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Tinto Flavour #6 - 14th of February 2025 - Bohemia

Hello, and welcome one more week to Tinto Flavour, the happy Friday when we take a look at the content of the new, super-secret Project Caesar. Today we will be travelling to the Kingdom of Bohemia, a charming place that is worth setting video games in…:

"Charles IV, King of Bohemia and Holy Roman Emperor, had a long and successful reign…

The lands of Bohemia are a territory inhabited by Slavs in the heart of the Germanic Holy Roman Empire. After a long period under the Přemyslid dynasty, the current de Luxembourg rulers may tighten the ties the country has with the Empire, although King Jehan the Blind de Luxembourg is more Francien than German, having been educated in the royal court of Paris.

Keeping both the Nobility and the common folk satisfied under a foreign King, and navigating the political intricacies of the Holy Roman Empire will prove a hurdle for anybody. Fortunately, Bohemia is a strong Kingdom, but will it succeed in its ambitions?"

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As usual, please consider the UI, 2D and 3D art as WIP.

Here you have the lands of Bohemia, Moravia and Silesia:
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You might notice some location and country changes… More about that at the end of this post!

Bohemia starts in a very interesting diplomatic situation:
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From top to bottom: Rivals, Enemies (Rivals are the countries chosen by the player, while Enemies are the countries that chose our country as a Rival), Wars, Embargos, Subjects, and Alliances.

Here is a clearer view using the Diplomatic map mode:
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Jehan ‘the Blind’ is Count of Luxembourg, his inherited and main title; King of Bohemia, after his marriage with Elizabeth Přemyslid, the last princess of that dynasty; and Duke of Wrocław and overlord of Silesia, after his agreement with King Casimir III of Poland on the Treaty of Trentschin, in 1335. His heir is his son Charles, who rules over Moravia. You can also notice that Lower Bavaria is your ally, and all the countries involved in the ongoing Teuton-Polish War. As usual, take the map as WIP, as we’ve already internally discussed that the colouring needs to be improved, to portray better the diplomatic situation shown above.

Bohemia starts with a unique government reform, the ‘Bohemian Commonwealth’:
Bohemian Commonwealth.jpg

It also has a couple of unique Estate Privilege. The ‘Inaugural Diplomas’ were granted by King Jehan in 1311, after he acceded to the throne:
Inaugural Diplomas.jpg

While ‘Ius Teutonicum’ is a privilege for the Commoners, it represents the German settlements across the country:
Ius Teutonicum.jpg

This privilege can be coupled with the ‘Invite German Settlers’ that we mentioned in Tinto Flavour #1, making for a strong combination if you want to grow the population of your country.

As a side note, the Parliament of Bohemia has a flavour name, that we added following your feedback in Tinto Talks #41:
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Let’s take a look at some of the unique advances of Bohemia, now. The first unlocks a unique unit, the ‘Wagenburg’:
Wagenburg.jpg

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We also have advances for later ages, such as the famous ‘Bohemian Crystal’ in the Age of Discovery, or ‘Bohemian Thaler’ in the Age of Reformation:
Bohemian Crystal.jpg

Bohemian Thaler.jpg

Let’s take a look now at the narrative content for Bohemia because it is very interesting. The main historical event of the period probably is the Hussite Wars, which we’re representing with a Situation:
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The situation may trigger around 1400, with this event initiating it:
Hussite Wars Trigger.png

These are the two options:
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If the player selects the first, Bohemia will convert to Hussitism:
Hussite Bohemia.png

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Jan Hus will be a character appearing in the game and founding this religion, but we will talk about him in a future Tinto Flavour devoted to another situation, the ‘Western Schism’.

The Pope will be able to declare a Crusade to restore Catholicism in Bohemia with a follow-up event, and the Hussite Wars will start after that:

Hussite Wars2.png

I triggered the situation from the console, so we obviously have some weird behaviors here with the countries called to arms, the leaders, etc.; please take this panel as a ‘template’ of how the situation will look like when triggered organically in a regular gameplay.

Apart from the side of the situation (Defender of Rome and Defenders of Bohemia), and their respective leaders, there are a few actions that can be performed by Bohemia through the situation:
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The currency that you have to pay to perform these actions is called ‘Religious Influence’. We will talk more about it in the future Tinto Talks devoted to Catholic and Protestant religions.

More content and events will trigger during the situation. And, finally, these are the conditions that may end the Situation, either with a Catholic or a Hussite victory:
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The 30 years that the situation may last is subject to future balance, as usual.

