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Updated the download. Let me hear (read) what you think about the the new land and naval tech. And what to do about the Avars? I'm happily unaware of how they should be in the beginning, north of Persia, east of Altyn Oba or all the way between Persia and Altyn Oba? Or appear as a revolter in Altyn Oba. And is there anyone with some knowledge of India? I'm quite sure that Pallava is to big.
 
CTD in Scenario

Lofman,

I've been following this thread (i redownload the scenario whenever you update the download) and now i get a CTD as the Western Roman Empire between march and may (don't know the exact dates, no time to write them down). i tried to play past this period about 5-6 times and i get a CTD every time. Also, when i go to adjust the dp sliders, when i go to adjust the land/naval slider, the "by moving towards land, you will get the following stats" list, which shows what settings will change, between production efficiency and trade efficiency is "UNKNOWN STRING WANTED"; what change is represented by this? I hope you or one of the other people working on this scenario know what i'm talking about, as i don't know all the terms to describe these problems. I also have a few suggestions regarding the west roman empire, is this thread the best place to propose ideas?
 
Gaius Marius I: I don't know what's causing the CTD. :( Do you use the betas? If so the UNKNOWN STRING WANTED may be because of some change regarding that slider from standard 1.07 whose text isn't found in the text.csv (which is from standard 1.07 ), maybe. Post your suggestions here.

King Jary: The download is in the thread named 476-Scenario in the forum for uploading and downloading scenarios. The thread is a bit down on the page since I only edited the first message.
 
Events - Dyfnain

NOTE: 'Against the Tide?' gives a human Dyfnain the opportunity to 'be' Arthur at the cost of awaking the horrible 'Camlann' event. Other than this Arthur will not figure in the scenario. If you don't want even the possibility, feel free to drop both events.

'Against the Tide?'
01/03/485
preq: none
Text: yet to do
choice 1 -
'Arthur who?'
- stability +1, centralisation +1, $25
choice 2 -
'Hail a false dawn!'
- stability -2, centralisation -1, aristocracy +2, offensive +2, 3 diplomats, $50, sleep leader Gereint I, wake leader Arthur, 10k infantry, 5k cavalry, relations with Wessex, Kent, East Anglia, Mercia, Northumbria -100, relations with Gwynedd, Rheged, Briezh, Gododdin, Strathclyde +25, add cores Wessex, Bristol, Kent, Midlands, Anglia, Lincoln, Yorkshire, Lancashire, Northumberland, Wales, Strathclyde, Lothian, wake event 'Camlann'

'Camlann'
01/03/496
preq: human Dyfnain chose ahistorical option above
Text: yet to do
no choice
'Sic transit...'
- stability -5, random revolt x 2 (+defection?), revolt risk +10 for 36 months, -$100, offensive -2, lose cores Wessex, Bristol, Kent, Midlands, Anglia, Yorkshire, Lincoln, Lancashire, Northumberland, Wales, Strathclyde, Lothian

'Augustine's Oak'
01/03/604
preq: Catholic / Celtic
Text: yet to do
choice 1 -
'Reject Saxon influence' -
- narrowmindedness +1, stability +1
choice 2 -
'Align with Continental practice' -
- random revolt, narrowmindedness -1, stability -2, aristocracy -1, centralisation +1, relations with Wessex, Kent +25, Dyfnain to Catholic, Cornwall province to Catholic Christianity

'Marginalisation and the loss of Devon'
any time after 01/03/711
preq: peace, Wessex event 'Dyrham' OR Mercian event 'To the Western Sea' have occurred; Dyfnain controls neither Wessex nor Bristol
Text: yet to do
choice 1 -
'To the hills!'
- base tax value in Cornwall -3, population in Cornwall -1,500, centralisation -2, narrowmindedness +1
choice 2 -
'Drink to the dregs'
- base tax value in Cornwall -3, stability -3, population in Cornwall -1,500, random revolt, revoltrisk +5 for 12 months, relations with Wessex +150, $25, Dyfnain becomes Wessex's vassal

'Danish dilemma'
01/03/815
preq: Wessex exists and is not a vassal of Dyfnain
Text: yet to do
choice 1 -
'Pay them off'
- -$50, -5VP
choice 2 -
'Ally with Vikings against Wessex'
- break vassal with Wessex, relations with Wessex -50, 12-month CB vs Wessex, 5,000 infantry, wake leader *Ubba
choice 3 -
'Fight!'
- random revolt x 2, relations with Wessex +25

5x 'Saxon Raids'
One randomly within 68 years of each of 01/01/476, 544, 612, 680, 748
preq: none
Text: yet to do
no choice
'They'll pay for this!' -
random revolt, relations with Wessex -25, 24-month CB vs Wessex
 
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Not MORE petty kingdoms

Stop me if this is getting out of hand - it would bring the number of tags necessary for the British Isles alone up to 16 - but how would you feel about adding

Pengwern (Midlands, British)
Eoganachta (Munster)
Calchvynydd (Bristol, British)

Arthur, incidentally, would then become a Calchvynydd leader.
 
