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And there will always be spies.

This made me spit my drink.From the Tower of London you can see a bit of England...
I suppose that depends upon the definition of "alive" as she certainly did live and well...in her mind.The more relevant question is, was she ever actually alive on the inside? I'm leaning no.
A lot of the reason Jasper has not featured much lately is that he is in hiding. He really doesn't want to be seen with any party. You could say that he is keeping his options open. Especially now that Cecily has control of his nephew.Speaking of dead on the inside, Jasper Tudor clearly can't have that healthy a brain if he's still trying to be friendly with Margaret. Any possible benefit from those remaining spies is surely out-weighed by the fact everyone hates her and she will drive away more support than she will bring.
The one that excommunicated him, of course. That was quite some time ago.Wait, Margaret still has spies in England? It looks like Richard needs to do a little... purging.
What pope is the Duke of Anjou ranting against?
And there will always be spies.
There were plenty of people back in this period that would "hold their powder" knowing that their true loyalties were still with Henry (and thus Margaret.)If by spies they mean people who will talk to them...and by strong chance she will be queen again they mean not a hope in hell.
The question now is not if Henry gets the throne back, it's how long before all three get killed. And who Warwick would therefore back if he feels he's on the outs with Edmund.
No one with any sense (so anyone not currently being the former queen's lover) thinks she is a viable party anymore.
And Dr. Morton is indeed a good example of this type of person. Or at least will be when he returns to England.There probably is a faction of people who know they are in serious disfavour (or worse) with Richard and so will back any rival, there are also those who still take their oaths seriously and so feel loyalty to Henry and his cause. John Morton from the previous scene is probably a mix of both, and his OTL trajectory proves it is not a stupid hope, he was in exile with Margaret but ended up as Lord Chancellor and Archbishop of Canterbury under Henry VII.
That said conditions are far less favourable here so I agree it is much more likely to end badly, I also agree that if it was just Margaret alone then she would have no support at all. But while Henry and 'his' son still live she can probably find some support by pretending she is advancing their cause, however to be clear Jasper Tudor is still an idiot for backing her. He's not the loyal sort and not in so much trouble with Richard he needs to take such a desperate gamble.
Again...Chad?Yes but that's Chad Tudor and his amazing habit of making former enemies into loyal and competent administrators.
Here, Jasper Tudor is banging his head against the wall and hoping the extremely loyal and consistent former Queen (definitely) will reward him for his treason.
There is reason that this is called "Wars" of the Roses and not "War."Always good to be reminded there's a pot boiling somewhere... and a woman that wants to put Richard's head in it.
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Again I think it has much to do with loyalty to Henry and Margaret remains a pretty picture even with her losses. Yet some might still be inspired by her supposed strength when this began even if it ended up like this. Sure, there are plenty that know that their lives are over if they ever see Richard. But some still hold out hope for a return of Henry VI as King and see Richard as an usurper.That conjures a pleasant picture.
Does Margaret truly inspire such loyalty or is it more like faux-loyalty because everyone involved fears the wrath of Richard?
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