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'Eastern Deism' will be the name for now as we go with 2.

And something different. What startdates should we have for potential additional scenarios for this little mod. What about:
526
632
7?? something.

Since we should deffinately provide some later starts for those who wish to start later. :)
 
Kaigon said:
732 Poitiers? Or right before (same startyear, different month?)
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Sounds good.:)
snuggs said:
I'd say 2, too. 'Eastern Deism'?

Philip V, I am the one true Gimp!
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No way!:rofl: Actually, you are probably right. My broken foot is almost healed.:D
 
I can give you the political configuration of the British Isles for those years right now...

526
as 476, except that Ui Niall's capital is in Meath not Connaught and Ulaid is probably a vassal of Ui Niall, have to look that up.

632
Ireland as 526.
Wessex holds Wessex and perhaps Bristol. Calchvynydd, Rheged are conquered. Northumbria holds Yorkshire, Lancashire and Northumberland with the capital in Northumberland. Gododdin is in a Granada 1492 situation vis a vis Northumbria. Mercia holds Lincoln and perhaps Bristol. For balance it may be necessary to eliminate Pengwern in favour of Mercia and move Mercia's capital to the Midlands; IRL it only had ten years left anyway. Otherwise as 476.

732
Ireland as 526.
Wessex holds Wessex only. Dyfnain is a vassal of Wessex. Mercia rules Midlands (capital), Lincoln and Bristol and holds Wessex and East Anglia as vassals. Northumbria rules Lothian, Yorkshire and Lancashire from Northumberland. Strathclyde may or may not be a vassal of Alba.
 
Ok, Before you all laugh at me. :rolleyes:

Is King Arthur in this mod?

If so, which Faction in Britain is he monarch of?

Cvm
 
May I ask which Tag that is?


thnx for the help
CvM
 
thanks
 
I think there should be a fallback series of events like I planned for Bede so that if Calchvynydd gets conquered before the event fires Arthur will appear in Dyfnain, failing that Pengwern, Gwynedd, Rheged, Strathclyde.

Bede, incidentally, will fire in 731 for Northumbria IF N'ia exists and adheres to Latin Christianity. What Jarrow's pride and joy will do is slightly improve relations between all A-S kingdoms and give VPs and perhaps an infra/stability bonus to the crown. If Northumbria is out somehow, Bede appears in East Anglia, Kent, Mercia, Wessex.

Northumbria might go for Irish Christianity because that adds them North British state culture - temporarily.

A 'Pryden' tag and Chi-Rho banner would be cool but I think I've hogged more than enough of those.

I was in Wales the other day. Went round the Orme, passed by Degannwy, Rhuddlan and Beaumaris. It was nise.

Happy New Year, y'all.
 
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snuggs, I've added some monarchs on the isles, hope you don't mind.

Here they are, some of their values are probably far off, but it is better then nothing...

in monarchs.wls
Code: 
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17690 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1627
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1634
	}
	name = "Cadwallon II"
	DIP = 5
	ADM = 5
	MIL = 6
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17691 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1634
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1655
	}
	name = "Cadfael"
	DIP = 4
	ADM = 4
	MIL = 4
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17692 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1655
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1682
	}
	name = "Cadwalladr"
	DIP = 5
	ADM = 4
	MIL = 4
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17693 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1682
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1720
	}
	name = "Idwal I"
	DIP = 5
	ADM = 5
	MIL = 5
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17694 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1720
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1754
	}
	name = "Rhodri I"
	DIP = 4
	ADM = 4
	MIL = 5
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17695 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1754
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1798
	}
	name = "Caradoc"
	DIP = 4
	ADM = 5
	MIL = 4
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17696 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1798
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1816
	}
	name = "Conan"
	DIP = 4
	ADM = 4
	MIL = 4
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17697 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1816
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1825
	}
	name = "Howel I"
	DIP = 4
	ADM = 4
	MIL = 4
}

monarchs.ath
Code: 
#Pengwern

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17698 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1475
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1504
	}
	name = "Llywarch *"
	DIP = 3
	ADM = 3
	MIL = 3
}

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17699 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1504
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1537
	}
	name = "Gereint *"
	DIP = 3
	ADM = 3
	MIL = 4
}

