The Slavic migration dates to 2 century after the Alans were pushed west or south by the Huns and more centuries away from any special interaction that would be exclusive to Southern East Slavs and this supposed remnant Iranian population which there is no evidence for.
Why is it an obvious nonsense when slavs came across iranian Burtasy in
The northern extent of Iranian tribes was up to Severia and Polesia and nicely overlaps with (proto-)slavic area.
A quick search already tells me we don't know what they were and that Uralic and Turkic affiliation is more likely, what a great argument!
The difference between Iranian presence before the 5th century and Iranian presence after the break up of Slavic is important, because it doesn't matter if the Slavic homeland was near Iranians. If the G>H shift was caused by Iranian contact before the Slavic migrations it would mean that ALL Slavs must have experienced that shift which is obviously not the case because you would need to argue that somehow the sound change was then reverted in some Slavic dialects which I don't think anyone actually thinks.
You don't need to explain sound changes, they just happen by themselves. If you wanted to explain sound changes in East Slavic I'd rather look at language that had far more impact on it and did so at a time where the sound changes would be exclusive to the dialect in question and not all of Slavic.
why are there sunni majority in the middle of Lithuania? is it a bug?Hello, and welcome to another Tinto Maps feedback review! This week, we will be taking a look at Russia, a very anticipated review (which Johan already advanced in some maps last week).
A note before we start on the area that we've covered in this update. We've focused it on the core Russian lands, plus the Kola Peninsula. This means we've not yet updated the lands of Vyatka and Perm, nor those ruled by the Golden Horde. These will be covered in the future Tinto Maps feedback post, probably the one for the Steppes and Western Siberia. With that said, let's take a look at the list of changes, and then start with maps!
ADDITIONS
Added the following:
CORRECTIONS
- Locations (153+ 55 Lakes + 6 Wastelands)
- Andomsky Pogost
- Ashevo
- Azeevo
- Badozhsky
- Beloe
- Berezhnyany
- Bernovo
- Bezhanitsy
- Bibirevo
- Bogorodskoye
- Bogorodskoye (Pereyaslavl)
- Bolshevo
- Bor Volgo
- Borisogleb
- Brody (Tver)
- Burga
- Chelmuzhi
- Chuzboy
- Demyanovo
- Drokov
- Dubok
- Dubrovna
- Fomin Gorodok
- Georgevskoye
- Glukhovichi to Perevitska
- Gorodechnya
- Goroditse
- Gruzino
- Ilovna
- Ivangorod
- Izboishchi
- Izdeshkovo
- Izori
- Karniki
- Katyn
- Khakhaly
- Khatun
- Khlepen
- Kholm
- Khotiml
- Khotmyzh
- Khotsy
- Kinerma
- Klepiki
- Knyazhichi
- Knyazhoye
- Koi
- Koloshma
- Koponovo
- Korenevo
- Kosozhichi
- Kozlov
- Ktsyn
- Kubenskoye
- Kulotino
- Kurba
- Kuretsk
- Kurmysh
- Kuzhbal
- Lezhnevo
- Luda
- Lyady
- Lyakhovichy
- Lyuban
- Lyubichi
- Lyubun
- Lyubno
- Maryovo
- Megra
- Megrino
- Meletovo
- Meshchersk
- Mezhutka
- Mikhailovka
