Turtledove's Settling Accounts Mod

[KILLER BOB]

also i know they use gas a lot in the books so here are some gas researchers i found in another thread
I've dug out my previous post on the technology thread about gas tech teams, and will repost it here since it's more appropriate for this discussion.
tech team- country- description

Fritz Haber - GER - Nobel Prize-winning chemist. Pioneered the manufacture of artificial fertilisers, commercial petroleum distillation, electrolysis, and synthetic raw materials for the production of high explosive. Became head of Germany's gas warfare division, developed the use of chlorine gas and developed tactics for gas use. Very high skill.

Kaiser Wilhelm Institute for the Advancement of Science - GER - developed tear gas and gas shells. Fairly low skill.

Victor Grignat - FRE - another Nobel prizewinner and expert in organic chemistry; developed a method of synthesising the components of TNT. Became head of France's gas warfare division. Moderately high skill.

Major-General C H Foulkes - ENG - head of the British Special Brigade. A practical soldier rather than a scientist; pioneered the use of chlorine and phosgene gas, organised mass production of gas by the Allies, and was the war's leading developer of advanced tactics for the use of gas in combat. High skill, but different specialisations.

Captain W H Livens - ENG - developed the 'Livens Projector' capable of launching a full-scale gas attack on enemy trenches within 15 seconds. Also developed the Allies' first practical flamethrower. Medium skill.

edit- i'll try

 

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once again brasidias, we agree almost perfectly. Yay!

 

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Just for fun, isn't that the same Lt.Colonel Charles Foulkes who accidently gassed his own line during the Battle of Loos when the wind shifted? As for the Ruskies, I'ma print out the list of soviet tech teams then cross off who wouldn't likely have been in developing in the mod and who would to compliment to your list of Ruskies Killerbob.

 

[KILLER BOB]

also heres a list for france, i'm not sure which ones truely existed in SE, but hope these help

Arsenal de Brest (4)- small arms
Dewoitine (4), FAMH (4)- aircraft
F. Joliot & I. Joliot-Curie (6)- nuclear
Jean-Jacques Barr (3)- rocket
Kuhlmann (3)- industry or tanks
Morane-Saulnier (3)- aircraft
Renault (5)- tanks
Rhine-Poulenc (3)-industry (not sure weather should be GER or france, based in both)
Saint-Gobain (2)- industry
Schneider (3)-small arms
SOMUA (5)-tanks
Charles de Gaulle (7)- land doctrine
Etienne Schlumberger (4)- navel doctrine
Francois Darlan (3)- navel doctrine
Francois d'Astier de la Vigerie (3)- land doctrine
Marcel Gensoul (4)-navel doctrine
Martial Val¡n (6)-Air doctrine
Maurice Gamelin (1)-land doctrine
Maxime Weygand (2)-land doctrine
Victor Denain (2)-Air doctrine

sorry i could only find a few, will keep trying

edit some for germany
Paul Von Hindenburg -Land Doctrine
Max Hoffman -land doctrine
i know ther're ww1 generals, but the american- german alliance seems to be using a lot of them

 

[KILLER BOB]

and yet more for GER-
Anthony Fokker/ Fokker (Aircraft based)
Junkers (Aircraft, artillery, engines)
Manfred Von Richtofen (Fighter tactics)
Paul Von Hindenburg (Land Doctrine)
Franz Von Hipper (Naval Doctrine)
Rheinhardt Scheer (Naval Doctrine)
Helmut Von Moltke (Land Doctrine)
Krupp (artillery, electronics? etc)
Alfred Von Tirpitz (Naval doctrine)
Ferdinand Von Zeppelin (Aircraft, Air Doctrine)
Mauser Werke (Artillery, infantry training etc)
Oberschlesien Eisenwerk (mechanics, agricultural things etc)
Daimler (Mechanics, electronics etc)
Joseph Vollmer (mechincs,artillery, land doctrine-tank based, father of the first German tanks)
Kaiserliche Werft Wilhelmshaven (Naval engines etc)
A.G. Vulcan Stettin (Naval mechanics etc)
Germaniawerft Kiel (similar to the above Naval ones)

ps- just tell me when to stop
serously just tell me what countries you need and it shall be done

 

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Hindenburg and von Moltke (younger) would be dead by the time of WWII... General Max Hoffman, former drunk and the "German US Grant", would prob be the chief of staff with Guderian chief of the army.

