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Can’t believe how conservative I was back in 2019 plotting for a mid-century political crisis that involved three premiers in three years. Amateur numbers…

Hardly, the parliament setup as it is, you can absolutely have several leaders in quick succession if the party is at war with itself but doesn't have to call an election.

It's amazing that it's the tory party though, given how many HOI AARs go into how tightly controlled and cold blooded the tory grandees used to be about leadership and continuity.
 
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Hardly, the parliament setup as it is, you can absolutely have several leaders in quick succession if the party is at war with itself but doesn't have to call an election.

It's amazing that it's the tory party though, given how many HOI AARs go into how tightly controlled and cold blooded the tory grandees used to be about leadership and continuity.
Quite so. But then the Tories have hardly had that old-school grandee setup for a long time. Says a lot when people who were last ministers in the Nineties routinely still appear as elder statesmen, with barely anyone in between.

Incidentally I just saw a Times article whose headline was almost exactly the same as Roy Jenkins’ “book” on David Lewis – long rise, rapid fall, that sort of thing. Reminds me that I realised the other day that it’s been 464 days (and counting) since I started publishing chapters about Lewis’s “longest year” – a period which lasted 371 days “in-world”. Obviously amateur numbers compared to @El Pip, but dare I say we’re creeping with all due lack of pace towards slower than real time? :p
 
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Incidentally I just saw a Times article
Can recommend medical supplement for eye and brain health against mind-poisoning by exposure to ultra-rubbish, if it was not any longer than ten-fifteen minutes. In any case, stay at home but notify your close contacts, and consult the local doctor for treatment.
 
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Can recommend medical supplement for eye and brain health against mind-poisoning by exposure to ultra-rubbish, if it was not any longer than ten-fifteen minutes. In any case, stay at home but notify your close contacts, and consult the local doctor for treatment.
It was a passing glance as I scrolled through an otherwise Timesless twitter feed, so I’m hoping to get away with it without unleashing a whole new strain of mushy-brained rightism on my nearest and dearest. But always good to be vigilant.
 
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I learn from our resident voter-gatherer @Nikolai that there is a week left to make your voice heard in the Q3 ACA's. Please do go and vote! :D (I certainly will be next week.)


I had blithely assumed, seeing as I'm averaging one update per quarter at the moment, that Echoes would not be eligible. It turns out it is – just. Don't feel in any way obliged to vote for it, though. Supporting the ACA's is the important thing.

In other news – I'm actually starting work on the next chapter this afternoon! It would be nice to say I could have something written by the end of November, but we'll see. I'm not going to aim for the same gargantuan length as the last couple, so we'll see. The wheels are finally in motion again, anyway.
 
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I had blithely assumed, seeing as I'm averaging one update per quarter at the moment, that Echoes would not be eligible. It turns out it is – just. Don't feel in any way obliged to vote for it, though.
"just" - mate, that chapter "In Place of Strife: Lewis in the minority (Part Two: Red Autumn I)" is more than enough to be eligible, just as it was so with the "In Place of Strife: Lewis in the minority (Part One: A History of 'Common Beat')" for Q2; they contain more details for this extraordinary story-aar of fantasy-induced pseudo-revolution (overtly obvious criticism; yeah, cannot forget that sucker-kick-in-the-guts with that initial... err... ummm... figure at the beginning of the aar.) than any of whatever self has written as an aar combined so far.

Kudos. And yes, it is mandatory to vote for this aar.


In other news – I'm actually starting work on the next chapter this afternoon! It would be nice to say I could have something written by the end of November, but we'll see. I'm not going to aim for the same gargantuan length as the last couple, so we'll see. The wheels are finally in motion again, anyway.
Good.
Though that's a handful we'll see's for considering the future plans. It reminds own we'll see's about necro-commenting on the re-read parts, i.e. to be able to get out of the Bevanite parts.
Still not comprehensible, why Bevan was sacrificed in the story to be the embodiment of falling hopes in demise, and - no, have no courage, nor stamina to start another world-war-of-keyboard-discussion, for own frustrations. Let it go, filcat. It is an aar-story. The david lewis of it has been on the rise, and aptly documented by the roy jenkins of the story. What were you expecting? Engels Jr? An Indian Lenin arriving at Edinburgh? A Cornish Fidel rising up from Cornwall? Let it go. Now you can only hope that th*tcher does not show up as a prominent figure more than an amoeba it was. Ysshhh. Have to clean-up; have written th*tcher. Doh, again. Sht.

Write, write more, and all will be read.
 