- Mikshino
- Mikulino (Tver)
- Moshok
- Mushkov Pogost
- Nadvoitsy
- Nikolo Dor
- Nikol'skoye
- Nizhel'skoye
- Nuorttijärvi
- Obolensk
- Odintsovo
- Opalkova
- Orekhovna
- Ostrechiny
- Pashozero
- Petrovsk
- Podberezye
- Pogoreloye
- Pogostishche
- Poreevo
- Pribuzh
- (Krasnye) Prudy
- (Serebryanye) Prudy
- Pryazha
- Przemysl
- Pustosel
- Putyvl
- Radogosch
- Rakitnya
- Raznezhye
- Revny
- Rogachevo
- Ropsk
- Rozhalovo
- Rzhavets
- Rzheva Pustaya
- Sevsk
- Shal'skii
- Shatur
- Shchuchye
- Shenga-Kurya
- Shoptovo
- Shui
- Sol Velikaya
- Spasskoye
- Spasskoye (Lyskovo)
- Starodub-Votsky
- Sudai
- Suikujärvi
- Sumino
- Svinort
- Svir
- Talitsa
- Tervenichi
- Tesov
- Trufany
- Ust Kuloy
- Valday
- Veliky Porog
- Verba
- Vereya
- Vertyazin
- Verzhavsk
- Vetlitsy
- Vichuga
- Visokoye
- Vlasovo
- Vodlozero
- Vognema
- Volkona
- Volodimerets
- Voronizh
- Vorotynsk
- Vorotynsk (Novosil)
- Vshchizh
- Yeszk
- Yorga
- Zhulino
- Zolotkovo
- Lakes
- Lake Bol'shoye Rovkul'skoye
- Lake Chudzjavr
- Lake Dvin'ye
- Lake Engozero
- Lake Galichkoye
- Lake Gimoly
- Lake Golodnaya Guba
- Lake Goltsovoye
- Lake Imandra
- Lake Kamennoye
- Lake Kenozero
- Lake Kenozero (Near Ladoga)
- Lake Kolozero
- Lake Kolvitskoye
- Lake Konchozero
- Lake Kozhozero
- Lake Kovdozero
- Lake Kovzhskoye
- Lake Kukkureozero
- Lake Lednikovoye
- Lake Leksozero
- Lake Lindozero
- Lake Lizhmozero
- Lake Lokht'yarvi
- Lake Lovozero
- Lake Lyoksmozhero
- Lake Maslozero
- Lake Nero
- Lake Notozero
- Lake Nyuk
- Lake Otradnoye
- Lake Pal'vozero
- Lake Peschanka-To
- Lake Pleshcheyevo
- Lake Pyaozero
- Lake Seletsy
- Lake Seliger
- Lake Sergozero
- Lake Shotozero
- Lake Sredneye Kuyto
- Lake Sumozero
- Lake Suoyarvi
- Lake Syamozero
- Lake Tishkeozero
- Lake Topozero
- Lake Tulos
- Lake Tungudskoye
- Lake Umbozero
- Lake Verkhneye Kuyto
- Lake Volgo
- Lake Vyalozero
- Lake Vygozero
- Lake Yelmozero
- Lake Yenozero
- Lake Zhizhitskoye
- Wastelands
- Divided many Wastelands in more pieces.
- TAGs (15)
- Fomin-Berezuesk
- Galich-Mersky
- Gorodets
- Klin
- Kozelsk
- Novgorod-Seversky
- Pronsk
- Rylsk
- Starodub
- Suzdal
- Tarusa
- Uglich
- Vladimir
- Yuriev-Polsky
- Zubtsov
- Characters
- fmb_fyodor_konstantinovich_krasny
- glm_davyd_konstantinovich_rurik
- glm_fyodor_davydovich_rurik
- glm_ivan_fyodorovich_rurik
- kch_mstislav_mikhailovich_rurik
- kch_svyatoslav_mstislavich_rurik
- kch_panteleimon_mstislavich_rurik
- kch_vasily_panteleimonovich_rurik
- kch_andrei_mstislavich_rurik
- kzk_titus_mstislavich_rurik
- mos_sophia_yuriovna_rurik
- prk_alexander_mikhailovich_rurik
- prk_mikhail_yaroslavich_rurik
- prk_yaroslav_alexandrovich_rurik
- rya_konstantin_romanovich_rurik
- rya_yaroslav_romanovich_rurik
- tve_konstantin_mikhailovich_rurik
- trs_yuri_mikhailovich_rurik
- trs_konstantin_yurievich_rurik
- yrv_yaroslav_ivanovich_rurik
- Dynamic Names
- Added tons of Dynamic Names
Renamed the following:
Cultures
- Locations (only corrections. Additionally renamed all locations to standardized form):
- Aksentevo to Berezovets
