Ah I see a PU, sure that's fine I guessPrato is ruled by King Robert of Anjou.
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Ah I see a PU, sure that's fine I guessPrato is ruled by King Robert of Anjou.
It was independent from 1288 onwards. Cologne's archbishop was no longer permitted to enter the city except for liturgical reasons.It wasn't yet a thing in 1337
Yeah a lot of cities have similar flagsI see a bunch of repeat flags in the HRE box, WIP or accurate?
It will take a while, we are now focusing more on the review of locations and other aspects of Tinto Maps, and will probably concentrate the pop review in 'batches' later on, as it's now more efficient to do it this way. But we haven't forgotten about any regions with pending pop reviews, don't worry about that.any news regarding the Levant culture and religion feedback maps?
A separate feedback post just with the European natural harbors.What does this mean, O @Pavía?
What's happening with around Bremen and Hamburg with the Hanseatic League? In the country map mode there is a Hanseatic League tag but in the International Organisation map mode it appears as Brema.
Agreed, I spent some time staring at the Netherlands to see if anything's changed but there's still a fair amount of locations and goods I'm not too happy with. That and the language is a bit silly, but I think that's just gonna be a consequence of the game's language system and can't be solved.I hope a second quick review of the Low Countries will be done, as it was the first Tinto Maps and review, thus had no standard to be compared to (even though I understand that the priority for this is probably for after every other region has been reviewed). When it comes to changes to the Dutch German border. I don't understand why Kleve and Wesel are in different provinces/areas. A better division would be Kleve and Wezel in Niederrhein and Geldern to Limbourg (the name is still anachronistic and should be Opper-Gelre). This might leave Gladbach isolated, but that location could just as well be in the Julïch province.
There are plenty of maps with the dialectal distribution of German, and we have though and discussed it quite in-depth, including our German content designers, of course. We still think this is the best possible division for the region.I think there were a lot of questions for Angrian and Markish/Brandenburgish (there should be only one of them).
In what way they have been addressed?
Many people argue it is an incorrect division
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That's fantastic! Looking forward to the thread!A separate feedback post just with the European natural harbors.
Why? They already got their reviews.sooo
given that even Germany got + 40 locations, any chances about a feedback - feedback of Italy and France?
ah alright, also would be nice if youd add the missing maps to the iberia and low countries feedback postsIt will take a while, we are now focusing more on the review of locations and other aspects of Tinto Maps, and will probably concentrate the pop review in 'batches' later on, as it's now more efficient to do it this way. But we haven't forgotten about any regions with pending pop reviews, don't worry about that.![]()
Hello, and welcome to another Tinto Maps Feedback post! Today we will look at the review of Germany, or to be more precise, the remaining lands of the HRE that were not covered in previous updates. Let's look first at the list of changes:
ADDITIONS
Added the following:
CORRECTIONS
- Locations (46 + 5 Lakes + several Wastelands)
- Achim
- Annaburg
- Aschendorf
- Baden im Aargau
- Beichlingen
- Bochum
- Bonndorf
- Bremervörde
- Bützow
- Delmenhorst
- Disentis
- Ebstorf
- Erbach
- Freyburg
- Fürstenberg
- Gotha
- Heiligenhafen
- Helfenstein
- Illereichen
- Immenstadt
- Isenhagen
- La Roche-sur-Foron
- Landau
- Lüchow
- Malchow
- Marienstern
- Meinersen
- Meisenheim
- Neustadt an der Haardt
- Ohrdruf
- Oppenheim
- Pinneberg
- Pritzwalk
- Sallanches
- Saulgau
- Solingen
- Stockach
- Toggenburg
- Třeboň
- Treuenbrietzen
- Wertingen
- Winsen an der Aller
- Wittenberge
- Wolhusen
- Wurzen
- Zossen
- Lakes
- Lake Chiemsee
- Lake Lucerne
- Lake Müritz
- Lake Starnberg
- Lake Zürich
- Wastelands
- Divided many Wastelands in more pieces.