Killerbob Im having some difficulty printing out the tech teams as fast as you're listing them so take a day off and wait for my 2nd SitRep tomorrow which I'll include which countries need teams. But also thx for all the work.

...and de gualle was a piss poor general- if he was to be a tech team it would be around lvl 2. General Petain, the only french general with actual success against the Germans in any war (he won two somewhat-major battles w/o wasting inf by using von Mudra's tactics during WWI) will be a tech team around lvl 7-8.

 

[KILLER BOB]

Hindenburg and von Moltke (younger) would be dead by the time of WWII... General Max Hoffman, former drunk and the "German US Grant", would prob be the chief of staff with Guderian chief of the army.

Killerbob Im having some difficulty printing out the tech teams as fast as you're listing them so take a day off and wait for my 2nd SitRep tomorrow which I'll include which countries need teams. But also thx for all the work.

...and de gualle was a piss poor general- if he was to be a tech team it would be around lvl 2. General Petain, the only french general with actual success against the Germans in any war (he won two somewhat-major battles w/o wasting inf by using von Mudra's tactics during WWI) will be a tech team around lvl 7-8.

ok i'll take a break, and i agree with you about de gaulle, i doubt both Hindenburg and von Moltke would be dead by this, as in their bio it talks about how the rise of Nazism contributed to their failing health, so maybe they should only be tech teams for a few years

 

[Stingray]

This thread got me interested so I'll spew out a few questions and opinions of mine.

How is population disributed in this alternate world?

How fast is tech suppoed to progress? Giving suppsedly divided and backward places like China tech teams with skill 9 and some 4-5 seems too much.

Could any of you point me to some maps or similiar of the world? Somebody posted them a long time ago in OT, how the borders changed and so on.

 

[HMS Enterprize]

BTW, am I correct in remembering that the US flag has replaced the stars with an eagle? Or is that something else?

Dont the alt USA do something different with their flags to commemorate losing the 2nd civil war? a rememberence day kinda thing..??

 

[KILLER BOB]

Dont the alt USA do something different with their flags to commemorate losing the 2nd civil war? a rememberence day kinda thing..??

ya and eagle over the stars and stripes

 

[KILLER BOB]

...and de gualle was a piss poor general- if he was to be a tech team it would be around lvl 2. General Petain, the only french general with actual success against the Germans in any war (he won two somewhat-major battles w/o wasting inf by using von Mudra's tactics during WWI) will be a tech team around lvl 7-8.

i just realized something, they mention something about King charles of france, could they mean de gaulle, this makes sense because he was pro monarchy (also maybe he should be lvl. 4 insead )

 

[KILLER BOB]

by the way you don't have to include these teams in your sitrep

portugal-(they're goin to be import. in next book)
Companhia União Fabril - industrial engineering, chemistry, management - skill 3;
Fábrica de Material de Guerra - artillery, general equipment - skill 2;
Arsenal da Marinha - naval engineering, naval artillery, general equipment - skill 4;
Empresa Industrial Portuguesa - industrial engineering, management, mechanics, technical efficiency - skill 2;
Escola de Guerra - centralised execution, training, small unit tactics - skill 1;
Escola Militar - centralised execution, training, small unit tactics - skill 2;
Escola Naval - naval training, small taskforce tactics, decentralised execution, submarine tactics - skill 3;
OGMA - aeronautics, technical efficiency - skill 2

serbia- (revolter)
Belgrade University (2)- theoretical stuff
Mihailo Marcep Airplane Workshop (3)- aircraft
Beogradsko Brodogradiliste (3)-???
Serbian State Railways (5)-industrial
Belgrade Military Academy (3)-small arms
Sartid Smederevo (4)-???
Barutana Obilicevo (4)-land doctrine, gas
Topolivnica Kragujevac (5)-industrial
Milutin Milankovic - theorecital
Mihailo Petrovic Alas - mathematician
Nikola Tesla - (discovered modern electricity)
Mihajlo Pupin – electro technician

montegenario- (revolter)
Montenegrin Army- small arms
Nicholas I of Montenegro- land doctrine
Royal Armed Yacht Rumija- navel
Bar Railway- industrial

empire of Mexico
Victoriano Huerta- land doctrine
Acedemy of the General Staff- land doctrine
Artillery School -artillery, small arms
Venustiano Carranza -land doctrine
Military Naval School- Navy
Francisco 'Pancho' Villa- land doctrine
Alvaro Obregon- Land doctrine
School of Agriculture- agriculture, industry
Gustavo Salinas Camiña- aircraft and air doctrine
more coming

 

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This thread got me interested so I'll spew out a few questions and opinions of mine.