- Alexandrov to Alexandrovskaya Sloboda
- Ardatovo to Sergach
- Beloye to Lipno (Lipnaya Gorka)
- Belinsky to Chembar
- Bezhetsk to Gorodetsk
- Bolshoy Dvor to Ozerevo
- Bolshoye Ignatovo to Altyshevo
- Cheltsa to Kobyl'e
- Cherepovets to Cherepoves
- Dalen Olina to Dalniye Zelenstsy
- Demyansk to Demon
- Dyatkovo to Foshnya
- Grad Mersky to Galich
- Hotoshino to Khotoshino
- Kaduy to Nikol'skoye
- Karhumagi to Karhumägi
- Kashkaransj to Kashkarantsy
- Kexholm to Korela
- Kharkiv to Donetsk
- Khoza to Zaostrovskoye
- Kildon to Kiltinä
- Koivisto to Beryozovskoye
- Kolgaczich to Unezhma
- Koporje to Kopor'ye
- Korop to Melnya
- Kovoda to Kovda
- Kovrov to Rozhdestveno
- Kurovskoye to Rogozh
- Lahdenpohja to Kurkijoki
- Laptevo to Lopasnya
- Lekanstroj to Akkala
- Liissila to Lisino
- Likhoslavl to Mednoye
- Limenda to Pyras
- Lindoserskij to Lindjärvi
- Lokot to Boldyzh
- Loymola to Loimola
- Luskoje to Staropolye
- Lyudinovo to Fominichi
- Mafelskoj to Maaselkä
- Makaryev to Unzha
- Malaya Shuika to Maloshuyka
- Maly Arkhangelsky to Tagin
- Markkova to Markobo
- Maselskiij to Maselga
- Mena to Snovsk
- Michurinsk to Kozlov
- Mökhö to Möhkö
- Molouskoj to Mootka
- Morshansk to Morsha
- Nev to Nebolchi
- Noginsk to Vokhna
- Nöteborg to Oreshek
- Nyen to Neva
- Okulovka to Lyubytino
- Onegaborg to Shuya
- Onega Peninsula to Nyonoksa
- Opoka to Zaplyusye
- Oryol to Zvenigorod
- Paaanajärvi to Paanajärvi
- Padanskij to Puatane
- Panoimskoj to Panoi
- Parfino to Nalyuchi
- Peszenskoj to Luujärvi
- Petrovskoye to Izberdey
- Petzinka to Pechenga
- Pialiska to Pyalitsa
- Pienika to Pieninka
- Plaskoye to Gogol
- Pochinok to Belik
- Podporozhye to Vinnitsy
- Podyuga to Charonda
- Porchov to Porkhov
- Poretskoye to Atrat
- Prokhorovka to Muzhech
- Riistina to Ristiina
- Rugosenskoj to Rukajärvi
- Sarai to Kazari
- Seletskij to Sellinkylä
- Sem Ostronoj to Semiostrov
- Semtsejerskij to Semčojärvi
- Serdobsk to Serdobinskaya
- Seredyna-Buda to Znobov
- Sergiyev Posad to Yanovo
- Shakhanovka to Krasavino
- Shenkursk to Vaga
- Shugozero to Spirkovo
- Sigovets to Vazhiny
- Sokol to Arkhangelskoye
- Soligalich to Sol' Galichskaya
- Soma to Saarijoki
- Sonoshinskoi to Sumsky Posad
- Spasskij to Vygozero
- Stanovoye to Ploskoye
- Starababa to Olenitsa
- Stupino to Koshira
- Suenokele to Suonikylä
- Svetenoes to Svyatoy Nos
- Taldom to Dubna
- Trelina to Tetrino
- Tsareva to Vekshenga
- Tunga to Tunkuo
- Tutayev to Romanov
- Tyrö to Martyshkino
- Uhtua to Uhtuo
- Ust-Shonosha to Tavrenga
- Ustyuzhna-Zheleznopolskaya to Ustyuzhna
- Vartsila to Värtsilä
- Vashky to Vashki
- Vaskina Polyana to Staraya Ryazan
- Vesyegonsk to Ves Yogonskaya
- Voigoma to Kriitina
- Volnushki to Luchani
- Volokolamsk to Volok
- Volovo to Terbuny
- Vyazniki to Yaropolch
- Warshiga to Varzuga
- Yagnitsa to Lukoves
- Yegoryevsk to Vysokoye
- Yershichi to Zaroy
- Zadonsk to Teshevka
- Zaozyorye to Ustye
- Zaraysk to Rostislavl-Ryazansky
- Zhizdra to Usty
- Zhizhitsa to Zhizhets
Raw Goods
- Reworked the spread of cultures in the region.
