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Fabbro, As I see it, 'Russia' didn´t exist any longer after the revolution, having been replaced by the soviet union.
Therefor, Russia was part of the entente all the time until brest-litovsk.
Italy, however was sort of a jojo or see-saw, all sides wanted it in their alliance, and it finally joined the entente, hence it shouldn´t be there at all. Because there is a probability that they will join the alliance they shouldn´t be in the entente ledger, and there is a probability that theyw ill join the entente, so it shouldn´t really be in the alliance ledger either.

And I don´t think that Italy was communist :D .


CASE CLOSED!
You can protest how much you want, but it will stay this way. if we keep debating the same things over and over again we will never get anything done.
 
ptan54 said:
If Allenby were German or American, why would he have the Union flag as his avatar?
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I am Finnish. And I'm quite nationalistic too. Yet I still use the USSR flag. Moral of the story: Do not judge people by their flags. :p
 
Lord Fabbro said:
Did it.
And for what I see, he is an american author, isn't he?
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He's an English professor of something or other, but not an historian. He wrote a book on the First World War. A bad one, too. :)
 
Zuckergußgebäck said:
Fabbro, As I see it, 'Russia' didn´t exist any longer after the revolution, having been replaced by the soviet union.
Therefor, Russia was part of the entente all the time until brest-litovsk.
Italy, however was sort of a jojo or see-saw, all sides wanted it in their alliance, and it finally joined the entente, hence it shouldn´t be there at all. Because there is a probability that they will join the alliance they shouldn´t be in the entente ledger, and there is a probability that theyw ill join the entente, so it shouldn´t really be in the alliance ledger either.
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Yes, but Russia was part of the front in the Triple Entente since 1912 or 1908, capisc?
Italy was part of the Triple Alliance ( without her, no treaty would have been made ) a lot of time before. My point is: let's show the two blocks as they were before the war, because it is more correct.

And I don´t think that Italy was communist :D .
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It took a long year before Mussolini's boys ( not those one who join the army in '41 to fight in Libia :D ) can teach communist not to occupy factories, after the two red years in 1919-1920. ;)

CASE CLOSED!
You can protest how much you want, but it will stay this way. if we keep debating the same things over and over again we will never get anything done.
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Well I'm not protesting and I am definitely not enjoying it.
I keep trying to get my point understood but it seems to me I am fighting againts wind-mills :D.

Well, I'm tired. After a couple of university exams passed, I'll try to tell you what I think ( mission impossible ) later.
 
Yes.

I'm currently playing with Bulgaria and I'm doing great!

Oh, BTW, I found Allenby! In the game! He has fortified himself and his two divisions at Istanbul( :rolleyes: )! I'm going to say hello to him with some HW and Artilery boosted divisions...
 
Nerfix said:
Yes.

I'm currently playing with Bulgaria and I'm doing great!

Oh, BTW, I found Allenby! In the game! He has fortified himself and his two divisions at Istanbul( :rolleyes: )! I'm going to say hello to him with some HW and Artilery boosted divisions...
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Yes alpinit v1.04b is 1.06 compatible.

Yes class, Allenby is an elusive fellow, but once found he tends to sit very still hoping that the prey does not see him. :)
 
Nerfix said:
Oh, BTW, I found Allenby! In the game! He has fortified himself and his two divisions at Istanbul( :rolleyes: )! I'm going to say hello to him with some HW and Artilery boosted divisions...
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Well Sir Edmund Allenby was arguably the greatest cavalryman since Oliver Cromwell.

And they were related. :)
 
Allenby said:
I'm waiting for John Mosier to demonstrate how Italy fought the First World War on the side of Germany and Austria-Hungary. :)
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I just bought his book 'The Myth of the Great War'


That bad? lol


CvM
 
Quick Question:

Do I need to do anything else besides what the instructions say? For EU2 I know you need a patch so time could go past 1820, but do I need to download something similar for HoI as well?
 
C.V. Mannerheim said:
I just bought his book 'The Myth of the Great War'


That bad? lol


CvM
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No the book is not that bad. There are just some forumites...cough...Allenby
...cough who dismiss all the man's work because it disagrees with his paradigm.