- TAGs (52)
- Aosta
- Beeskow-Starkow
- Beichlingen
- Belmont (Switzerland)
- Brandenburg (Bishopric)
- Colmar (Free City)
- Disentis
- Ellwangen
- Everstein
- Falkenstein
- Fürstenberg
- Gleichen
- God's House League
- Grey League
- Gruyère
- Gurk
- Hachberg (Baden)
- Haguenau
- Heidenheim
- Helfenstein
- Hohenzollern
- Holstein Pinneberg
- Jever
- Kirchberg
- Landau
- Lebus (Bishopric)
- Lichtenberg
- Manderscheid
- Meissen (Bishopric)
- Mesocco
- Mulhouse (Free City)
- Murbach
- Nassau Dillenburg
- Nassau Idstein
- Nassau Siegen
- Nassau Weilburg
- Nellenburg
- Nidda
- Pfalz Simmern Zweibrücken
- Riedesel
- Rietberg
- Saarwerden
- Sausenberg
- Strasbourg (Free City)
- Toggenburg
- Truhendingen
- Tübingen
- Veldenz
- Waldeck
- Wernigerode
- Wied
- Characters
- bdb_ludwig_schenk_von_neindorf (Bishopric of Brandenburg)
- bhl_friedrich_von_beichlingen
- bhl_friedrich_von_bleichlingen (Count of Bleichlingen)
- blb_stefan_ii (Bishopric of Lebus)
- bms_withego_ii_colditz (Bishopric of Meissen)
- gln_albrecht_ii
- gln_albrecht_iii
- gln_ernst_i
- gln_ernst_ii
- gln_ernst_iii
- gln_ernst_iv
- gln_ernst_v
- gln_erwin_i
- gln_erwin_ii
- gln_heinrich_i
- gln_heinrich_iii
- gln_heinrich_iv
- gln_herrmann_iv
- gln_lambert_i
- gln_lambert_ii
- gry_agnes_de_gruyere
- gry_catherine_de_la_tour_chatillon
- gry_jean_de_montsalvens
- gry_pierre_i_de_gruyere
- gry_pierre_ii_de_gruyere
- gry_pierre_iii_de_gruyere
- gry_pierre_iv_de_gruyere
- gry_rodolphe_i_de_gruyere
- gry_ulrich_de_gruyere
- lic_johann_i_von_lichtenberg
- lic_johann_ii_von_lichtenberg
- lic_ludwig_i_von_lichtenberg
- lic_ludwig_ii_von_lichtenberg
- lic_ludwig_iv_von_lichtenberg
- lic_verena_von_freiburg
- mds_adelheid_von_fischbach
- mds_agnes_von_manderscheid
- mds_gertrud_von_virneburg
- mds_jutta_von_reuland
- mds_wilhelm_i_von_manderscheid
- mds_wilhelm_ii_von_manderscheid
- mds_wilhelm_iii_von_manderscheid
- mds_wilhelm_iv_von_manderscheid
- nid_engelbert_i
- nid_heilwig_von_isenburg
- nid_ludwig_ii
- nid_lukardis
- nsa_henry_ii_nassau
- nsa_otto_i_nassau
- nsd_johann_i_nassau
- nss_henry_i_nassau
- nss_otto_ii_nassau
- rbg_friedrich_i_von_rietberg
- rbg_heinrich_i_von_rietberg
- rbg_konrad_i_von_rietberg
- rdl_elisabeth_von_eisenbach
- rdl_hermann_i_riedesel
- rdl_hermann_ii_riedesel
- rdl_kraft_i_riedesel
- tgg_adelheid_von_griessenberg
- tgg_daughter1_von_toggenburg
- tgg_daughter2_von_toggenburg
- tgg_daughter3_von_toggenburg
- tgg_diethelm_i_von_toggenburg
- tgg_diethelm_ii_von_toggenburg
- tgg_diethelm_v_von_toggenburg
- vel_agnes_von_leiningen
- vel_agnes_von_veldenz
- vel_emicho_von_kyrburg
- vel_georg_i_von_veldenz
- vel_gerlach_i_von_veldenz
- vel_gerlach_ii_von_veldenz
- vel_gerlach_iii_von_veldenz
- vel_gerlach_iv_von_veldenz
