
Spoken like Kelebek himself…Well...it means we can arrest Enoch. And arrange an 'accident' for him and his supporters.
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Spoken like Kelebek himself…Well...it means we can arrest Enoch. And arrange an 'accident' for him and his supporters.
Not done Kelebek in a while...must redo at some point![]()
Spoken like Kelebek himself…
Turning up just in time to take “Disembowel Powell” horrifyingly literallyNot done Kelebek in a while...must redo at some point
Is Enoch Powell really this stupid? Probably not. Will the state make an example of him anyway? Probably.Turning up just in time to take “Disembowel Powell” horrifyingly literally
My personal take is that Enoch wouldn’t have ever done anything really insurrectionary because he was too attached to a romantic idea of constitutionalism. Which was a big factor in him eg joining the UUP instead of the NF/BNP etc. I think he also said somewhere that he’d fight for Britain regardless of who was in charge. Might have to dig that quote out and check it exists…Is Enoch Powell really this stupid? Probably not.
Depends ofc on whether the hippies can get their hands on the organs of state in time. But broadly yeah, I think martyring him at this stage would be incredibly counterproductive.Will the state make an example of him anyway? Probably. Then again, if I was in charge of this state and had to keep the general socialist lhilppsjy going, I wouldn't matyr the man but utterly humiliate him for years, crucify him in the press, make his life absolute hell and then arrange an accident.
A quick progress check-in. Enjoyed this one!THE UGLY DEATH OF LABOUR BRITAIN
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I’m therefore expecting a Bennite solution at some point! <as Sir Humphrey flabbers his gast whilst watching>In the chair was Tony Benn (b. 1925), the son of Alliance Manifesto signatory William Benn
Thanks Bullfilter! I remember that one being a fun one to writeA quick progress check-in. Enjoyed this one!![]()
I’m therefore expecting a Bennite solution at some point! <as Sir Humphrey flabbers his gast whilst watching>![]()
Very true, we need all pokemons to vote. And humans. And orcs.More importantly, the ACAs are back up and running! A few have already voted, and turnout looks like it will be quite healthy, but always helpful to add to the calls to pokemon go to the polls, right @Nikolai ? All AARs updated over the last quarter, which is to say between April 1 and June 30 (inclusive) are eligible. Voting is open until August 22, and you can fill out a ballot here.![]()
Yes, all of this is true. Lewis is really in the right here, obviously – but with his record on coal/the mining unions he's not going to get much of a fair hearing. Foot meanwhile will get a fair hearing – but advocating the left-Labour "full coal-powered steam ahead" approach is only marginally less foolish in 1967 than it was in 1983… It also doesn't entirely help that the two disputes (coal vs better fuel sources / managers vs self-management) are being rolled into one.I mean...the Welsh coal miners are going to lose eventually. You can't have a millions strong coal mining industry forever. Indeed, the commonwealth would probably be better served trying to move away from coal as a power source ASAP. Problem is, that leaves a lot of unemployable workers, who are much more hooked into the political machine than OTL. Can't just ignore the issue.
'Mass' is probably a stretch at this point on either count, but the potential for very bad things is obviously there. Syndicalist theory as you say should give us a decent base to defend against it – but then OTL the dockers fucking loved Powell. And big unions are often depressingly bad at dealing with racism in any useful way. Battles ahead…Also, this mass unemployment happening at the same time as mass immigration? Not going to end well...not that there should be as much issue as there was OTL because syndicalist theory should mean that wages are fair for workers no matter what...
Both a curse and a blessing. No Gavin and Stacy, for one thing...And yeah, unemployment/re-employment is going to be the kicker. What we don't have of course is a vast and growing service industry, so we can't eg turn South Wales into a barren land of call centres and business parks.
Hmm. Yes, possibly, especially if the universal basic income devste goes somewhere. And why shouldn't it, with nationalised everything else and no capitalists to complain about productivity...On the other hand, the full employment shibboleth is much more deeply ingrained. If we're lucky then the debate will be about new industries and reskilling. (If we're really lucky then we might even get some 'let's just do less work' discourse…)
Yes, the 70s are going to be interesting. Eurosyn is scientifically advanced, powerful and not in the pocket of Big oil. So climate change surely must find more people more quickly...unfortunately it may make the US dig in even more than otl...In the background of course is the ecological argument. That has the potential to disrupt things in a few years.
One imagines that Nessa would just become a miner…Both a curse and a blessing. No Gavin and Stacy, for one thing...
Quite right.Hmm. Yes, possibly, especially if the universal basic income devste goes somewhere. And why shouldn't it, with nationalised everything else and no capitalists to complain about productivity...
Yes, I suppose it could. Maybe oil ends up being called “freedom juice” or something…Yes, the 70s are going to be interesting. Eurosyn is scientifically advanced, powerful and not in the pocket of Big oil. So climate change surely must find more people more quickly...unfortunately it may make the US dig in even more than otl...
I suppose it would still make quite a difference if Eurosyn went green as early as that. Then again, I have no idea what Germany and the US client states would do...especially if the government and citizens end up at odds over what is best.Yes, I suppose it could. Maybe oil ends up being called “freedom juice” or something…
The question is no doubt what is happening in the Middle East / OPEC states. If we get some sort of oil crisis then maybe the US will end up instigating some sort of weird Cold War where there’s a race to make solar panels…
big if tho – not least because the map of the Middle East Is still under construction…
Hmmm, you’re right… that’s one to work out. One of those occasions where having a Reich with all those Prussian values in the third quarter of the 20th century just boggles the mind. I can’t quite see them being vaguely green North Europeans… but then what else would they be?I suppose it would still make quite a difference if Eurosyn went green as early as that. Then again, I have no idea what Germany and the US client states would do...especially if the government and citizens end up at odds over what is best.
That’s an interesting point. There’s some anti-car proto-ecological stuff in the French ‘new left’, so I suppose it’s not beyond the realm of probability that a general movement away from cars happens regardless… but then the Commonwealth isn’t a particularly car-heavy society TTL. No doubt something will force the issue at some stageThe bigger thing that might change things significantly (if only on a local atmospheric level) is the catalytic convertor not becoming mainstream, or being replaced by something else in europe.
To think a out it some more, the Germans have an even larger mining sector than the british do, especially as its unified right now. Which means they face bascially the same choice as the british will soon enough, and it'll be harder for them to toughen up and destroy mining (they didn't do this OTL).Hmmm, you’re right… that’s one to work out. One of those occasions where having a Reich with all those Prussian values in the third quarter of the 20th century just boggles the mind. I can’t quite see them being vaguely green North Europeans… but then what else would they be?