Terrain and Vegetation
- Changed several Raw Goods as suggested.
Locations
- Total Review.
- Redrew several Locations.
Countries
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In the first screenshot you can see the wider picture of the region, while in the second, we have the Russian Principalities more in detail. The main change here, besides the additions, is that most of them are now under the Tatar Yoke. Speaking of that, two more screenshots, the first with the IO itself, the second with the lands ruled by Ivan I 'Kalita', Prince of Muscovy:
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The second screenshot is taken playing as Novgorod, which has an elective system to pick its ruler, the current one being Ivan I 'Kalita'; you may see that Pskov and Orshek are subjects of Novgorod, while the other Principalities share with Novgorod a Personal Union under the aforementioned Prince of Muscovy.
Dynasties
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The map of Russia is much clear when you just take into account the ruling dynasties...
Societies of Pops
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A map mode that we hadn't revealed yet when we first presented Russia, as a few more below.
Locations
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Provinces
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Areas
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Terrain
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Russia is in general terms a cold, flat, and forested region. The climate has already been changed to the new standard (1901 distribution). Please let us know any further terrain suggestions for us!
Development
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Another new map, the development one. There's a big difference between the core lands, and the outer ones.
Harbors
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A few interesting harbors here.
Cultures
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Some tweaks here, as we now have Bjarmian, Polatskian, and Smolenskian spreading over the Russian map. It's WIP, so suggestions are welcome.
Languages
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This is our current proposal for Russia, following the feedback received, although take it as non-final. First, there are two Languages, Russian and Ruthenian, both belonging to the Slavic language family. Each of them is divided into two different 'Dialects' (remember, this is a gameplay term, as they're closer to real-life languages), Novgorodian and Russian for Russian, and Belarusian and Ukrainian for Ruthenian. The later terms are a bit modern for 1337, but we wanted to show here clearly what linguistical spheres we wanted to portray; we will gladly receive suggestions to potentially change these names for more flavorish ones if you think so. Finally, the third map is the Court Language, as you may notice because of having Latin over the Livonian and Prussian lands.
Religions
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Not many changes in the religious map mode. The main one is the portrayal of 'Finnish ancient religion' ('Suomalainen muinaisusko'), which we've called in-game 'Muinaisusko'; please let us know if you like this name, as well.
Raw Materials
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I suggest you to make an exercise, and find the differences with the original Tinto Maps...
Markets
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Not many differences, but I thought that a bigger picture wouldn't hurt, as taking a look at another endonym possible with our new flavor system, 'Moskva'.
And that's all for today! We'll be reading your feedback to our feedback review (feedback loop!), and replying to your questions, as usual. The next Tinto Maps will be this Friday, the 13th, about Central America. Aaand, we will be able to have one more Tinto Maps Feedback post before the Christmas break, the one devoted to Levant and Egypt, next Monday, the 16th! Cheers!