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17700 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1537
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1570
	}
	name = "Gwrgi *"
	DIP = 3
	ADM = 3
	MIL = 3
}

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17701 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1570
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1613
	}
	name = "Mawn (or Iago)"
	DIP = 4
	ADM = 4
	MIL = 4
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17702 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1613
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1620
	}
	name = "Cyndrwyn, Constantine & Morfael"
	DIP = 5
	ADM = 3
	MIL = 3
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17703 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1620
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1656
	}
	name = "Cynddylan"
	DIP = 4
	ADM = 4
	MIL = 4
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17704 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1656
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1660
	}
	name = "Caranfael"
	DIP = 4
	ADM = 3
	MIL = 2
}

#To Northumbria 656-660, then to Mercia

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17705 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1660
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1697
	}
	name = "Cadwallon *"
	DIP = 2
	ADM = 4
	MIL = 3
}

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17706 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1697
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1725
	}
	name = "Morfael II *"
	DIP = 3
	ADM = 3
	MIL = 4
}

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17707 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1725
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1759
	}
	name = "Cynmarch *"
	DIP = 5
	ADM = 4
	MIL = 3
}

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17708 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1759
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1791
	}
	name = "Morfael III *"
	DIP = 3
	ADM = 6
	MIL = 3
}

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17709 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1791
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1820
	}
	name = "Caranfael II *"
	DIP = 2
	ADM = 5
	MIL = 4
}

#Ids used 17698-17709

monarchs.sco
Code: 
#Alba

#Mediaeval Pictish High Kingship 

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17710 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1468
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1498
	}
	name = "Drest II Gurthinmac"
	DIP = 4
	ADM = 3
	MIL = 5
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17711 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1498
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1513
	}
	name = "Galam I"
	DIP = 4
	ADM = 3
	MIL = 4
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17712 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1513
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1516
	}
	name = "Drest III & Drest IV"
	DIP = 3
	ADM = 2
	MIL = 4
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17713 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1516
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1521
	}
	name = "Drest III"
	DIP = 3
	ADM = 2
	MIL = 5
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17714 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1521
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1529
	}
	name = "Drest IV"
	DIP = 3
	ADM = 2
	MIL = 5
	remark = "Restored"
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17715 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1529
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1533
	}
	name = "Drest III"
	DIP = 3
	ADM = 2
	MIL = 5
	remark = "Restored"
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17716 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1533
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1540
	}
	name = "Gartnait III & Cailtram"
	DIP = 4
	ADM = 3
	MIL = 5
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17717 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1540
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1541
	}
	name = "Cailtram"
	DIP = 4
	ADM = 4
	MIL = 4
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17718 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1541
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1552
	}
	name = "Talorc III"
	DIP = 4
	ADM = 4
	MIL = 4
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17719 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1552
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1553
	}
	name = "Drest V"
	DIP = 3
	ADM = 2
	MIL = 3
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17720 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1553
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1557
	}
	name = "Galam II"
	DIP = 3
	ADM = 3
	MIL = 5
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17721 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1557
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1584
	}
	name = "Brede I macMaelgwyn"
	DIP = 4
	ADM = 4
	MIL = 5
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17722 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1584
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1602
	}
	name = "Gartnait IV"
	DIP = 5
	ADM = 3
	MIL = 5
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17723 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1602
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1621
	}
	name = "Naiton II"
	DIP = 4
	ADM = 3
	MIL = 4
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17724 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1621
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1631
	}
	name = "Cinioc"
	DIP = 3
	ADM = 3
	MIL = 4
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17725 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1631
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1635
	}
	name = "Gartnait V"
	DIP = 3
	ADM = 2
	MIL = 3
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17726 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1635
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1641
	}
	name = "Brede II"
	DIP = 3
	ADM = 2
	MIL = 4
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17727 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1641
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1653
	}
	name = "Talorc IV"
	DIP = 3
	ADM = 2
	MIL = 4
}

