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That's like... the worst pair of available languages to unify lol.
Cisalpine and Italian are more different from each other than Occitan and French. Maybe separating Low German from German would be better?
Personally I kind of think that there doesn't need to be more than one East Slavic language, not any more than there needs to be more than one Scandinavian language. Splitting it into "Russian" and "Ruthenian" is weird because as you say, they're really just synonyms that have reached English from different sources.
Old Novgorodian or Ancient Novgorod dialect is the Old East Slavic. North Slavic branch is not supported by researchers at all. It was used more as a grouping of West and East Slavic rather than a separate branch.
Synonyms because everyone still called it so and we can differentiate them in this way, but the languages were different and started to emerge since the Mongolian invasion.
That's interesting. Surprisingly, I have never heard this term even though I read a lot on the Rus history as a Ukrainian in all available languages
.There was already a source of list of Old Novgorodian names provided in this thread before, so maybe addition of Novgorodian as dialect of Russian can be justified by existence of this dialect content (although I dont think it would be possible to get unique locations names) . Rusyn also could be added as dialect of Ruthenian, but looks like Rusyn culture was cut in Balkan feedback.That's interesting. Surprisingly, I have never heard this term even though I read a lot on the Rus history as a Ukrainian in all available languages
But I'd probably prefer the option just to make those areas of Muscovite culture.
Concerning the Novgorodian Language, historically absolutely right, but can anyone give any location or character name that would sound differently in Novgorodian and Russian in the game? Or they should be different languages but share the same Russian dialect for naming purposes? I don't know. That is why whole England speaks English in the game, not Northumrtian and English. There would be no unique flavour for Northumbrian dialect, as well as Novgorodian, unfortunately.
That source is a fiction, something like a Fandom Art internet page
.Oh, I dont mean the first source but two more reliable ones provided afterwards.That source is a fiction, something like a Fandom Art internet page
Like: 'Let's imagine how Novgorodian would sound now if it was not crushed by Muscovy'.
Yes Pavia wrote, that now Rusyn culture is surely distinctive, but it is highly doubtful for the XIV century for them to be very different from the regular Halychians from the Carpathians, for example.
And I'm sure the Danish and Swedish languages were also emerging and different in the same way at this time. Upper and Lower German were already different from each other. You have to remember what the cross-regional standard for the mechanic is.
I see, thanks, probably missed that. If there are sources it would be great to hae Novgorodian too.
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Category:Old_Novgorodian_given_names this i think they meantThat source is a fiction, something like a Fandom Art internet page
Like: 'Let's imagine how Novgorodian would sound now if it was not crushed by Muscovy'. That is why it was then rejected.
(Btw, personally I would not mind if they'd used it to create a separate Novgorodian language. In the end it is a game and we know for sure that Novgorodian language existed)
Yes Pavia wrote, that now Rusyn culture is surely distinctive, but it is highly doubtful for the XIV century for them to be very different from the regular Halychians from the Carpathians, for example.
If Danish and Swedish were separate then they should be separate languages in the game too. If those who know Scandinavian languages consider this to be right.
It is pretty accepted fact among linguists that Old East Slavic has diverged into Russian and Ruthenian in XIV century ( so around EU5 game start) and Ruthenian diverged into modern Belarusian and Ukrainian in the end of XVIII century. Single East Slavic language is Crusader Kings timeline thing, it no longer existed for at least overwhelming majority of EU5 timeline.
