Japan (and its puppet Manchukuo). Italy would join eventually anyway, so no great loss there I think.
Huh...Italy might not be let in, or if they are it'll be an even less equal partnership than it was before because there is bugger all they can hit aside from North Africa and maybe the Middle East. When your potential candidate for your faction only has 'we can distract the Allied navies a little' in their pros column and 'please don't ask about our military' in the cons column, you wonder whether Hitler would let them in. Maybe just for canon fodder?
MP and LS of Yugoslavia, Greece and Bulgaria; have won a big buffer zone for the Turkish heartland and will hopefully have time to now develop some decent defences in depth.
That's true! If you look at it that way, with everything you've done so far just as a way of extending the frontlines as far as possible before war starts, then you've done very well. Your airforce and navy weakness might come to bite you though, especially if they decide to attack you first.
wait for the Russians to do their thing, at which point I break back out into a 'soft underbelly'.

Can't believe you said that straight. Unless 'soft underbelly' means you're going to ignore the war and take over Persia or North Africa in the meantime.
 
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