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Writing is going slower than planned (turns out you can't just go back straight away to notes you wrote a year ago and keep going… who would've thought?!) but the ball remains in motion. I'm hopeful for a late November/early December release with Lewis's current crisis all tied up. Then I'm thinking of moving into a few shorter vignettes to take us into 1968.

Which is going to be another big year folks. Buckle up…

Though that's a handful we'll see's for considering the future plans. It reminds own we'll see's about necro-commenting on the re-read parts, i.e. to be able to get out of the Bevanite parts.
I was very annoyed at myself when I realised I had snuck in two "we'll see's" into as many phrases. But, alas, they are probably necessary. As with everything, we will indeed see.

As for Bevan… comment away my friend!

Still not comprehensible, why Bevan was sacrificed in the story to be the embodiment of falling hopes in demise, and - no, have no courage, nor stamina to start another world-war-of-keyboard-discussion, for own frustrations. Let it go, filcat. It is an aar-story.
Hmm… Yes, I did feel a bit bad at the time about offing Bevan in that way, in the midst of deep personal and political crisis. On balance, though, I think he had an alright time of it. He lived seven more years than OTL, for one thing – but his time was always coming. No one works down the pits from the age of 14 and lives too long to tell the tale…

The embodiment of falling hopes, though – I'm not so sure. Certainly, the Bevan years will be remembered as a time of missed opportunities – sometimes complacent, sometimes over-cautious – but overall I think he did a pretty decent job with what was given to him. Or I've tried to write that level of balance into things, anyway. He was fast in reform when he needed to be (often, it must be said, with Lewis's help, as in the Jenkins-style reforms) and was fairly comprehensive in ridding the Establishment of its last Mosleyite vestiges. But he was never a messiah – and being born in the 19th century he was only ever so well equipped to deal with problems in the second half of the 20th.

Where he succeeded was in forestalling a total post-Mosley collapse, which is going to be invaluable for his younger followers once they finally get into power.

The david lewis of it has been on the rise, and aptly documented by the roy jenkins of the story. What were you expecting? Engels Jr? An Indian Lenin arriving at Edinburgh? A Cornish Fidel rising up from Cornwall? Let it go.
I sometimes feel I've been a bit unfair to Lewis. He's a very strange blend of pragmatist and dogmatist, and I think it will only be once the dust settles on the current turmoil that people will be able to judge his legacy fairly. But he did as much to fell Mosley as anyone, and more importantly he was instrumental in rolling back Mosley's authoritarianism.

I think the most generous way one could frame a critique of his position would be that he is far too convinced of the benevolence of the British state. In many ways, he is a massive idealist and one of the Commonwealth's biggest defenders. But he suffers from the Fabian faith in 'good' government and is too crude in his view of how the unions fit into the equation. Progressive problems lapsing, ironically, into the very thing which he spent so long fighting against (but he would never see it that way).

In 1981 there'll be a massive debate in the Assembly whether or not to name him a Hero of the Commonwealth. I still haven't decided just which way the members will go on that occasion. The 1970's are going to throw his reputation in all sorts of directions, mind.

On which note…

Now you can only hope that th*tcher does not show up as a prominent figure more than an amoeba it was. Ysshhh. Have to clean-up; have written th*tcher. Doh, again. Sht.
Do you want the good news or the bad news first?

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General note to mark the fact that today is the 10th anniversary of my very first AAR, the ill-fated CK2 narrative In the Footsteps of Charlemagne. I think this means it's my tenth annivAARsary (anniversAARy? AARnniversary?) so indulge me as I say: Here's to ten more! (and here's to having finished Echoes before we get there…)
 
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Do you want the good news or the bad news first?
I fear you and I will have very different definitions of 'good' and 'bad' when the answers to those questions are revealed.
 
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I fear you and I will have very different definitions of 'good' and 'bad' when the answers to those questions are revealed.
Hmm. Probably.

My money is on no one being satisfied.
 
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My money is on no one being satisfied.
Entirely appropriate for the Commonwealth then.
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Having not read this AAR since last April (because I am a procrastinator at everything), I have found my comfiest reading chair and caught up again on this incredible adventure through alternate history.

Part One
All You Need Is Love: A History of ‘Common Beat’

This update is simply fantastic. Music has always been a reflection of the time, so taking a look at music in the Commonwealth during this period reveals a lot.

Being a Buddy Holly fan myself, I got a particular kick out of seeing how he fares TTL. :cool:

The answer, I think, is to give myself three more months to work at it in the hope that all my troubles simply melt away…

From the perspective of an American, British Prime Ministers just seem to simply melt.

