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If he doesn't vote later, sure, but there's plenty of time left. I don't think a lack of an early throwaway is especially suspicious.
In fact, I'll back it up with a vote. Matthew was an easy case yesterday as a non-voter, and it kind of looks like you are using it today. Skittishness 15 hours from deadline and voting 6 hours after deadline is also odd behaviour.
Vote Yakman.
Vote Yakman.
I'll admit that I'm not very familiar with the intricacies of forum WW, seeing as I'm scarcely active at best. Hopefully this isn't a rookie move, but I think I'd like to VOTE CAPIBARA for starters. I'm honestly just wondering what his motivations for voting Panzer were. Was it just for the tie? I don't really get why they're important.
You are quite incorrect. R.Graymarch was the third vote on Claude, as the following will illustrate.
Claude Vote #1
Claude Vote #2
Claude Vote #3
Claude Vote #4
At post number 203, Witch Agatha switched off Claude onto MatthewFW, which makes it look like MarcoRossolini was the 3rd vote, who was actually the 4th.
[246] Avernite - voted De Chat = reasoning {last person to make a meaningless vote}
[247] EUROO7 - voted alynkio = reasoning {a hunch}
[249] Dedonus - voted R.Graymarch = reasoning {voting Claude Day 1 is lazy, especially when he eventually turns up and votes; player was 3rd to vote Claude}
[251] Wagonlitz - voted EUROO7 = reasoning {player made Panzer a major candidate with the tie and was the 3rd voter}
[253] Culann - voted Dedonus = reasoning {player mistakenly called R.Graymarch the 3rd voter on Claude, although he really was the 3rd voter}
[257] Yakman - voted MarcoRossolini = reasoning {none}
[259] the_hdk - voted Capibara = reasoning {apparently from player's voting on Day 1}
[261] Yakman - unvoted MarcoRossolini, voted MatthewFW = reasoning {MatthewFW missed the vote on Day 1???}
[263] Spockyt - voted Yakman = reasoning {player reusing CAWZ so early in the day, skittishness behavior 15 hours before deadline and voting 6 hours after looks suspicious to voter}
[265] MatthewFW - voted Capibara = reasoning {wants to know what player's motive for voting Panzer}
[247] EUROO7 - voted alynkio = reasoning {a hunch}
[249] Dedonus - voted R.Graymarch = reasoning {voting Claude Day 1 is lazy, especially when he eventually turns up and votes; player was 3rd to vote Claude}
[251] Wagonlitz - voted EUROO7 = reasoning {player made Panzer a major candidate with the tie and was the 3rd voter}
[253] Culann - voted Dedonus = reasoning {player mistakenly called R.Graymarch the 3rd voter on Claude, although he really was the 3rd voter}
[257] Yakman - voted MarcoRossolini = reasoning {none}
[259] the_hdk - voted Capibara = reasoning {apparently from player's voting on Day 1}
[261] Yakman - unvoted MarcoRossolini, voted MatthewFW = reasoning {MatthewFW missed the vote on Day 1???}
[263] Spockyt - voted Yakman = reasoning {player reusing CAWZ so early in the day, skittishness behavior 15 hours before deadline and voting 6 hours after looks suspicious to voter}
[265] MatthewFW - voted Capibara = reasoning {wants to know what player's motive for voting Panzer}
Since it seems something that requires clarification. Panzer was only one of multiple people responsible for seer scans. Think of the seers and priests as infinite scan guilds.
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Vote Audren
Placeholder - falling asleep at the moment. Unsure how around I'll be at deadline but should get some analysis in.
Placeholder - falling asleep at the moment. Unsure how around I'll be at deadline but should get some analysis in.