#To Northumbria (Oswiu of Bernicia) 653-672

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17728 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1653
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1657
	}
	name = "Talorcan I macEanfrith"
	DIP = 2
	ADM = 2
	MIL = 3
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17729 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1657
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1664
	}
	name = "Gartnait VI"
	DIP = 3
	ADM = 2
	MIL = 3
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17730 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1664
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1672
	}
	name = "Drest V"
	DIP = 3
	ADM = 2
	MIL = 3
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17731 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1672
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1693
	}
	name = "Brede III"
	DIP = 4
	ADM = 3
	MIL = 5
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17732 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1693
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1697
	}
	name = "Taran"
	DIP = 4
	ADM = 2
	MIL = 4
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17733 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1697
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1706
	}
	name = "Brede IV"
	DIP = 4
	ADM = 2
	MIL = 5
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17735 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1706
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1724
	}
	name = "Naiton IV"
	DIP = 3
	ADM = 3
	MIL = 5
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17736 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1724
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1726
	}
	name = "Drest VI"
	DIP = 3
	ADM = 2
	MIL = 4
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17737 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1726
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1728
	}
	name = "Alpin I of Dalriada"
	DIP = 4
	ADM = 3
	MIL = 4
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17738 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1728
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1729
	}
	name = "Naiton IV"
	DIP = 3
	ADM = 3
	MIL = 5
	remark = "Restored"
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17739 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1729
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1761
	}
	name = "Angus I"
	DIP = 4
	ADM = 4
	MIL = 5
	remark = "Restored, was High King earlier in 728 between Alpin and Naiton. King of Dalriada 739-748"
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17740 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1761
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1763
	}
	name = "Brede V"
	DIP = 3
	ADM = 2
	MIL = 3
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17741 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1763
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1775
	}
	name = "Ciniod"
	DIP = 3
	ADM = 3
	MIL = 5
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17742 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1775
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1779
	}
	name = "Alpin II"
	DIP = 2
	ADM = 2
	MIL = 3
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17743 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1779
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1782
	}
	name = "Drest VII & Talorcan II"
	DIP = 2
	ADM = 1
	MIL = 3
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17745 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1782
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1785
	}
	name = "Talorcan II & Talorcan III"
	DIP = 2
	ADM = 1
	MIL = 3
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17746 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1785
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1789
	}
	name = "Conall Mactadg"
	DIP = 4
	ADM = 3
	MIL = 4
	remark = "King of Dalriada 805-807"
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 17747 }
	startdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1789
	}
	deathdate = {
        	day = 1
	  	month = march
		year = 1820
	}
	name = "Constantine"
	DIP = 4
	ADM = 4
	MIL = 5
	remark = "King of Dalriada 811-820"
}

#Ids used 17710-17747

Calchvynydd and the Irish ones are still without monarchs, so don't forget them ;)
 
One question for snuggs. Is there any cities that should be moved to other parts of their province? Like perhaps the one in Gwynedd to the northern part of Wales (where IIRC Gwynedd is).
 
Oh yeah, hadn't thought of that.

Aye, Welsh city to the top of the province. Degannwy is about as far north as mainland Wales goes.

Might want to move 'Anglia's city out towards Norwich?

For now I've uninstalled EU, didn't want to but there's limited HD room on this laptop, I'll think about others when I have it back.
 
Please help me.
I have so much heard (read) about your super scenario
But i cant play it...(maybe i am to stupid??!)
Can you tell me how i can make it work?

P.S.:It is also by Lofmans history.. :(
 
this projekt..is dead,right? :confused:

I can play it now,but..do you (all) need help by planning the game and...you know..
When yes,i would be happy to help you. :)
 
Hello, IU :)

I had few problems getting this to run - problems I wouldn't have had if I'd had experience with moddir. What's going wrong?

This scenario isn't dead - it may have lost momentum but it's still twitching.
 
It was decided that since the Unlimited Time mod has some unwelcome side-effects, we would begin in 1476 and dock the '1' mentally :) Not perfect, but apparently the alternative would be to screw the Rebels and certain tech calculations.
 
I'm wondering if anyone is interesting in researching leaders and such for Roman Empire, and of course all others who needs them.

Will try to make some events I've planned for a long time but never really got around scripting (the remaining events for the Vandals and the Ostrogoths, and maybe the Vitalian revolt for Roman Empire).
 
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