Hope is a dangerous thing, considering the current situation involves the Richest Person in Parliament and a Maggie Cosplayer on Day-Release attacking, uhh, The Other One for being insufficiently worked up about gendered bathrooms.

What? o_O

I'm not sure exactly how freely available BBC Rewind is across the world, but for those who can take advantage of it, I'd highly recommend delving into the archives for a little bit. There's some cracking stuff.

"Thank you for coming to Rewind. This content is currently only available to audiences in the UK."

The downside of being an American.

It’s a dark day indeed when Echoes finds itself being topical

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(via the Telegraph)
What is she going to do when the strikes carry on because changing the threshold changes nothing?
Presumably at that stage she goes back to her Maggie cosplaying, only this time she actually goes through with the ‘enemy within’ speech and people end up coming to harm.

This conversation about Liz Truss, which took place back in July, is funny to read now. :p

I think I actually genuinely forgot he existed. Otherwise I'm sure I would have at least thought about some kind of joke.

Even Paradox have a dim view of him to be honest. You have to go into the reeds of the alt fascist option to get him in power, and that's as a mechanically worse and secondary alternative to the default Kings Party with Edward and DLG.

This may well be the only AAr ever to star or have Mosley in a majority role.

I didn't know he even existed until I started playing HOI2.

Oh I know there is a small difference between the factions on how industries are organised, but it appears the choice is crap service under useless central planners or crap service under incompetent union shop stewards. It's hard to get excited either way.

And yet people get excited by who will give them crap service.

Oh, I dunno... I haven't been to England. I can say that I have been to some charming places in this country. Mystic, Connecticut...

It's a small world after all. I grew up in Groton, which is near Mystic. I went there all the time as a kid. It's certainly a charming place as you say. :D

By which I of course mean frittering the days away half-heartedly searching for jobs, catching up on reading for pleasure, preparing myself psychically for the horror of 'LIz Truss's Britain'...

Don't worry, DensleyBlair. That horror won't last long.

By my count, there will now have been three different prime ministers in between the last update and the next. God bless Liz Truss for making John Strachey look like a political titan!

Something she can proudly put on her tombstone.
 
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Back on the trail again after a hectic and distracting last part of 2022. A passing comment from back in 1934, where I’m up to at the moment:
Mosley announced an immediate escalation of existing emergency measures designed to counter-act the fascist threat.
and quickly he was being hailed as the defeater of British fascism.
I still find these references amusingly discordant (as I am sure they’re meant to be ;) ) as I happen upon them. Especially having lambasted the man so often in some of my own AAR writing.:D
 
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Having not read this AAR since last April (because I am a procrastinator at everything), I have found my comfiest reading chair and caught up again on this incredible adventure through alternate history.
Welcome back Nathan! Always a pleasure to hear from you. :)

This update is simply fantastic. Music has always been a reflection of the time, so taking a look at music in the Commonwealth during this period reveals a lot.

Being a Buddy Holly fan myself, I got a particular kick out of seeing how he fares TTL. :cool:
Glad you enjoyed it! It was an update I'd been wanting to write in some form or other for a couple of years. Doing Buddy justice was always part of the plan. :D

From the perspective of an American, British Prime Ministers just seem to simply melt.
Rish! certainly seems to have done so. I frequently have to remind myself he is actually the PM (especially as his disappearing act is entirely intentional and he's just trying to ride out the storm until 2024). Shame even an absent prime minister can still wage draconian laws against the unions, but hey – lends a bit of colour to what David Lewis is up to, I suppose.

"Thank you for coming to Rewind. This content is currently only available to audiences in the UK."

The downside of being an American.
Ah, sorry Nathan!

There is the odd clip available on Youtube, if that helps – though again, might be hidden if you're not in the UK…

This conversation about Liz Truss, which took place back in July, is funny to read now. :p
To this day I genuinely cannot believe how that affair all played out. As I said at the time, I seriously began to question whether the end-of-volume 'chaos' I'd been planning for about two years was actually just small change compared to good old real life. Incredible to think the Tories would see Echoes and say: 'Hold my champagne', but here we are. :p

I didn't know he even existed until I started playing HOI2.
I am very sorry to have taken you out of your ignorance. :D

I still find these references amusingly discordant (as I am sure they’re meant to be ;) ) as I happen upon them. Especially having lambasted the man so often in some of my own AAR writing.:D
Glad to hear some more of your thoughts, Bullfilter! Yes, there is definitely a heavy dose of irony to be had with a lot of those earlier chapters. Particularly from where I'm standing, it feels like a long way gone since I was making dark jokes about the anti-fascist Mosley. It only took three years or so, but at long last I too got to join the ranks of the lambasters. :p

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Thanks to those who have been catching up or reading back over the last few months, and a moderately belated Happy New Year to all in the Echoes community. I had hoped to ring in the new year with an update, but it's still only about half done. Been very sidetracked recently with a few things, none of them terribly fun but all of them very necessary to the work of 'being able to afford London life' and 'not being homeless'.