Let’s take a look now at some of the Bohemian Dynamic Historical Events:

‘Maiestas Carolina’ is an event that unlocks a unique policy of the same name for the Legal Code law, if the first option is selected:
Maiestas Carolina.png

Maiestas Carolina2.png

There will be the option to found a University in Prague:
University of Prague.png

And also to sponsor an artist to craft a new fancy crown:
Crown of Bohemia.png

Crown of Bohemia2.png
You may notice that King Jehan wears a fancy, new crown, compared with the previous event. The name of the country will also change to ‘Crown of Bohemia’, and the ‘Crown of Saint Wenceslas’ will be created as a ‘Regalia’ work of art.

Last, but not least, I think that I might be willing to get a cold beer after this Tinto Flavour:
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Pivo, prosím!

…And much more content will be available for Bohemia, but that’s all for today! I won’t be available for the replies, but my fellow coworker @Roger Corominas will be replying instead of me. For next week, we will have the HRE Tinto Maps Feedback on Monday, and next Friday’s Tinto Flavour country will be Bavaria. Cheers!
 

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This flavor talk is a bit sparse, if I am being honest.

A shame that there doesn't seem to be any sort of "Historical Births" feature(as far as can be told). Sigismund and Wenceslaus are pretty important and central to the story of the Luxembourgs unfolding(as well as Prokop and Jobst). Not having any of them feels a bit sad. It especially makes the Hussite Wars odd since of course the government as it were did not convert to the Hussites, rather the Hussites took over. Whereas the event seems to imply(though maybe the flavour will deliver it better) that it is the king and court of bohemia entirely that is converting; the second event would seem to more historically lead to the Hussite wars as opposed to the first which seems ahistorical, despite getting the "Book" icon.
 
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It's also a consequence of console testing that a faith can have pops following it while not being yet conceived of ? Or is "conceived of" not the actual birth of the faith.

The influence over the curia is quite strange in the given screenshot. I guess it's because it's a "localised to current religion" power that takes into account the current religion, but it'd be better to have these show the "destination" religion when the event also include a change of religion (government type would have the same, but by now I'm used to it, whereas for religious power it seems still somewhat "new", and therfore weird to me)
 
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Will there be a quick and convenient way of comparing units? There are so many stats that it would be lovely to have some hover comparison to see a potential new unit's stats compared to a current unit. Possibly in the forms of red and green numbers for how much a stat is higher or lower.
Not as far as I know, but definitely something to talk about with the UI guys...
 
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Will protestantism still spawn like it did historically if hussitism is successful or will populations dissatisfied with the catholic church as well as opportunistic rulers convert to hussitism instead?
 
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Are you still sure this is the best way to represent Polish-Teuton war? Decisive part of the war has already happened and after 1333 the war has been resolved peacefully without any battles.
This is currently how we have it, as the war was technically still ongoing. However, we are always open to iterations and reviews.
 
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I know not everything is shown in these tinto talks, but I sure hope Bohemia will have some "praha defenstration" event / thirty year war situation (though at that time it may be in a different country)
 
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1. I would change the "Death to catholicism!" in the Hussite wars event to something else. The Hussites considered themselves catholics, so they would not say that. I am not sure what would they say though. Maybe "Death to *name of current pope".
2. Until when does Bohemia get flavour content? They formed a personal union with Hungary and Austria since early 16th century and at some points even earlier, but since personal unions are now much more nuanced, I think they should be considered worth of flavour at least until the battle of the white mountain in 1620.
3. The crown of saint Wenceslas was only used for coronations as far as I am aware of and than it was placed on the skull of saint Wenceslas for the rest of the reign, so it is not very realistic to show the king wearing it on regular basis.
 
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Hello, and welcome one more week to Tinto Flavour, the happy Friday when we take a look at the content of the new, super-secret Project Caesar. Today we will be travelling to the Kingdom of Bohemia, a charming place that is worth setting video games in…:



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As usual, please consider the UI, 2D and 3D art as WIP.

Here you have the lands of Bohemia, Moravia and Silesia:
View attachment 1254222
You might notice some location and country changes… More about that at the end of this post!

Bohemia starts in a very interesting diplomatic situation:
View attachment 1254223
From top to bottom: Rivals, Enemies (Rivals are the countries chosen by the player, while Enemies are the countries that chose our country as a Rival), Wars, Embargos, Subjects, and Alliances.