According to the linked page, the first ones settled even before then, but should be Tengrist rather than Sunni
I did not make a deep research, just briefly noticed that Wiki wrote about the first settlers at the beginning of the XIV century.
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Hello, and welcome to another Tinto Maps feedback review! This week, we will be taking a look at Russia, a very anticipated review (which Johan already advanced in some maps last week).
A note before we start on the area that we've covered in this update. We've focused it on the core Russian lands, plus the Kola Peninsula. This means we've not yet updated the lands of Vyatka and Perm, nor those ruled by the Golden Horde. These will be covered in the future Tinto Maps feedback post, probably the one for the Steppes and Western Siberia. With that said, let's take a look at the list of changes, and then start with maps!
ADDITIONS
Added the following:
CORRECTIONS
- Locations (153+ 55 Lakes + 6 Wastelands)
- Andomsky Pogost
- Ashevo
- Azeevo
- Badozhsky
- Beloe
- Berezhnyany
- Bernovo
- Bezhanitsy
- Bibirevo
- Bogorodskoye
- Bogorodskoye (Pereyaslavl)
- Bolshevo
- Bor Volgo
- Borisogleb
- Brody (Tver)
- Burga
- Chelmuzhi
- Chuzboy
- Demyanovo
- Drokov
- Dubok
- Dubrovna
- Fomin Gorodok
- Georgevskoye
- Glukhovichi to Perevitska
- Gorodechnya
- Goroditse
- Gruzino
- Ilovna
- Ivangorod
- Izboishchi
- Izdeshkovo
- Izori
- Karniki
- Katyn
- Khakhaly
- Khatun
- Khlepen
- Kholm
- Khotiml
- Khotmyzh
- Khotsy
- Kinerma
- Klepiki
- Knyazhichi
- Knyazhoye
- Koi
- Koloshma
- Koponovo
- Korenevo
- Kosozhichi
- Kozlov
- Ktsyn
- Kubenskoye
- Kulotino
- Kurba
- Kuretsk
- Kurmysh
- Kuzhbal
- Lezhnevo
- Luda
- Lyady
- Lyakhovichy
- Lyuban
- Lyubichi
- Lyubun
- Lyubno
- Maryovo
- Megra
- Megrino
- Meletovo
- Meshchersk
- Mezhutka
- Mikhailovka
- Mikshino
- Mikulino (Tver)
- Moshok
- Mushkov Pogost
- Nadvoitsy
- Nikolo Dor
- Nikol'skoye
- Nizhel'skoye
- Nuorttijärvi
- Obolensk
- Odintsovo
- Opalkova
- Orekhovna
- Ostrechiny
- Pashozero
- Petrovsk
- Podberezye
- Pogoreloye
- Pogostishche
- Poreevo
- Pribuzh
- (Krasnye) Prudy
- (Serebryanye) Prudy
- Pryazha
- Przemysl
- Pustosel
- Putyvl
- Radogosch
- Rakitnya
- Raznezhye
- Revny
- Rogachevo
- Ropsk
- Rozhalovo
- Rzhavets
- Rzheva Pustaya
- Sevsk
- Shal'skii
- Shatur
- Shchuchye
- Shenga-Kurya
- Shoptovo
- Shui
- Sol Velikaya
- Spasskoye
- Spasskoye (Lyskovo)
- Starodub-Votsky
- Sudai
- Suikujärvi
- Sumino
- Svinort
- Svir
- Talitsa
- Tervenichi
- Tesov
- Trufany
- Ust Kuloy
- Valday
- Veliky Porog
- Verba
- Vereya
- Vertyazin
- Verzhavsk
- Vetlitsy
- Vichuga
- Visokoye