I played this scenario as the Franks, from (1)476 - (1)530-ish, it looks good.
A few things... you should really limit the number of colonists and missionaries as I saw the Visigoth empire making the pagan basque to arianism german, you could at least switch the order of cultures to let the new provinces become the hispanian one...

I noticed that you lacked events for Wei, as I've made a few for the Rise of Christianity Scenario (0-500 AD), I have some covering 476-500. I'll post them soon...
 
Hmm, there were only two events... :(
Code: 
[COLOR=silver]
event = {
	id = 100404
	trigger = { 
		owned = { province = 1564 data = -1 }
		monarch = 15176
	}
	random = no
	country = MCH
	name = "The move to Luoyang"
	desc = "In 494 emperor Xiao Wen Di moved the capital to Luoyang, a place that has long been the Chinese capital, and he adopted the Chinese family name Yuan."
	style = 1
	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 494 }
	deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 500 }
	offset = 300
	action_a = {
		name = "Luoyang is a real city"
		command = { type = capital which = 1564 }
		command = { type = domestic which = INNOVATIVE value = 1 }
		command = { type = domestic which = CENTRALIZATION value = 1 }
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "Pingcheng is good enough"
		command = { type = domestic which = INNOVATIVE value = -1 }
		command = { type = domestic which = CENTRALIZATION value = -1 }
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 100405 }
	}
}
event = {
	id = 100405
	trigger = {
		event = 100404
	}
	random = no
	country = MCH
	name = "Merchants in Luoyang"
	desc = "The end of the chaos in northern China attracted many merchants, especially from inner asia. The center of merchanting was, of course, the capital, Luoyang."
	style = 1
	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 494 }
	deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 500 }
	offset = 2000
	action_a = {
		name = "Arrange special quarters for the merchants"
		command = { type = treasury value = -100 }
		command = { type = stability value = 1 }
		command = { type = domestic which = MERCANTILISM value = -1 }
		command = { type = domestic which = INNOVATIVE value = 1 }
		command = { type = provincetax which = 1564 value = 2 }
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "They can handle themselves"
		command = { type = stability value = -1 }
		command = { type = domestic which = INNOVATIVE value = -1 }
	}
}
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IMHO, there should reallt be a CoT in Henan, if you want, you can make the second event open a new CoT, and reduce the added tax to 0 or 1. As my scenario ended in 500, the enddate for the events are... 500... change at your desire...
 
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According to this map:
mapWei.JPG

(from this site)
The capital should be in Pincheng (could be Hohhot province, 1561), which is Shanxi province (1563).
 
Speaking of CoTs, I don't believe the pre-Viking British Isles should get one at all. Instead there should be one around Dorestad and/or perhaps in the region of Bordeaux. If we were able to continue into the C9, CoTs might appear in York and/or Dublin but that time is not yet come.
 
Re: Not MORE petty kingdoms

Originally posted by snuggs
Stop me if this is getting out of hand - it would bring the number of tags necessary for the British Isles alone up to 16 - but how would you feel about adding

Pengwern (Midlands, British)
Eoganachta (Munster)
Calchvynydd (Bristol, British)

Arthur, incidentally, would then become a Calchvynydd leader.
Click to expand...

I wouldn't mind adding them. The more the merrier :) .

And Kaigon, your Wei events look nice.;) Maybe a description for the first one would be nice. ;)
 
It could be something like this:

name = "The move to Luoyang"
desc = "In 494 emperor Xiao Wen Di moved the capital to Luoyang, a place that has long been the Chinese capital, and he adopted the Chinese family name Yuan."

This is from the site (is this allowed?:confused:?)
 
Originally posted by Virginian Gent
but you understood what i was getting at with the Sunni/Shiite thing, right? standard Sunni religion has no real effects in EU 2 as far as I know of and an extra morale boost for the muslims may be a good idea.
Click to expand...
There are no problem in editing the religion to make what you want, and IMHO, we can't afford to use up another religion-slot to represent Shia-Sunni conflicts...

What are you going to do with the CRC-religion Lofman?
 
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New nations

EOGANACHTA
gaelic / CC
controls: Munster
core: Munster
revolts: throughout
tag: ???

PENGWERN
british / catholic
controls: Midlands
core: Midlands
revolts: to 650
tag: ???

CALCHVYNYDD
british / catholic
controls: Bristol
core: Bristol
revolts: to 600
tag: ???
 