Here is a clearer view using the Diplomatic map mode:
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Jehan ‘the Blind’ is Count of Luxembourg, his inherited and main title; King of Bohemia, after his marriage with Elizabeth Přemyslid, the last princess of that dynasty; and Duke of Wrocław and overlord of Silesia, after his agreement with King Casimir III of Poland on the Treaty of Trentschin, in 1335. His heir is his son Charles, who rules over Moravia. You can also notice that Lower Bavaria is your ally, and all the countries involved in the ongoing Teuton-Polish War. As usual, take the map as WIP, as we’ve already internally discussed that the colouring needs to be improved, to portray better the diplomatic situation shown above.

Bohemia starts with a unique government reform, the ‘Bohemian Commonwealth’:

It also has a couple of unique Estate Privilege. The ‘Inaugural Diplomas’ were granted by King Jehan in 1311, after he acceded to the throne:

While ‘Ius Teutonicum’ is a privilege for the Commoners, it represents the German settlements across the country:
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This privilege can be coupled with the ‘Invite German Settlers’ that we mentioned in Tinto Flavour #1, making for a strong combination if you want to grow the population of your country.

As a side note, the Parliament of Bohemia has a flavour name, that we added following your feedback in Tinto Talks #41:

Let’s take a look at some of the unique advances of Bohemia, now. The first unlocks a unique unit, the ‘Wagenburg’:

We also have advances for later ages, such as the famous ‘Bohemian Crystal’ in the Age of Discovery, or ‘Bohemian Thaler’ in the Age of Reformation:

Let’s take a look now at the narrative content for Bohemia because it is very interesting. The main historical event of the period probably is the Hussite Wars, which we’re representing with a Situation:

The situation may trigger around 1400, with this event initiating it:

These are the two options:

If the player selects the first, Bohemia will convert to Hussitism:
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Jan Hus will be a character appearing in the game and founding this religion, but we will talk about him in a future Tinto Flavour devoted to another situation, the ‘Western Schism’.

The Pope will be able to declare a Crusade to restore Catholicism in Bohemia with a follow-up event, and the Hussite Wars will start after that:

View attachment 1254290
I triggered the situation from the console, so we obviously have some weird behaviors here with the countries called to arms, the leaders, etc.; please take this panel as a ‘template’ of how the situation will look like when triggered organically in a regular gameplay.

Apart from the side of the situation (Defender of Rome and Defenders of Bohemia), and their respective leaders, there are a few actions that can be performed by Bohemia through the situation:
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The currency that you have to pay to perform these actions is called ‘Religious Influence’. We will talk more about it in the future Tinto Talks devoted to Catholic and Protestant religions.

More content and events will trigger during the situation. And, finally, these are the conditions that may end the Situation, either with a Catholic or a Hussite victory:
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The 30 years that the situation may last is subject to future balance, as usual.

Let’s take a look now at some of the Bohemian Dynamic Historical Events:

‘Maiestas Carolina’ is an event that unlocks a unique policy of the same name for the Legal Code law, if the first option is selected:

There will be the option to found a University in Prague:

And also to sponsor an artist to craft a new fancy crown:
You may notice that King Jehan wears a fancy, new crown, compared with the previous event. The name of the country will also change to ‘Crown of Bohemia’, and the ‘Crown of Saint Wenceslas’ will be created as a ‘Regalia’ work of art.

Last, but not least, I think that I might be willing to get a cold beer after this Tinto Flavour:
Pivo, prosím!

…And much more content will be available for Bohemia, but that’s all for today! I won’t be available for the replies, but my fellow coworker @Roger Corominas will be replying instead of me. For next week, we will have the HRE Tinto Maps Feedback on Monday, and next Friday’s Tinto Flavour country will be Bavaria. Cheers!
I’m curious is Hussite guaranteed to spawn every game
 
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As usual, please consider the UI, 2D and 3D art as WIP.
What a čarming man!

Bohemia starts in a very interesting diplomatic situation:
View attachment 1254223
From top to bottom: Rivals, Enemies (Rivals are the countries chosen by the player, while Enemies are the countries that chose our country as a Rival), Wars, Embargos, Subjects, and Alliances.
Embargo on Austria? Nice to see such a "reference" to the 1335 congress of Visegrád! I assume Poland and Hungary will start with this embargo too, then?