How is population disributed in this alternate world?

How fast is tech suppoed to progress? Giving suppsedly divided and backward places like China tech teams with skill 9 and some 4-5 seems too much.

Could any of you point me to some maps or similiar of the world? Somebody posted them a long time ago in OT, how the borders changed and so on.

Well Eastern Europe is under either Imperial Germany or Austria-Hungarian Empire...france took a major beating in WW1... US/CS/Canada took nearly 2+ million dead btwn them...tech seems to be a lil faster then in rl... china would prob be carved up btwn warlords and countires...

I just got back from the dentist, soo still feeling a lil woozy, Ima pull together SitRep2 and report back in an hour or so...and I'll also try to paste a map of North America in the series if I can find one.

 

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SITREP REPORT 2:

What I currently have for IC (Top 10 Countries):
1) Germany, Base IC- 235
2) USA, Base IC- 235 (prior plebiscite)/ 224 (post-pleb)
3) UK, Base IC- 183
4) CSA, Base IC- 110 (prior pleb)/ 121 (post-pleb)
5) Rus, Base IC- 113 (still owns Finland too)
6) fra, Base IC- 103
7) AH, Base IC- 96
8) Jap, Base IC- 86
9) Ita, Base IC- 56
10) Ott, Base IC- 48
*Ohio is 24 IC, still giving US an advantage vs CS by over 55 IC
**keep in mind these are not set in stone so any advice will be considered

Other Needed 'Stuff':
-Garrisons for Ott, Ger, USA, CSA, AH
-Finalize Tech Teams
-Finalize Generals (mostly taking out CS Generals from US List)
-Breaking Up commie china into more of a revolt-situation against warlords
-Panama Canal (or more specifically, lack of)
*Major (PROBLEM) Items on my list this weekend*
-While no SCW, Mexican Civil War trigs needed
-Deseret Republic

And I need to re-install HoI2 due to my fooling around with the database (still works THOUGH extremely laggy, ie 5 minutes just to boot up)

 

[KILLER BOB]

i think russia has too much IC, because they didn't have the 5 year plans and its still under tsar, so maybe lower it by 20
also just give me a list and i'll come up with tech teams for them
as for the panama canal make it so that its impassible, however it can become passiable via a multiple choice event for US and CS, with the option for the other side to dow

 

[KILLER BOB]

Thank you Vulture for stickying this thread

 

[MadLibyan]

Do we really need the Mexican Civil War (Revolution)? Historically, that war was over by 1928, but in this scenario, the monarchy remains in control. So unless we think the war would drag on 8 years after that, you could just leave it out.

 

[KILLER BOB]

well it all depends on what year its going to start, if its in 1920 we should definitly leave it and have an event to supply them like the spanish civil war

 

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First- thx to Vulture for the sticky...

Russia at this point is VERY open to a swing in IC...

Last time I tried to make the Panama Canal (under Columbian control) impassible, HoI2 wouldn't even start, much less crash...I did have a backup of the files allowing me just to replace and continue on...

Right now I think all the major countries have tech teams (btw Morrel did his work at Ft Leavenworth) so Im swinging to right now getting the trigs up...

Also the Mexican Civil War was still going on in 1934 when Jeff Pinkard went down there to set up prison camps.

And I have a question that I want an opinion on: What is the pausibility of changing the picture one would see in a battle to a video (10 sec loop for land/ air/ sea battle)?

 

[KILLER BOB]

First- thx to Vulture for the sticky...

Russia at this point is VERY open to a swing in IC...

Last time I tried to make the Panama Canal (under Columbian control) impassible, HoI2 wouldn't even start, much less crash...I did have a backup of the files allowing me just to replace and continue on...

Right now I think all the major countries have tech teams (btw Morrel did his work at Ft Leavenworth) so Im swinging to right now getting the trigs up...

Also the Mexican Civil War was still going on in 1934 when Jeff Pinkard went down there to set up prison camps.

And I have a question that I want an opinion on: What is the pausibility of changing the picture one would see in a battle to a video (10 sec loop for land/ air/ sea battle)?

ok so when indiana is taken have some sort of special event fire that gives the CSA some blueprints and hinders the us effort for better tanks
if you know anyone who can do the loop i say go for it
how are we doing technology wise?
ps- will post more tech teams soon, will try for things like canada, spain, ireland, and japan