Votecount, 11 hours and 13 minutes to deadline:
Capibara - 2: the_HDK [259], MatthewFW190 [265]
De Chat - 1: Avernite [246]
Alynkio - 1: EUROO7 [247]
R.Graymarch - 1: Dedonus [250]
EUROO7 - 1: Wagonlitz [251]
MatthewFW190 - 1: Yakman [MarcoRossolini 257 -> 261]
Yakman - 1: Spockyt [263]
Audren - 1: deathbywombat [269]
Non-Voters - 17, including: Culann [Dedonus 253 -> UNVOTE 267]
Capibara - 2: the_HDK [259], MatthewFW190 [265]
De Chat - 1: Avernite [246]
Alynkio - 1: EUROO7 [247]
R.Graymarch - 1: Dedonus [250]
EUROO7 - 1: Wagonlitz [251]
MatthewFW190 - 1: Yakman [MarcoRossolini 257 -> 261]
Yakman - 1: Spockyt [263]
Audren - 1: deathbywombat [269]
Non-Voters - 17, including: Culann [Dedonus 253 -> UNVOTE 267]
I'm suspicious of why Panzer suddenly got run up at the end yesterday. He went from no votes to getting lynched, on the basis of him not having voted yet. It's day 1, sure, but as Alynkio noted Panzer's known to be more likely to be unengaged as a goodie than a baddie, something that was ultimately borne out this time. If this had been a more drawn out process over the day, I'd write it off as day 1 nonsense, but this all happened in the twenty five minutes until deadline. More importantly, aside from Deathbywombat's agreement that panzer's activity was more likely to indicate him as a villager and his subsequent vote switch to a throwaway on Arkasas.
With the list of candidates being fairly large yesterday, I think there's a decent chance someone saw a chance to protect a packmate in danger by pushing up Panzer. The logic to switch to him was weak, Matthew had also not yet voted and was starting to go up as a result, but then Deathbywombat asked why single out him and then Panzer was the CAWZ candidate (ignoring the fact that CAWZ on day 1 is stupid). Aside from the Panzer voters, I'm a little suspicious of Deathbywombat being active near deadline and setting these events in motion, agreeing with Alynkio that inactive Panzer would be more likely to be villager Panzer, then trying to make Arkasas a candidate from next to nothing, with about 12 minutes to deadline. He said he'd break the tie if it stood at deadline, but Latinkaiser broke it instead. I don't know how close to deadline Latin's snipe was, so maybe he did it with enough time that Deathbywombat saw and so didn't snipe. Also Arkasas did turn out to be a baddie, so Beathbywombat's somewhat unlikely to be from his pack.
Of the Panzer voters, Latin's probably the least suspicious in my book, unless Marco ends up flipping pack aligned baddie. Breaking a tie day 1 is generally better for the village, and a baddie sniping to lynch someone who is probably a villager is risky day 1. Especially someone who was not posting up to deadline and could plausibly claim to have been offline and let the tie stand.
Euro as always is difficult to determine when he's being obtuse as a villager and when he's being obtuse as a wolf. But of the others, Capibara stands out the most initially, since he's the one who pushed Panzer into a tie for the lead with Marco. That close to deadline I'm not sure making a tie between two pretty weak candidates helps the village, inevitably someone will vote to break it and probably lynch a villager. I'll also note that Capibara could have instead put Claude into a tie with Marco instead, but chose Panzer. He gave no reasoning as to why he choose Panzer.
However it's Spockyt that I think is the actual most suspicious from yesterday. His vote on Panzer was the second, a crucial bit of momentum to allow the possibility of Panzer becoming the CAWZ candidate rather than Matthew. Also while third voters are often cited as the most notable and associated with baddies, this is known. Putting up a third, or in yesterday's situation a fourth, vote on a candidate would have put Spockyt under suspicion if the person he voted was lynched. And more importantly he was absent from that post until deadline, then popped up two minutes after the day 1 results to belatedly say Arkasas was a good candidate. This smacks to me of a baddie wanting to avoid deadline attention, but still wants to get cheap villager points with idle comments after it's over. More likely to be wolfish than villagerish in my book.