Bohemia starts with a unique government reform, the ‘Bohemian Commonwealth’:
While ‘Ius Teutonicum’ is a privilege for the Commoners, it represents the German settlements across the country:
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This privilege can be coupled with the ‘Invite German Settlers’ that we mentioned in Tinto Flavour #1, making for a strong combination if you want to grow the population of your country.
I really do hope Hungary will have something similar to these two, given the unusually high amount of cultural minorities with special rights and contributions (Saxon, Székely, Cuman, Jász seats etc.)

Let’s take a look at some of the unique advances of Bohemia, now. The first unlocks a unique unit, the ‘Wagenburg’:
Will other countries have access to Wagenburgs too under certain circumstances? For example the armies of Hussites outside Bohemia, but the armies of John and Matthias Hunyadi and the Black Army loved to utilize wagenburgs as well.

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Jan Hus will be a character appearing in the game and founding this religion, but we will talk about him in a future Tinto Flavour devoted to another situation, the ‘Western Schism’.
Hussites, Hussite armies, factions and rebels will appear outside of Bohemia too, right?

The Pope will be able to declare a Crusade to restore Catholicism in Bohemia with a follow-up event, and the Hussite Wars will start after that:

View attachment 1254290
I triggered the situation from the console, so we obviously have some weird behaviors here with the countries called to arms, the leaders, etc.; please take this panel as a ‘template’ of how the situation will look like when triggered organically in a regular gameplay.
Love that background art! I'm not entirely sure why Jan Hus has the Rosenberg coat of arms, though.

And also to sponsor an artist to craft a new fancy crown:
You may notice that King Jehan wears a fancy, new crown, compared with the previous event. The name of the country will also change to ‘Crown of Bohemia’, and the ‘Crown of Saint Wenceslas’ will be created as a ‘Regalia’ work of art.
(Btw if the Holy Crown of Hungary doesn't get a unique Work of Art and model like that I am going to riot)

Last, but not least, I think that I might be willing to get a cold beer after this Tinto Flavour:
Pivo, prosím!
...and my next line would have been "if Bohemia doesn't get Beer events, I'm going to riot", but my wishes have been fulfilled!
You should perhaps add such events for whichever location Český Krumlov and Budejovice are in aswell, just sayin' ;')
 
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This flavor talk is a bit sparse, if I am being honest.

A shame that there doesn't seem to be any sort of "Historical Births" feature(as far as can be told). Sigismund and Wenceslaus are pretty important and central to the story of the Luxembourgs unfolding(as well as Prokop and Jobst). Not having any of them feels a bit sad. It especially makes the Hussite Wars odd since of course the government as it were did not convert to the Hussites, rather the Hussites took over. Whereas the event seems to imply(though maybe the flavour will deliver it better) that it is the king and court of bohemia entirely that is converting; the second event would seem to more historically lead to the Hussite wars as opposed to the first which seems ahistorical, despite getting the "Book" icon.
For "random" historical characters, we have their historical dates. However, that can't be done for characters of existing dynasties.
 
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Can I give another nation preference over importing goods from a trade node i mostly own? Like if im playing an MP as the teutonic can I give a trade permission to bohemia so they can buy more from my trade node? Also vice versa?
 
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Will the Luxembourg dynasty receive some help obtaining the emperor title ? Charles the IVth of Luxembourg son of Jean, king of Bohemia and emperor of the HRE is one of the most powerful leader of this timeperiod. The dynasty was also able to secure other thrones such as the Hungarian throne etc...

Also what about the 30YW ? Will the third defenestration lead to a big religious war ?
 
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as the war was technically still ongoing.
but since 1332 there supposed to be a truce until 1343
we are always open to iterations and reviews.
suggestion: maybe do a DHE in 1343 where Poland has a choice between relinquishing cores in Pomeralia and Chelmno in exchange for Kuyavia and Dobrzyn(which are owned by the teutons) or to continue the war or status quo?
 
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It's also a consequence of console testing that a faith can have pops following it while not being yet conceived of ? Or is "conceived of" not the actual birth of the faith.

The influence over the curia is quite strange in the given screenshot. I guess it's because it's a "localised to current religion" power that takes into account the current religion, but it'd be better to have these show the "destination" religion when the event also include a change of religion (government type would have the same, but by now I'm used to it, whereas for religious power it seems still somewhat "new", and therfore weird to me)
1. It's probably due to playing with the console, or it may be an unrelated bug of the tooltip, we'll have to investigate.
2. Yes, I agree that's a bit weird in this case, we'll have to see if we can find a way to make it show clearer.
 
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