- Vlasovo
- Vodlozero
- Vognema
- Volkona
- Volodimerets
- Voronizh
- Vorotynsk
- Vorotynsk (Novosil)
- Vshchizh
- Yeszk
- Yorga
- Zhulino
- Zolotkovo
- Lakes
- Lake Bol'shoye Rovkul'skoye
- Lake Chudzjavr
- Lake Dvin'ye
- Lake Engozero
- Lake Galichkoye
- Lake Gimoly
- Lake Golodnaya Guba
- Lake Goltsovoye
- Lake Imandra
- Lake Kamennoye
- Lake Kenozero
- Lake Kenozero (Near Ladoga)
- Lake Kolozero
- Lake Kolvitskoye
- Lake Konchozero
- Lake Kozhozero
- Lake Kovdozero
- Lake Kovzhskoye
- Lake Kukkureozero
- Lake Lednikovoye
- Lake Leksozero
- Lake Lindozero
- Lake Lizhmozero
- Lake Lokht'yarvi
- Lake Lovozero
- Lake Lyoksmozhero
- Lake Maslozero
- Lake Nero
- Lake Notozero
- Lake Nyuk
- Lake Otradnoye
- Lake Pal'vozero
- Lake Peschanka-To
- Lake Pleshcheyevo
- Lake Pyaozero
- Lake Seletsy
- Lake Seliger
- Lake Sergozero
- Lake Shotozero
- Lake Sredneye Kuyto
- Lake Sumozero
- Lake Suoyarvi
- Lake Syamozero
- Lake Tishkeozero
- Lake Topozero
- Lake Tulos
- Lake Tungudskoye
- Lake Umbozero
- Lake Verkhneye Kuyto
- Lake Volgo
- Lake Vyalozero
- Lake Vygozero
- Lake Yelmozero
- Lake Yenozero
- Lake Zhizhitskoye
- Wastelands
- Divided many Wastelands in more pieces.
- TAGs (15)
- Fomin-Berezuesk
- Galich-Mersky
- Gorodets
- Klin
- Kozelsk
- Novgorod-Seversky
- Pronsk
- Rylsk
- Starodub
- Suzdal
- Tarusa
- Uglich
- Vladimir
- Yuriev-Polsky
- Zubtsov
- Characters
- fmb_fyodor_konstantinovich_krasny
- glm_davyd_konstantinovich_rurik
- glm_fyodor_davydovich_rurik
- glm_ivan_fyodorovich_rurik
- kch_mstislav_mikhailovich_rurik
- kch_svyatoslav_mstislavich_rurik
- kch_panteleimon_mstislavich_rurik
- kch_vasily_panteleimonovich_rurik
- kch_andrei_mstislavich_rurik
- kzk_titus_mstislavich_rurik
- mos_sophia_yuriovna_rurik
- prk_alexander_mikhailovich_rurik
- prk_mikhail_yaroslavich_rurik
- prk_yaroslav_alexandrovich_rurik
- rya_konstantin_romanovich_rurik
- rya_yaroslav_romanovich_rurik
- tve_konstantin_mikhailovich_rurik
- trs_yuri_mikhailovich_rurik
- trs_konstantin_yurievich_rurik
- yrv_yaroslav_ivanovich_rurik
- Dynamic Names
- Added tons of Dynamic Names
Renamed the following:
Cultures
- Locations (only corrections. Additionally renamed all locations to standardized form):
- Aksentevo to Berezovets
- Alexandrov to Alexandrovskaya Sloboda
- Ardatovo to Sergach
- Beloye to Lipno (Lipnaya Gorka)
- Belinsky to Chembar
- Bezhetsk to Gorodetsk
- Bolshoy Dvor to Ozerevo
- Bolshoye Ignatovo to Altyshevo
- Cheltsa to Kobyl'e
- Cherepovets to Cherepoves
- Dalen Olina to Dalniye Zelenstsy
- Demyansk to Demon
- Dyatkovo to Foshnya
- Grad Mersky to Galich
- Hotoshino to Khotoshino
- Kaduy to Nikol'skoye
