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Originally posted by Mad King James
the county should still be able to revolt :p
makes no sense for certain parts of europe to always be able to revolt and others 'just can't' :rolleyes:
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Actually it makes perfect sense. When they revolt they screw everything up - Holland (Netherlands) can't form normally because the county still sits on half of their provinces. Oh, and did I mention their great colonization sprees?
 
Originally posted by Crook


Actually it makes perfect sense. When they revolt they screw everything up - Holland (Netherlands) can't form normally because the county still sits on half of their provinces. Oh, and did I mention their great colonization sprees?
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Does the County of Holland have any "Join the Dutch republic" events?

If it can be made to work I'd support having it as a revolter, but limited in date to where the Netherlands can start to form (so you don't have Holland revolting from the Netherlands, or vice versa).
 
It does.

Added: And Holland revolting from the Netherlands isn't totally ridiculous. Generally, Holland drove Dutch policy and the other provinces just went along. But a situation where the relationship broke down to the point that Holland would have preferred to go their own way (or the other 6 provinces decided to do so) isn't outrageous. Although the DP sliders are backwards (with the non-Holland Netherlands being naval, plutocratic and free trade!).
 
Isaac Brock

It does.

Added: And Holland revolting from the Netherlands isn't totally ridiculous. Generally, Holland drove Dutch policy and the other provinces just went along. But a situation where the relationship broke down to the point that Holland would have preferred to go their own way (or the other 6 provinces decided to do so) isn't outrageous. Although the DP sliders are backwards (with the non-Holland Netherlands being naval, plutocratic and free trade!). .
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You are absolutely right about the possibility of Holland going its own way. In times of peace there have been some occasions in dutch history where Holland would almost end the cooperation with the other provences, or where the others would go without Holland. Provences like Friesland, Gelderland (Gelre) and Zeeland
where sometimes annoyed by Hollands dominant position and behaviour and threatend to go there own way.


If you want I can give you some examples.
 
Crook:

Do you think by 1.2 you can have a different installation method? What i mean is i'd like to run the Wales and Byzantium fantasy options perhaps, but i don't want to install the holland option (i think its just as likely as an independant iceland).

As it stands right now, its all or nothing.
 
Originally posted by Jinnai
Crook:

Do you think by 1.2 you can have a different installation method? What i mean is i'd like to run the Wales and Byzantium fantasy options perhaps, but i don't want to install the holland option (i think its just as likely as an independant iceland).

As it stands right now, its all or nothing.
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I know what you mean. But fortunately it is not too hard to manually remove the county of holland. If you can't figure out how to do it, I'm sure someone can be helpful enough to give you the procedures...
 
I'm not entirely sure how you'd do it, but I do somehow wish they could be greater customizability in EEP, something like the IGC setup.

Personally I like paradox's 1.05 set-up for COTs and AI filed, and wish I could only install the EEP events.
 
Originally posted by Crook
It's possible, but since it will require a lot of choices, I'd rather not do it now (then we will have people demanding that only particular events are installed).
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Hmm well the longer you wait, the harder it will be to integrate that once you decide to do it. And choosing which events to install/not to install is a bit much work to do. I'm talking about just things that are ahistorical.

Anyways, I checked the HYD events and saw a few things...you use the names Bahamí and Bijapur interchangably (because of the timeline and the fact they were 2 nations) within that one nation of Hyberdad we are using to represent them.

2nd, the player/AI should have a choice as whether to hire Mahmud Gawan as prime minister, giving bonus/penalty to aristocracy, centralization and stability (and sleeping the relavant events if you choose not to). The reason is he was opposed by many of the nobles at the time.

3rd, again with Mahmud Gawan, he should affect the DIP and ADM but not military (only benifit as he did most of the work during his reign as PM). If you choose not to kill him then these should continue for X amount of time, though maybe at slightly lower setting for them.
 
Originally posted by Crook
It's possible, but since it will require a lot of choices, I'd rather not do it now (then we will have people demanding that only particular events are installed).
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My opinion (without knowing the work that would be required) is that it would be a good idea to have separate install options for each of the fantasy choices (Byzantium, Wales, etc.), & one other option to use Paradox or EEP COT settings. Beyond that, I would draw a very strict line that it is either all EEP event or none, considering (a) the amount of work to create options for each country; & (b) the fact that the events for many countries are very intermixed, & would be nearly impossible to untangle effectively. I don't know if this is feasible or manageable, and it shouldn't be a #1 priority.
 
Originally posted by UnionBuster
Don't know if this is a bug with the EEP install, but after a few days of having it installed with my game (v. 1.05), my save game files became unusable. They would crash the game while loading up. Happened on multiple occassions.
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This appears to be a problem related to the province 418 (La Rochelle) being on the hands of both England and France in the setup .inc files, as has been pointed out by someone in this forum.
:)
 
I was playing a hands off game with Zimbowe and noticed before i initated the columbus cheat that they had knowledge of the island of Zanzubar, but not the knowledge to get to it. Should that be so?
 
Originally posted by Jinnai
I was playing a hands off game with Zimbowe and noticed before i initated the columbus cheat that they had knowledge of the island of Zanzubar, but not the knowledge to get to it. Should that be so?
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They must have autodiscovered the CoT. This is not a EEP bug, I don't think...
 
Originally posted by Captain Krunch
They must have autodiscovered the CoT. This is not a EEP bug, I don't think...
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Its at the start of the game...though your probably right...i'll go and post this on the bug forum.
 
Crook - Amber Knight has discovered the problem that was causing the CTD's when, as England, a player tried to annex France. Apparently, province 418 (Poitou) is listed in both the English & French 1419 scenario files. This seems to cause the CTD when annexing France. Would it be possible to remove the references to Poitou from the English file, & post a v1.1b of the EEP at Havard's site? This is a serious problem for anyone playing as England. I can e-mail you the revised 1419_eng file if you like, or just removed 418 from the list of English owned & controlled provinces, & remove the city reference to 418 lower down in the file. Amber Knight has posted more details in the "CTD as England" thread.
 
Originally posted by Johnny Canuck
Crook - Amber Knight has discovered the problem that was causing the CTD's when, as England, a player tried to annex France. Apparently, province 418 (Poitou) is listed in both the English & French 1419 scenario files. This seems to cause the CTD when annexing France. Would it be possible to remove the references to Poitou from the English file, & post a v1.1b of the EEP at Havard's site? This is a serious problem for anyone playing as England. I can e-mail you the revised 1419_eng file if you like, or just removed 418 from the list of English owned & controlled provinces, & remove the city reference to 418 lower down in the file. Amber Knight has posted more details in the "CTD as England" thread.
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I thought La Rochelle was in English hands -- I didn't edit the 1419_eng.inc, but I had to modify 1419_fra.inc to adjust for MKJ changes for County of Holland. I'll see what I can do, considering we're about half-way to 1.2, and I'm 5 days from going on vacation.
 
Originally posted by Crook


I thought La Rochelle was in English hands -- I didn't edit the 1419_eng.inc, but I had to modify 1419_fra.inc to adjust for MKJ changes for County of Holland. I'll see what I can do, considering we're about half-way to 1.2, and I'm 5 days from going on vacation.
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If you don't think you'll have time, I can see if Havard will let me post the modified 1419_eng file on his site, & just tell people to download it & overwrite the existing 1419_eng file. You certainly have earned a vacation!

BTW, generally speaking, when are you thinking of for a v1.2? We have some ideas underway in the British Isles thread, but it will be a while before they are done.
 
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