- vel_gerlach_v_von_veldenz
- vel_heinrich_ii_von_veldenz
- vel_heinrich_von_geroldseck
- vel_walter_von_geroldseck
- wde_adelaide_von_kleve
- wde_adolph_i_von_waldeck
- wde_adolph_ii_von_waldeck
- wde_armgard_von_waldeck
- wde_dietrich_von_waldeck
- wde_elisabeth_von_waldeck
- wde_henry_iii_von_waldeck
- wde_henry_iv_von_waldeck
- wde_henry_v_von_waldeck
- wde_mechthild_von_waldeck
- wde_otto_i_von_waldeck
- wde_otto_ii_von_waldeck
- wgo_albrecht_v_von_wernigerode
- wgo_gebhard_i_von_wernigerode
- wgo_helene_von_braunschweig
- wgo_konrad_i_von_wernigerode
- wgo_konrad_ii_von_wernigerode
- wgo_konrad_iii_von_wernigerode
- wgo_konrad_iv_von_wernigerode
- Dynamic Names
- Added Czech, German (including Lower, Central and Upper), Polabian, Rhaetian (Friulian, Ladin and Romansh) and Sorbian Dynamic Names
Renamed the following:
TAGs
- Locations (only corrections. Additionally renamed all locations to standardized form):
- Aalen to Ellwangen
- Aschersleben to Ballenstedt
- Bad Hofgastein to Bischofshofen
- Beckum to Rietberg
- Bernkastel to Birkenfeld
- Biedenkopf to Friedberg
- Bílina to Husinec
- Böblingen to Tübingen
- Braunlage to Herzberg am Harz
- Bruck an der Mür to Kapfenberg
- Bulle to Gruyère
- Coesfeld to Horstmar
- Deggendorf to Kelheim
- Dermbach to Aschach
- Donauwörth to Oettingen
- Ebermannstadt to Schesslitz
- Erlangen to Sulzbach
- Fritzlar to Melsungen
- Fürth to Nagold
- Genthin to Jerichow
- Grafendorf to Waidhofen
- Greifenstein to Davos
- Gronau to Gandersheim
- Guardaval to Zuoz
- Ilmenau to Schleusingen
- Imst to Landneck
- Kadaň to Teplá
- Kaufbeuren to Krumbach
- Langenthal to Burgdorf
- Lambach to Ischl
- Lüdinghausen to Dulmen
- Mariazell to Scheibbs
- Montabaur to Wied
- Münsingen to Sigmaringen
- Olpe to Attendorn
- Pfarrkirchen to Griesbach
- Rees to Wesel
- Rüdesheim to Katzenelnbogen
- St. Wendel to Lichtenberg
- Schotten to Nidda
- Schwarzenberg to Sayda
- Sonneberg to Saalfeld
- Steinfurt to Rheine
- Tábor to Jindřichův Hradec
- Tuttlingen to Hohenberg
- Vall d'Ossola to Domodossola
- Vilsbiburg to Burghausen
- Vohenstrauß to Leuchtenberg
- Wangen to Waldburg
- Westerstede to Friesoythe
- Zug to Kyburg
Raw Goods
- Removed (18)
- Apolda
- Biel/Bienne
- Böbingen
- Brückenau
- Calw
- Donauwörth
- Eppstein
- Hof
- Kaufbeuren
- Kevernburg
- Lüdinghausen
- Minden
- Offenbach
- Parsberg
- Schlusselberg
- Steinfurt
- Wangen
- Zeven
Terrain and Vegetation
- Changed several Raw Goods as suggested
Locations
- Total Review
- Redrew several Locations
And now, to the maps!
Countries:
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The first map with no colored wastelands, the second with colored wastelands, and the third, we are showing the entire territory of the HRE, not only Germany.