Vote Spockyt
With the list of candidates being fairly large yesterday, I think there's a decent chance someone saw a chance to protect a packmate in danger by pushing up Panzer. The logic to switch to him was weak, Matthew had also not yet voted and was starting to go up as a result, but then Deathbywombat asked why single out him and then Panzer was the CAWZ candidate (ignoring the fact that CAWZ on day 1 is stupid). Aside from the Panzer voters, I'm a little suspicious of Deathbywombat being active near deadline and setting these events in motion, agreeing with Alynkio that inactive Panzer would be more likely to be villager Panzer, then trying to make Arkasas a candidate from next to nothing, with about 12 minutes to deadline. He said he'd break the tie if it stood at deadline, but Latinkaiser broke it instead. I don't know how close to deadline Latin's snipe was, so maybe he did it with enough time that Deathbywombat saw and so didn't snipe. Also Arkasas did turn out to be a baddie, so Beathbywombat's somewhat unlikely to be from his pack.
Of the Panzer voters, Latin's probably the least suspicious in my book, unless Marco ends up flipping pack aligned baddie. Breaking a tie day 1 is generally better for the village, and a baddie sniping to lynch someone who is probably a villager is risky day 1. Especially someone who was not posting up to deadline and could plausibly claim to have been offline and let the tie stand.
Euro as always is difficult to determine when he's being obtuse as a villager and when he's being obtuse as a wolf. But of the others, Capibara stands out the most initially, since he's the one who pushed Panzer into a tie for the lead with Marco. That close to deadline I'm not sure making a tie between two pretty weak candidates helps the village, inevitably someone will vote to break it and probably lynch a villager. I'll also note that Capibara could have instead put Claude into a tie with Marco instead, but chose Panzer. He gave no reasoning as to why he choose Panzer.
However it's Spockyt that I think is the actual most suspicious from yesterday. His vote on Panzer was the second, a crucial bit of momentum to allow the possibility of Panzer becoming the CAWZ candidate rather than Matthew. Also while third voters are often cited as the most notable and associated with baddies, this is known. Putting up a third, or in yesterday's situation a fourth, vote on a candidate would have put Spockyt under suspicion if the person he voted was lynched. And more importantly he was absent from that post until deadline, then popped up two minutes after the day 1 results to belatedly say Arkasas was a good candidate. This smacks to me of a baddie wanting to avoid deadline attention, but still wants to get cheap villager points with idle comments after it's over. More likely to be wolfish than villagerish in my book.
Vote Spockyt
Of the cases presented aside I think Yakman's skittishness is the most off.
Vote Yakman
Vote Yakman
Often when the village is presented with a decent case where multiple players fits the reasoning and the one bringing up the case picks one of candidates. Then the village ends up lynching one of the others. So the part where Panzer got lynched after Mathew was first singled out as the CAWZ candidate seems to me to be Village plan 1A.
I got the part about guilds from the setup but why would they be infinite?
*checks the rules more carefully*
Right, the councils get replacements if members die. That seems a bit harsh on the bad guys so I wonder what counterbalance the GM put in for that. Do I really have to read the rest of the rules as well?
No real time for analysis today, but Claude was one of those saved by the switch yesterday, nay?
Vote Claude
Vote Claude
I agree that I was partially responsible for Panzer being killed, however I don't think my logic yesterday, which was that the two cases against Matthew and Panzer were entirely equal, yet Matthew was getting votes while Panzer was getting a pass, was inherently flawed. I wasn't absent from then to deadline, I just didn't have anything extra to say, I was content with how things were playing out. I never put much stock into "this person is more likely to be inactive as a goodie". About Arkasas, it was a silly thing to post, essentially the celebratory version of "we lost the seer", but personally, I'm not a believer in killing someone for a joke, and frankly, I believe that comment (which is a fairly obviously unwise thing to say) sort of counteracts the idea of me not wanting attention at deadline. Besides, I may have been away a long time, but you remember how I play, I'm sure. I'm always suspicious.
Ah the game of werewolf, where the village lynches the village and the wolves hunt the wolves in a race to see which side can self-destruct more slowly.
2 dead baddies from 2 packs at the start of day 2. Not a bad start, though the baddies did die before they could yield much voting info. Probably a bit small to be a 3 pack game, my guess is 2 packs of 4, a sorc, and a free cultist.