- Karhumagi to Karhumägi
- Kashkaransj to Kashkarantsy
- Kexholm to Korela
- Kharkiv to Donetsk
- Khoza to Zaostrovskoye
- Kildon to Kiltinä
- Koivisto to Beryozovskoye
- Kolgaczich to Unezhma
- Koporje to Kopor'ye
- Korop to Melnya
- Kovoda to Kovda
- Kovrov to Rozhdestveno
- Kurovskoye to Rogozh
- Lahdenpohja to Kurkijoki
- Laptevo to Lopasnya
- Lekanstroj to Akkala
- Liissila to Lisino
- Likhoslavl to Mednoye
- Limenda to Pyras
- Lindoserskij to Lindjärvi
- Lokot to Boldyzh
- Loymola to Loimola
- Luskoje to Staropolye
- Lyudinovo to Fominichi
- Mafelskoj to Maaselkä
- Makaryev to Unzha
- Malaya Shuika to Maloshuyka
- Maly Arkhangelsky to Tagin
- Markkova to Markobo
- Maselskiij to Maselga
- Mena to Snovsk
- Michurinsk to Kozlov
- Mökhö to Möhkö
- Molouskoj to Mootka
- Morshansk to Morsha
- Nev to Nebolchi
- Noginsk to Vokhna
- Nöteborg to Oreshek
- Nyen to Neva
- Okulovka to Lyubytino
- Onegaborg to Shuya
- Onega Peninsula to Nyonoksa
- Opoka to Zaplyusye
- Oryol to Zvenigorod
- Paaanajärvi to Paanajärvi
- Padanskij to Puatane
- Panoimskoj to Panoi
- Parfino to Nalyuchi
- Peszenskoj to Luujärvi
- Petrovskoye to Izberdey
- Petzinka to Pechenga
- Pialiska to Pyalitsa
- Pienika to Pieninka
- Plaskoye to Gogol
- Pochinok to Belik
- Podporozhye to Vinnitsy
- Podyuga to Charonda
- Porchov to Porkhov
- Poretskoye to Atrat
- Prokhorovka to Muzhech
- Riistina to Ristiina
- Rugosenskoj to Rukajärvi
- Sarai to Kazari
- Seletskij to Sellinkylä
- Sem Ostronoj to Semiostrov
- Semtsejerskij to Semčojärvi
- Serdobsk to Serdobinskaya
- Seredyna-Buda to Znobov
- Sergiyev Posad to Yanovo
- Shakhanovka to Krasavino
- Shenkursk to Vaga
- Shugozero to Spirkovo
- Sigovets to Vazhiny
- Sokol to Arkhangelskoye
- Soligalich to Sol' Galichskaya
- Soma to Saarijoki
- Sonoshinskoi to Sumsky Posad
- Spasskij to Vygozero
- Stanovoye to Ploskoye
- Starababa to Olenitsa
- Stupino to Koshira
- Suenokele to Suonikylä
- Svetenoes to Svyatoy Nos
- Taldom to Dubna
- Trelina to Tetrino
- Tsareva to Vekshenga
- Tunga to Tunkuo
- Tutayev to Romanov
- Tyrö to Martyshkino
- Uhtua to Uhtuo
- Ust-Shonosha to Tavrenga
- Ustyuzhna-Zheleznopolskaya to Ustyuzhna
- Vartsila to Värtsilä
- Vashky to Vashki
- Vaskina Polyana to Staraya Ryazan
- Vesyegonsk to Ves Yogonskaya
- Voigoma to Kriitina
- Volnushki to Luchani
- Volokolamsk to Volok
- Volovo to Terbuny
- Vyazniki to Yaropolch
- Warshiga to Varzuga
- Yagnitsa to Lukoves
- Yegoryevsk to Vysokoye
- Yershichi to Zaroy
- Zadonsk to Teshevka
- Zaozyorye to Ustye
- Zaraysk to Rostislavl-Ryazansky
- Zhizdra to Usty
- Zhizhitsa to Zhizhets
Raw Goods
- Reworked the spread of cultures in the region.