Overall I thought it was a good read. But as with any book dealing with a historical topic you must take some of it with a grain of salt on the basis that you weren't there to witness it...or if you are that old at least witness all the points from a first persons perspecitive.
 
C.V. Mannerheim said:
I just bought his book 'The Myth of the Great War'


That bad? lol


CvM
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Well he says the Germans won the battle of the Marne.

Terrific ;)
 
Anybody care to answer my question? Its a yes or no question, people.
 
General_Smith said:
Anybody care to answer my question? Its a yes or no question, people.
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StephenT's wonderful instructions include a part about a no-time limit patch for TGW. It is all included in the download.
 
The one-word answer is 'no'.

If you do what the instructions say you'll see that the second part of your question is, in fact, answered there. :)


And despite Shadow Knight's kind words about my installation instructions, I still can't agree with him on John Mosier. :)

Mosier is clearly a man who wants to make a name for himself by writing a "controversial" and "revisionist" history of WW1, and he skips right over any evidence that goes against his argument. (Which is, basically, that the German army was wonderful, the French and especially the British were utterly useless, and the Americans saved the day for the Entente). I think that the Battle of Amiens gets a dismissive one sentence brush-off, and the 100 Days isn't even mentioned, since they don't fit his theory; and last time this came up I think that somebody showed that his analysis of casualty figures accounted for only those Germans who were known to be killed outright, but for the British and French he included the "missing" - with the result that according to him, the Entente were taking two or three times the losses that the Germans suffered in each battle. :rolleyes:
 
Playing mostly as Britain I have noticed a strange change of behavior of the ai in this version. With the previous version, ai Germany woudl sortie it's fleet (North Sea) shortly after war broke out and try to break out of the British blockade (at least I assume they are supposed to do something, against me they never got past Scapa Flow). While that was unhistorically agressive behaviour, it neverless was somewhat realistic. Now, the German fleet seems to sortie en masse like before, but a week or two before war breaks out (would make sense for raiders etc. but not the main fleet) and they move through the British Channel not the North Sea. That almost automatically leads to several (as they split up by TF speed it seems) massive battles across the channel (the nice effect is it delays deployment of a BEF on the continent). Some ships it seems even passed by my screen (as I only sent that out mid July) and moved in the general direction of the Panama Canal (at least that's the only logical course) and ran out of fuel somewhere mid Atlantic (to be picked up by my armoured cruisers and battle cruisers). All in all this leads to a peace meal tearing apart of the German Fleet at little if any cost to Britain (as the Channel battles most likely will be fought by the old pre-dreadnaughts only). While most of the German ships will escape destruction, they will be so badly battered that they could not survive any real battle for months afterward (in at least one case the ai sortied again soon after with the remnant fleet to suicide on the freshly arrived Grand Fleet (minus 1st Squadron which I sent to refit (upgrade) late).

As a result, from september onwards no German fleet remained while no British dreadnaught had taken damage requiring serious repair (again meaning said dreadnaughts could be used to blockade Austria-Hungary and watch Turkey). (The majority of British pre-dreadnaughts thought was out of the action for months, many also having been sunk in the first hours of the war).

I'm not sure this apparently new strategy is due to changes in TGW. If it is it might need fixing (early sortying is a good idea as it will catch the British unaware, but the direction is wrong and pushing ships beyond the point of no return is suicide).

This also shows that pre-dreadnaughts are still to powerful (as my British pre-dreadnaughts butchered the German fleet including dreadnaughts and battlecruisers). Maybe those numbers (as well as armoured cruisers) need tweaking down some more.

The land war seems to go differently almost every game which is nice. Though I'm not sure what exactly triggers the trench war events. They definitelly should also happen when the entente is doing well against the central powers (in my current game I had British troops push the German ai back out of Belgium and Luxembourg, then advance into Germany (Köln, Essen only being stopped at Frankfurt (in the january snow storms after a long drawn out battle of attrition), the french likewise having advanced into Germany). If no trench events trigger here I could pobably march across Germany before the year is out (The Russians advanced as far as Berlin, then falling back to Dresden). In april where I stopped playing for now I was assembling a fresh British army to land on the German northern flank. (I had already conquered all of the German colonial territory including the tenacious defenders of Samoa (who required three invasions, first one division, then 2 and finally 4 with a battleship squadron in support), advanced deep into the Near East (Palestine, Trans-Jordan, Lebanon and Syria, the attack up the Euphrates was cancelled once I noticed the strength and command quality of the Turkish amrmy in Irak)). Oh and I forgot to mention the Serbs and Montenegrins attacking into Austro-Hungary (with a battleship division of mine in support).