1. Capibara -- Most of the mention of Capibara has been with regard to his TIE happiness. He did create the ultimate Marco - Panzer and dared someone to break it. Creation of ties is far from a bad thing -- though the move greatly benefited Claude (and perhaps Matthew, DBW, and Yvanoff as well), while condemning Panzer the known villager. So far... neutral -- many goodies accidently vote other goodies day 1. If we kill Capibara today, it should be for this....
Which is looks pretty terrible in retrospect. In fairness, at the time it was a legit question for a villager to ask too -- why were Marco (who really looks just as likely to be a panicky baddie as a nervous goodie to me), Avernite, and Claude bad candidates? (Claude dies early all the time [ugh! look at me! Irredeemable meta-gamer!] Avernite can be useful to have around [oof! There I go again!]) Why was Arky better, and why should we let Euro direct our lynches? We all end up with egg on our face as villagers occasionally... ...but still, he actively spoke up in favor of a known baddie in the thread. If analysis means anything, he is a perfectly legitimate candidate. I'm leaning toward innocent here myself, but wouldn't fault anyone for coming down the other way, and killing him for info is certainly justifiable.
3. aedan777 -- Cast a vote on someone he wouldn't mind seeing die and vanished for the day. Find myself nodding in agreement while I read his post today... ...and questioning his motivations at the same time. Behavioral read on Spock is insightful, but would hedge that Spock is a naturally sketchy player so my bar for wanting him dead is slightly higher and it's his first game back in a while [oh gods! All I do is meta-game! Maybe I deserve death for this alone -- remember that I've already claimed OEO villager before you consider acting on this, however]
4. Dedonus -- Cast an arbitrary early vote on Avernite and vanished for the day. Avernite was a legitimate contender for most of the day, so can't call it a throw-away.
5. MatthewFW190 -- Zombie. Still hasn't voted. Failed to gain traction yesterday as a CAWZ candidate primarily due to the preferences of Avernite, Spock, and Euro.
6. Culann -- Really don't understand his initial Audren vote (reacting to a Wagon? Against whom?) Switched (justifiably!) to Marco for Marco's odd DeChat vote, then vanished. Posted a brief summation today. If only @Cliges were here to help us interpret his behavior!
7. LatinKaiser -- All eyes are on our TIE-breaker. I'm generally against lynching people for breaking day 1 ties (I would've broken the TIE the other way, but this is easier to say in hindsight). Woe is him should Marco filp baddie at some point. I've seen baddies risk such moves before, but it's probably the exception rather than the rule.
8. the_hdk -- An inscrutable one. Brought Witch Agatha into an early TIE with Claudius early yesterday, then vanished, but continued to comment.
9. De Chatillôn -- Cast a 1st vote on FatWombat yesterday before getting voted for bandwagoning by Marco. Vanished since then. Accused by Avernite of casting the last 'unserious' vote, but I'd argue this was Graymarch. FW ultimately proved a throw-away vote.
10. Sleepyhead -- Voted me early, before being the first Marco voter. Don't know what else to say about him so far.
11. Claude LC -- The finest of the Zombies voted Marco purely in self defense, which is hard to read. If he ever flips evil, the Panzer voters (Capi, Spock, Euro) might look a little suspicious.
12. Liefwarrior -- Wanted to see more Wombat-Wombat combat. Was disappointed in this, but didn't seem to bother him too much. Cast a very low-energy vote against Claude for being 'saved' possibly while pleading business. Pretty underwhelming -- maybe too underwhelming to actually be evil. But maybe not, and this sort of behavior deserves votes.
13. Wagonlitz -- Voted aedan early and vanished yesterday. Points out that it is possible to fit Euro's actions into a baddie narrative. No real read yet.
14. Audren -- Was the 1st person to push any voter to 3 votes with his Avernite vote (possibly benefiting Claude, Agatha, and Yvanoff), then vanished.
16. Avernite -- Initially voted called out Yvanoff for his populist demagoguery, whipping up hatred for all things Danish (an arguably legitimate behavioral read!). Was instrumental in guaranteeing Panzer rather than Matthew was the primary 'switch-to' candidate close to deadline, thus fulfilling Johho's pattern of vote switches.