The next chapter does exist, though, so fingers crossed 2023 might actually see the completion of Volume 1. Though I appreciate this sounds more like a pipe dream with every passing year.

I will say, though, that voting is ongoing in two places at the moment. One is the Q4 ACAs, which Echoes is not, so far as I'm aware, eligible for, but which you should all vote in anyway. The second, a bit more significantly, are the 2022 Yearly AARland Year-End AwAARds – the prized 'YAYAs' – which @coz1 is once again co-ordinating. Go and do AARland a favour and take a few minutes to vote in each. The ACA's are open till Sunday February 5, while the YAYAs remain open until the day before, Saturday February 4. I will be filling out my own ballots within in due course, (though I've got two job interviews next week so it may not be till after then…)

Otherwise, see you all for the next chapter, hopefully before too long. :D
 
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Not an important post so feel free to ignore, but for those who enjoy the BBC Archive materials I've been back browsing again this evening and I was really struck by this piece about life in Leicester from 1964:


The tone general outlook struck me as remarkably reminiscent of the Commonwealth 1965 quartet from this time two years ago (and how on earth is it two years?!). For anyone who enjoyed those chapters, I'd highly recommend watching the above for an almost-perfect compare-and-contrast with life in our own timeline's Britain at almost exactly the same historical moment.
 
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Last couple of days to vote in the YAYAs and we’re only one (1!) ballot away from hitting @coz1 ‘s 20-vote target and thus avoiding the dreaded extension. I think everyone who actively reads this thread has already voted, but if not:

Go and vote!

(In other news: update will be out by the end of the quarter. Hold me to it.)
 
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(In other news: update will be out by the end of the quarter. Hold me to it.)
I am taking this to mean December 2025, that being the end of the quarter of the current century.
 
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I am taking this to mean December 2025, that being the end of the quarter of the current century.
Your intuitions, as ever, are impeccable Sir Pip.
 
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The next chapter does exist, though, so fingers crossed 2023 might actually see the completion of Volume 1. Though I appreciate this sounds more like a pipe dream with every passing year.

It is good to have a dream to pursue, DensleyBlair. :)

You will have a great feeling of accomplishment to have this AAR completed, whenever that day comes.


Congrats! A well-deserved award.
 
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Hello everyone,

Apologies for my most recent disappearing act. I forget where exactly on the boards I made all my various life announcements earlier in the year, but as we hurtle unreasonably quickly towards the halfway point of the year I will give a little round-up. At the end of February I started a new job, which has been keeping me very busy indeed, and alongside that I've been doing what feels like a million other things – all very worthwhile, but all quite demanding. Amongst all this, well-intentioned hopes of working regularly on Echoes have so far fallen by the wayside – even if it remains very present in my thoughts.

That said, at the risk of raising hopes again, I am back writing and slowly plugging away at the conclusion of volume one – recently re-energised by having watched Our Friends in the North on the iPlayer and remembered all about my enthusiasm for getting to the meaty Seventies and Eighties. @El Pip's prediction of a new chapter before the end of the quarter of the century is well on track, and I dare say by Pip's standards improperly ahead of schedule. I'm not going to put a date on when I think the next instalment will be ready, but it's about a quarter finished so very much on the way.

In the meantime…

Congrats on such a hard-fought victory @DensleyBlair!

2022 Historybook AAR of the Year
Congrats! A well-deserved award.
Thank you both!

I recall acknowledging the win over in the awAARds thread itself (I hope I did, anyway…) but I will say it again: very, very sincere thanks to all who voted for Echoes in all categories last year. To have been in consideration for anything having only published about two chapters was a considerable honour, and I remain hugely grateful for all of your support.

It is good to have a dream to pursue, DensleyBlair. :)

You will have a great feeling of accomplishment to have this AAR completed, whenever that day comes.
It will be a massive feeling of accomplishment! Amazingly, Echoes is just about still on track to be my first ever finished AAR – and I've been writing the things for about 11 years. Even if progress slows down towards the finish line, we'll get there ;)
 
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