HRE IO:
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This is the updated HRE IO map, with the different categories (Prince-Elector & Archbishop-Elector, Imperial Peasant Republic, Free Imperial City, Imperial Prelate, and Imperial Prince). As usual, take the map mode as WIP (you may notice that it has already changed since the original Tinto Maps post, making it easier to read).
And here you have the current total number of members:
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Not all the countries appear in this box, you have to scroll a bit in-game to be able to see the remaining ones.
Locations:
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Provinces:
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One of our German content designers has reworked the provinces. We've tried to get a balance between those that could directly translate to English, such as the different provinces of Styria, and those that couldn't be translated easily; so for a native German speaker, some will sound a bit weird, but we've tried to be consistent with how we manage it in general.
Areas:
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Terrain:
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A bunch of changes after your feedback, especially on the Vegetation.
Development:
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Harbors:
I've noticed while preparing the Feedback post that we haven't posted the Natural Harbors of Europe, so I'll prepare another separate for them!
Cultures:
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There are some adjustments to the cultures, but not big changes.
Languages:
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The first map is the dominant languages, the second is the dialects (which, I remind you, is primarily used for flavour, and close to the 'language' linguistical definition), and the third is the court language.
Religions:
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Not many changes in the religious map, only a few Waldensians were added to Austria.
Raw Materials:
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Lots of changes!
Markets:
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We haven't changed the market centers, you may notice some differences with the Tinto Maps post, which depend on the constant balancing we keep doing to this feature.
And that's all for today! Remember that on Friday we will be taking a look at a German country, Bavaria. Cheers!
Absolutely glorious!Countries:
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The first map with no colored wastelands, the second with colored wastelands, and the third, we are showing the entire territory of the HRE, not only Germany.
HRE IO:
View attachment 1255472
This is the updated HRE IO map, with the different categories (Prince-Elector & Archbishop-Elector, Imperial Peasant Republic, Free Imperial City, Imperial Prelate, and Imperial Prince). As usual, take the map mode as WIP (you may notice that it has already changed since the original Tinto Maps post, making it easier to read).
And here you have the current total number of members:
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Not all the countries appear in this box, you have to scroll a bit in-game to be able to see the remaining ones.
So, it appears to me that you do not have dynamic location names turned on, right? It appears that a lot of the locations do not have their names in the common language of their respective countries, or even as the language of majority in their location.
Do the extremely tiny areas like Holstein and Salzburg have any gameplay implications?
In my opinion, the newer colour scheme is even harder on the colourblind eyes than the previous one. Plateau is now barely different from Flatland.. On a different note: did you remove terrain types such as "wasteland mountains", or you just changed the display so that wastelands do not display their terrain type?
I do find it unfortunate that Dalmatian is still part of the Italian language, though I know it is technically not part of this feedback turn, but still I wish you depicted it accurately as a separate branch of the Romance family.
I'm going to point out again that Croatia should also have Latin as court language (something mentioned and immediately lost in the sauce in the dreaded Balkans Feedback thread).View attachment 1255437
The first map is the dominant languages, the second is the dialects (which, I remind you, is primarily used for flavour, and close to the 'language' linguistical definition), and the third is the court language.
Love to see how you changed the colour of Gems to a beautiful and vibrant teal! It does stick out better now. I do see beeswax is present now too, although I can't see any in the HRE but in Italy, Hungary and Poland; maybe give it a honey-gold colour, like orangish?
So dynamic location names ARE turned off here, right? Given that Cologne, Prague, Venice etc. are displayed in English, which you confirmed that would change for Market centers too.Markets:
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We haven't changed the market centers, you may notice some differences with the Tinto Maps post, which depend on the constant balancing we keep doing to this feature.
And that's all for today! Remember that on Friday we will be taking a look at a German country, Bavaria. Cheers!
Germany got a lot denser, and parts of Italy could certainly benefit from that too, given how little it got in the review. France is in a pretty good shape tho, the only issues are some locations names rather than addition of locationsWhy? They already got their reviews.