My understanding of this phenomenon is that the other people are suspicious of those initially bringing up the argument and don't want to feel like sheep so they insist upon putting their own spin on someone else's idea. Don't really see this making Avernite evil though.
17. Witch Agatha -- Fellow Matthew voter, Clearly intended to vote no-show voters. As Aedan points out, this is of questionably utility -- why wouldn't the wolves vote early, helps control the narrative for the day and keeps you from having to take drastic measures to save your packmates. You have a pack there to remind you to show. Though you do on the balance tend to only kill off marginally engaged villagers. I voted Matthew partly just to see how people would react.
18. EUROO7 -- Somehow knew or guessed Arky was evil. Was disappointed in Marco, Claude, and Avernite as candidates. Wanted us to switch to Arky. Not wanting to feel like a sheep, I recommended Matthew instead (this might be the basis of Euro's hunch that I'm evil [an argument that applies to Capi and Avernite as well as me, I'd point out]. Other people wanted Panzer, chose Panzer upon hearing my metagamey motivations for preferring Matthew over Panzer. Eager for a TIE. Euro is hard to read, and I don't have a solid opinion one way or another yet
19. R.Graymarch -- Cast a vote that he goes to lengths to assure us is Random, but pushes Claude into the top candidate tier, possibly to the benefit of Marco, Avernite, or even Yvanoff or either Wombat. Could possibly do with a vote or 2.
20. Beartjah -- Possibly the quietest person so far, voted Yvanoff early and vanished. Everyone's friendly neighborhood Meh-Bear can be slow to activate, but I find I like having him around. Not ready to kill him yet.
21. Yvanoff -- Cast a 'demagogic' vote against Noble Wagon early day 1, then vanished... ...only to reappear shortly after deadline. Potential lurker. Should probably keep an eye on him. Was briefly a top-tier contender, so the late switchers could have been helping him.
22. Johho --
Maybe the baddies start on the councils? This is going to be an odd game, innit? Preparing myself for the inevitability of council analysis. An early would-be Claude killer.
23. MarcoRossolini -- Feel like I've already gone over Marco in my Capi section.
25. Spockyt -- Created early TIE by voting Avernite, possibly to the benefit of Witch Agatha or Claude. Showed up near deadline to disparage the current set of (day 1) candidates (as if we'd have a compelling one) before voting known-villager Panzer for the same offense for which I dinged Matthew. Followed it up today by voting pathetically easy lynch Yakman. Aedan's behavioral read is legitimate, but not compulsory -- I could read the Arky comment as an innocent joke. Still, I feel Spock gets mislynched a lot, so I'd set the bar for killing him relatively high.
26. TheFatWombat -- Wants to kill his wombat brethren. Other than that.... meh.
27. deathbywombat -- Another tough one to read, capable of putting on a very convincing show as a baddie. Half-tempted to read the switch to Arky as an alibi vote. Not ready to kill him as he does inspire the rest of us to play better while he's alive and there's no solid case.
28. Yakman --
If you think Claude, Wagon, and Euro are easy lynches, might I introduce you to the oft-maligned Yak? We all try to play the same as a goodie and a baddie. Is anyone actually better than Yakman in this regard?
On the balance, a good case can be made for Capi and Spock, but they're both pretty convenient punching bags. Thus, why not pressure Liefwarrior?
VOTE LIEFWARRIOR!
2 dead baddies from 2 packs at the start of day 2. Not a bad start, though the baddies did die before they could yield much voting info. Probably a bit small to be a 3 pack game, my guess is 2 packs of 4, a sorc, and a free cultist.
1. Capibara -- Most of the mention of Capibara has been with regard to his TIE happiness. He did create the ultimate Marco - Panzer and dared someone to break it. Creation of ties is far from a bad thing -- though the move greatly benefited Claude (and perhaps Matthew, DBW, and Yvanoff as well), while condemning Panzer the known villager. So far... neutral -- many goodies accidently vote other goodies day 1. If we kill Capibara today, it should be for this....