Generika

Here are some suggestions for Anglo-Saxon generic leaders and army names - suitable for Kent, Wessex, East Anglia, Mercia, Northumbria.

Armies: Heorthgeneatas [hearth-companions], Dryhtnes Gesithas [lord's comrades], Micel Here [great army], Lytel Here [lesser army], Sibbgedryht [company], Cyninges Werod [king's comitatus], Aethelinges Hird [aetheling's retainers], Westsexena Fyrd, Myrcna Fyrd, Nordhanhymbrisc Fyrd, Cantwarena Fyrd, East Englisc Fyrd, Eastsexena Fyrd, Cilternsaetna Fyrd, Suthsexena Fyrd, Mide Englisc Fyrd, Westerna Fyrd

Leaders: Wulfstan, Coenhelm, Cwichelm, Beaduheard, Cuthred, Eadmund, Aethelbald, Wulfnoth, Saeberht, Sigeberht, Aethelberht, Nothhelm, Wilfrede, Ingeld, Swaefheard, Wynfrith, Ceolfrith, Aethelheard, Cynewulf, Cynegils, Beorhtric, Sigeric, Osrede, Oswulf, Oswald, Osric, Osberht, Oswine, Godric, Godrede, Guthmund, Eanberht, Eanrede, Uhtred, Aethelweard, Hereweard, Heremod, Beorhthelm, Ealfwold, Hun, Burhrede, Cenwulf, Eata, Basa, Wiglaf, Wocca, Eadrede, Aethelstan, Eadgar, Eadweard, Aethelrede, Aelle, Wihtrede, Eadwine, Odda, Frithuwald, Lilla, Wulfrun, Willeuhad, Aethelwulf, Aelfrede

I'll have to speak with m'learned friends to get the equivalent for Celtic nations, though here's some generic 'British' names:

Cadoc, Petroc, Iago, Idwal, Rhodri, Ceretic, Cadell, Hywel, Macsen, Coel, Rhydderch, Merfyn, Cynfyn, Bleddyn, Rhiwallon, Anarawd, Owain, Maredudd, Condidan, Custennin, Dumhgert, Llywelyn, Gruffydd, Beli, Rhun, Artgal, Llywarch, Peredur, Gereint, Erbin, Gwyrthefyr

Picts...

Dubh, Gartnait, Drust, Talorgan, Nechtan, Bruidhe, Bridei, Bili, Albin, Cinaid, Onuist, Maelchon, Cinioch, Constantin, Oengus etc

and Bretons...

Nominoe, Salomon, Conan, Alan, Erispoe, Dinan etc etc

require separate lists I think, but the above will suffice for S'clyde, Gododdin, Rheged, Gwynedd, Dyfnain, Calchvynydd and Pengwern.
 
I finally brought my download up to date. Great stuff :cool:

Suggestion: Rename 'Atlas' to 'Awraba'. Then we could have some Kusaila-related coolness when Islam reaches the region.

Incidentally, 'Glasgow' should be 'Alcluyd'. The city in Lothian should be 'Dunedin'. Gododdin, not Northumbria should rule Northumberland in 476. Rheged shouldn't be allied with Northumbria.

'The Highlands' begin still pagan.

I've changed my mind about the name of Midlands' city, btw. It should be 'Lichfield', not 'Tamworth'.

It's only a shame events can't rename cities, then we could have Gloucester, Chester and Lichfield start as Caer Gliw / Caer Corinn, Caerleon and Caer Luetcoet / Uricon respectively. But as it is I'd rather start them off already under the English spellings as that is how they ended up.

Incidentally, starting relations for the Eoganachta will be identical to Lagin's - cool towards their Irish rivals, Dyfnain and Gwynedd - except that Lagin and Eoganachta begin at -50 to each other. Pengwern's relations are those of Gwynedd, Calchvynydd's those of Dyfnain except that both are at -25 between each other as well as with Gwynedd and Dyfnain :) Add Pengwern to Mercia's kill list and Calchvynydd to Wessex's, but remove Gwynedd from Mercia's.

WESSEX
forest / grain
city: Winchester (7000)
manpower: 1.5
base tax: 5
saxon / pagan
control, 476: Wessex (capital)

KENT
forest / grain
city: Canterbury (8000)
manpower: 1.2
base tax: 6
jutish / pagan
control, 476: Kent (capital)

CORNWALL
hills / fish
city: Bodmin (5000)
manpower: 0.8
base tax: 4
british / catholic
control, 476: Dyfnain (capital)

BRISTOL
forest / wool
city: Gloucester (6000)
manpower: 1.0
base tax: 5
british / catholic
control, 476: Calchvynydd (capital)

ANGLIA
clear / grain
city: Norwich (7000)
manpower: 1.2
base tax: 6
anglian / pagan
control, 476: East Anglia (capital)