In any case, it's fun to play TGW though the ai is too limited (but then the limit I believe largely comes from HOI, and so far no game of this scope exists which can provide a good ai (at least against a human player)).

Marc aka Caran... about to try that flank assault to unlock the German rhine defenses...
 
Sorry about that. It seems I missed that in the instructions.
 
The Bulgarian game is getting more and more surreal...

It is '34 and the war keeps going on...

The AI ought to be more agressive... Nothing, absolutely nothing has happened in the west front after '20... Excluding air battles.

Also, UK is way too hellbent on capturing Constantinopole... I have made a one skill lt. General to a 9 skill field marshall just by keeping him at Constantinopole... :wacko:
 
Tested a little.
This is "italy.inc" in version 1.04b, I have fixed the name of every single division. ( did you use a translation software?!?!?!? :rofl: ).
Fixed: destroyer named "cacciatorpediniere" ( barca della torpedine means nothing ); army division names; "Regina margherita" battleship ( misnamed in "margehrita" ); navy division names; flottilla translated in "flottiglia"; eliminated a lot of capital letters ( in italian, one capital letters is more than sufficient ;) ).

One other thing:
Militians can be renamed in "coscritti" ( not "coNscritti" );
And "Granatieri" ( under Guards ) are "Arditi" ( granatieri means grenaders ).