Terrain and Vegetation
- Changed several Raw Goods as suggested.
Locations
- Total Review.
- Redrew several Locations.
Countries
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In the first screenshot you can see the wider picture of the region, while in the second, we have the Russian Principalities more in detail. The main change here, besides the additions, is that most of them are now under the Tatar Yoke. Speaking of that, two more screenshots, the first with the IO itself, the second with the lands ruled by Ivan I 'Kalita', Prince of Muscovy:
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The second screenshot is taken playing as Novgorod, which has an elective system to pick its ruler, the current one being Ivan I 'Kalita'; you may see that Pskov and Orshek are subjects of Novgorod, while the other Principalities share with Novgorod a Personal Union under the aforementioned Prince of Muscovy.
Dynasties
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The map of Russia is much clear when you just take into account the ruling dynasties...
Societies of Pops
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A map mode that we hadn't revealed yet when we first presented Russia, as a few more below.
Locations
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Provinces
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Areas
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Terrain
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Russia is in general terms a cold, flat, and forested region. The climate has already been changed to the new standard (1901 distribution). Please let us know any further terrain suggestions for us!
Development
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Another new map, the development one. There's a big difference between the core lands, and the outer ones.
Harbors
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A few interesting harbors here.
Cultures
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Some tweaks here, as we now have Bjarmian, Polatskian, and Smolenskian spreading over the Russian map. It's WIP, so suggestions are welcome.
Languages
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This is our current proposal for Russia, following the feedback received, although take it as non-final. First, there are two Languages, Russian and Ruthenian, both belonging to the Slavic language family. Each of them is divided into two different 'Dialects' (remember, this is a gameplay term, as they're closer to real-life languages), Novgorodian and Russian for Russian, and Belarusian and Ukrainian for Ruthenian. The later terms are a bit modern for 1337, but we wanted to show here clearly what linguistical spheres we wanted to portray; we will gladly receive suggestions to potentially change these names for more flavorish ones if you think so. Finally, the third map is the Court Language, as you may notice because of having Latin over the Livonian and Prussian lands.
Religions
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Not many changes in the religious map mode. The main one is the portrayal of 'Finnish ancient religion' ('Suomalainen muinaisusko'), which we've called in-game 'Muinaisusko'; please let us know if you like this name, as well.
Raw Materials
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I suggest you to make an exercise, and find the differences with the original Tinto Maps...
Markets
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Not many differences, but I thought that a bigger picture wouldn't hurt, as taking a look at another endonym possible with our new flavor system, 'Moskva'.
And that's all for today! We'll be reading your feedback to our feedback review (feedback loop!), and replying to your questions, as usual. The next Tinto Maps will be this Friday, the 13th, about Central America. Aaand, we will be able to have one more Tinto Maps Feedback post before the Christmas break, the one devoted to Levant and Egypt, next Monday, the 16th! Cheers!
Also Ustye a bad choice for province name. It is literally just mouth of the river.
Another problem is Shenkursk province. The actual location of Shenkursk is NW from Ileza (with a long hypenated native name) and belongs to Ustye province.
It's a mondegrin.
Yes! I have also came by it a few timesIt's a mondegrin.
There is a local river called "Ust'ya" (Устья). A separate provincial entity is a historically correct observation: it was called "Ustya volosts". Allegedly, the province didn't extend this far North (didn't reach the Dvina river).
But Shenkursk province: it looks like it was usually called Vaga province instead. Shenkursk is consistently mentioned as a smaller administrative division than Vaga. This way, the borders won't need re-drawing: Vaga location will be included in Vaga province. One caveat: there might be other Vaga places in the world already.
This webpage contains a book with a few relevant maps:
A meaning of Zavolochye changed to be similar to Podvinye in the 13th century