LINCOLN
forest / grain
city: Nottingham (6000)
manpower: 1.2
base tax: 5
anglian / pagan
control, 476: Mercia (capital)

MIDLANDS
forest / salt
city: Lichfield (6000)
manpower: 1.2
base tax: 5
british / catholic
control, 476: Pengwern (capital)

WALES
hills / wool
city: Degannwy (6000)
manpower: 1.5
base tax: 5
british / catholic
control, 476: Gwynedd (capital)

LANCASHIRE
hills / iron
city: Chester (6000)
manpower: 0.8
base tax: 4
north british / catholic
control, 476: Rheged (capital)

YORKSHIRE
forest / grain
city: York (7000)
manpower: 1.5
base tax: 5
anglian / pagan
control, 476: Northumbria (capital)

NORTHUMBERLAND
hills / wool
city: Bamburgh (5000)
manpower: 0.8
base tax: 4
north british / catholic
control, 476: Gododdin

STRATHCLYDE
hills / wool
city: Alcluyd (5000)
manpower: 0.8
base tax: 4
north british / catholic
control, 476: Strathclyde (capital)

LOTHIAN
hills / wool
city: Dunedin (5000)
manpower: 0.8
base tax: 4
north british / catholic
control, 476: Gododdin (capital)

THE GRAMPIANS
hills / wool
city: Scone (6000)
manpower: 1.2
base tax: 4
pictish / catholic
control, 476: Alba (capital)

THE HIGHLANDS
hills / fish
city: Cawdor (5000)
manpower: 0.4
base tax: 3
pictish / pagan
control, 476: Alba

ULSTER
hills / wool
city: Armagh (6000)
manpower: 1.0
base tax: 4
gaelic / CC
control, 476: Ulaid (capital)

MEATH
clear / grain
city: Tara (6000)
manpower: 1.0
base tax: 4
gaelic / CC
control, 476: Ui Niall

CONNAUGHT
marsh / fish
city: Cruachu (5000)
manpower: 0.8
base tax: 3
gaelic / CC
control, 476: Ui Niall (capital)

LEINSTER
hills / grain
city: Kildare (6000)
manpower: 1.0
base tax: 4
gaelic / CC
control, 476: Laigin (capital)

MUNSTER
hills / wool
city: Cashel (6000)
manpower: 1.0
base tax: 4
gaelic / CC
control, 476: Eoganachta (capital)

BRETAGNE
forest / fish
city: Dol (5000)
manpower: 1.0
base tax: 4
breton / catholic
control, 476: Briezh (capital)

ARMOR
forest / grain
city: Rennes (8000)
manpower: 1.0
base tax: 6
?breton / catholic
control, 476: ?Briezh

MORBIHAN
forest / fish
city: Vannes (6000)
manpower: 1.0
base tax: 5
?breton / catholic
control, 476: ?Briezh
 
matters arising

For some reason, no nationalism appeared in Midlands / East Anglia when annexed by Mercia. Saxony (!) annexed Kent too but there was no revolt risk. Can't think why. Has it got something to do with paganism?

I think the 'Dyrham' event should be twiddled to fire no earlier than 550. (It's supposed to INCREASE your stability, by the way.)

Would it be possible to winterise the whole British Isles and perhaps the whole continent above the Alps and the Rhone watershed? Although winters were actually milder this period, it was much harder to keep a warband army in the field from one year to the next.

Here follows the beginnings of Gwynedd's king list.

GWYNEDD
Culture: british
Faith: Catholic
Starts 476 with WALES
Core: Wales
Friendly to: none
Hostile to: Mercia

start-01/03/534
Cadwallon Lawhir
DIP 5
ADM 4
MIL 5
start-517 general 3/3/2
(# supposedly - ap Einion Yrth and second in descent from Cunedda. Lawhir = 'Long Hand'.)

534-01/03/547
Maelgwn Gwynedd
DIP 5
ADM 3
MIL 6
534-539 general 3/3/2
(# or 'Hir', 'The Tall'. Infamous through Gildas. Expelled Irish from Ynys Mon. Died of plague.)

547-01/03/586
Rhun Hir ap Maelgwn
DIP 4
ADM 4
MIL 5
547-565 general 3/2/3

586-01/03/599
Beli ap Rhun
DIP 4
ADM 3
MIL 3
(# harboured Eadwine of Deira, was murdered by Aethelfrith of Bernicia)

599-01/03/616
Iago ap Beli
DIP 5
ADM 3
MIL 3
599-616 general 3/2/2
(# killed at Chester fighting Aethelfrith alongside Salomon of Powys)

Cadfan ap Iago
DIP 4
ADM 5
MIL 5
580-620

Cadwallon ap Cadfan THE ASSKICKER
 
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