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        location = 893 # Taranto 
        division = { 
            id = { type = 23500 id = 526 } 
            name = "3a flottiglia" 
            type = destroyer 
            model = 0 
        } 
        division = { 
            id = { type = 23500 id = 527 } 
            name = "4a flottiglia" 
            type = destroyer 
            model = 0 
        } 
    } 
    navalunit = { 
        id = { type = 23500 id = 528 } 
	name = "2a divisione cacciatorpediniere" 
        leader = 27050 # Grixoni 
        location = 938 # Cagliari 
        division = { 
            id = { type = 23500 id = 529 } 
            name = "5a flottiglia" 
            type = destroyer 
            model = 0 
        } 
        division = { 
            id = { type = 23500 id = 530 } 
            name = "6a flottiglia" 
            type = destroyer 
            model = 0 
        } 
    } 
    navalunit = { 
        id = { type = 23500 id = 531 } 
	name = "4a divisione cacciatorpediniere" 
        leader = 27014 # Bonaldi 
        location = 567 # Venezia 
        division = { 
            id = { type = 23500 id = 532 } 
            name = "7a flottiglia" 
            type = destroyer 
            model = 1 
        } 
        division = { 
            id = { type = 23500 id = 533 } 
            name = "8a flottiglia" 
            type = destroyer 
            model = 0 
        } 
    } 
    navalunit = { 
        id = { type = 23500 id = 534 } 
	name = "1a divisione sottomarina" 
        # leader = Giovannini 
        location = 938 # Cagliari 
        division = { 
            id = { type = 23500 id = 535 } 
            name = "1a flottiglia" 
            type = submarine 
            model = 0 
        } 
    } 
    navalunit = { 
        id = { type = 23500 id = 536 } 
	name = "2a divisione sottomarina" 
        # leader = Mellana 
        location = 567 # Venezia 
        division = { 
            id = { type = 23500 id = 537 } 
            name = "2a flottiglia" 
            type = submarine 
            model = 0 
        } 
    } 
    navalunit = { 
        id = { type = 23500 id = 538 } 
	name = "Squadrone albanese" 
        leader = 27064 # Mellana 
        location = 754 # Tirana 
        division = { 
            id = { type = 23500 id = 539 } 
            name = "Dandolo" 
            type = battleship 
            model = 0 
        } 
        division = { 
            id = { type = 23500 id = 540 } 
            name = "9a flottiglia" 
            type = destroyer 
            model = 1 
        } 
    } 
    navalunit = { 
        id = { type = 23500 id = 541 } 
	name = "Squadrone di tripoli" 
        leader = 27032 # Castiglioni 
        location = 1085 # Tripoli 
        division = { 
            id = { type = 23500 id = 542 } 
            name = "9a flottiglia" 
            type = destroyer 
            model = 0 
        } 
    } 
    navalunit = { 
        id = { type = 23500 id = 543 } 
	name = "Squadrone di trasporto" 
        # leader = ? 
        location = 893 # Taranto 
        division = { 
            id = { type = 23500 id = 544 } 
            name = "10a flottiglia" 
            type = transport 
            model = 0 
        } 
        division = { 
            id = { type = 23500 id = 545 } 
            name = "11a flottiglia" 
            type = transport 
            model = 0 
        } 
        division = { 
            id = { type = 23500 id = 546 } 
            name = "12a flottiglia" 
            type = transport 
            model = 0 
        } 
    } 
    airunit = { 
        id = { type = 23500 id = 1000 } 
        name = "1^ corpo dell'aeronautica" 
        leader = 27067 # Moris 
        location = 912 # Milano 
        division = { 
            id = { type = 23500 id = 1001 } 
            name = "1^ gruppo" 
            strength = 100 
            type = naval_bomber 
            model = 1 
        } 
    } 
    airunit = { 
        id = { type = 23500 id = 1002 } 
        name = "2^ corpo dell'aeronautica" 
        leader = 27134 # Orsini 
        location = 901 # Napoli 
        division = { 
            id = { type = 23500 id = 1003 } 
            name = "2^ gruppo" 
            strength = 50 
            type = naval_bomber 
            model = 1 
        } 
    } 
    development = { 
        id = { type = 23500 id = 547 } 
        name = "Giulio Cesare" 
        type = battleship 
        model = 3 
        cost = 10 
        date = { year = 1914 month = may day = 14 } 
    } 
    development = { 
        id = { type = 23500 id = 548 } 
        name = "Leonardo da Vinci" 
        type = battleship 
        model = 3 
        cost = 10 
        date = { year = 1914 month = may day = 17 } 
    } 
    development = { 
        id = { type = 23500 id = 549 } 
        name = "Conte di Cavour" 
        type = battleship 
        model = 3 
        cost = 10 
        date = { year = 1915 month = april day = 1 } 
    } 
    development = { 
        id = { type = 23500 id = 550 } 
        name = "Caio Duilio" 
        type = battleship 
        model = 3 
        cost = 10 
        date = { year = 1915 month = may day = 10 } 
    } 
    development = { 
        id = { type = 23500 id = 551 } 
        name = "Andrea Doria" 
        type = battleship 
        model = 3 
        cost = 10 
        date = { year = 1916 month = march day = 13 } 
    }
    convoy = { # to Sardinia
        id = { type = 23500 id = 552 } 
        transports = 8 
        escorts = 0 
        rubber = no 
        coal = no 
        steel = no 
        oil = yes 
        supplies = yes 
        path = { 908 909 938
        } 
    }
    convoy = { # to Tripoli
        id = { type = 23500 id = 553 } 
        transports = 10 
        escorts = 0 
        rubber = no 
        coal = no 
        steel = no 
        oil = yes 
        supplies = yes 
        path = { 908 909 899 1085
        } 
    }
    convoy = { # to Asmera
        id = { type = 23500 id = 554 } 
        transports = 22 
        escorts = 0 
        rubber = no 
        coal = no 
        steel = no 
        oil = yes 
        supplies = yes 
        path = { 908 909 899 895 888 886 1207 1204 1286 1285
        } 
    }
    convoy = { # to Mogadishu
        id = { type = 23500 id = 555 } 
        transports = 34 
        escorts = 0 
        rubber = no 
        coal = no 
        steel = no 
        oil = yes 
        supplies = yes 
        path = { 908 909 899 895 888 886 1207 1204 1286 1292 1291 1343 1339 1338 1303 1302
        } 
    } 
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    deactivate = { } 
    leadertable = { } 
    diplomaticdates = { } 
    wardates = { } 
    }
 
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