Which is looks pretty terrible in retrospect. In fairness, at the time it was a legit question for a villager to ask too -- why were Marco (who really looks just as likely to be a panicky baddie as a nervous goodie to me), Avernite, and Claude bad candidates? (Claude dies early all the time [ugh! look at me! Irredeemable meta-gamer!] Avernite can be useful to have around [oof! There I go again!]) Why was Arky better, and why should we let Euro direct our lynches? We all end up with egg on our face as villagers occasionally... ...but still, he actively spoke up in favor of a known baddie in the thread. If analysis means anything, he is a perfectly legitimate candidate. I'm leaning toward innocent here myself, but wouldn't fault anyone for coming down the other way, and killing him for info is certainly justifiable.
3. aedan777 -- Cast a vote on someone he wouldn't mind seeing die and vanished for the day. Find myself nodding in agreement while I read his post today... ...and questioning his motivations at the same time. Behavioral read on Spock is insightful, but would hedge that Spock is a naturally sketchy player so my bar for wanting him dead is slightly higher and it's his first game back in a while [oh gods! All I do is meta-game! Maybe I deserve death for this alone -- remember that I've already claimed OEO villager before you consider acting on this, however]
4. Dedonus -- Cast an arbitrary early vote on Avernite and vanished for the day. Avernite was a legitimate contender for most of the day, so can't call it a throw-away.
5. MatthewFW190 -- Zombie. Still hasn't voted. Failed to gain traction yesterday as a CAWZ candidate primarily due to the preferences of Avernite, Spock, and Euro.
6. Culann -- Really don't understand his initial Audren vote (reacting to a Wagon? Against whom?) Switched (justifiably!) to Marco for Marco's odd DeChat vote, then vanished. Posted a brief summation today. If only @Cliges were here to help us interpret his behavior!
7. LatinKaiser -- All eyes are on our TIE-breaker. I'm generally against lynching people for breaking day 1 ties (I would've broken the TIE the other way, but this is easier to say in hindsight). Woe is him should Marco filp baddie at some point. I've seen baddies risk such moves before, but it's probably the exception rather than the rule.
8. the_hdk -- An inscrutable one. Brought Witch Agatha into an early TIE with Claudius early yesterday, then vanished, but continued to comment.
9. De Chatillôn -- Cast a 1st vote on FatWombat yesterday before getting voted for bandwagoning by Marco. Vanished since then. Accused by Avernite of casting the last 'unserious' vote, but I'd argue this was Graymarch. FW ultimately proved a throw-away vote.
10. Sleepyhead -- Voted me early, before being the first Marco voter. Don't know what else to say about him so far.
11. Claude LC -- The finest of the Zombies voted Marco purely in self defense, which is hard to read. If he ever flips evil, the Panzer voters (Capi, Spock, Euro) might look a little suspicious.
12. Liefwarrior -- Wanted to see more Wombat-Wombat combat. Was disappointed in this, but didn't seem to bother him too much. Cast a very low-energy vote against Claude for being 'saved' possibly while pleading business. Pretty underwhelming -- maybe too underwhelming to actually be evil. But maybe not, and this sort of behavior deserves votes.
13. Wagonlitz -- Voted aedan early and vanished yesterday. Points out that it is possible to fit Euro's actions into a baddie narrative. No real read yet.
14. Audren -- Was the 1st person to push any voter to 3 votes with his Avernite vote (possibly benefiting Claude, Agatha, and Yvanoff), then vanished.
16. Avernite -- Initially voted called out Yvanoff for his populist demagoguery, whipping up hatred for all things Danish (an arguably legitimate behavioral read!). Was instrumental in guaranteeing Panzer rather than Matthew was the primary 'switch-to' candidate close to deadline, thus fulfilling Johho's pattern of vote switches.
My understanding of this phenomenon is that the other people are suspicious of those initially bringing up the argument and don't want to feel like sheep so they insist upon putting their own spin on someone else's idea. Don't really see this making Avernite evil though.
17. Witch Agatha -- Fellow Matthew voter, Clearly intended to vote no-show voters. As Aedan points out, this is of questionably utility -- why wouldn't the wolves vote early, helps control the narrative for the day and keeps you from having to take drastic measures to save your packmates. You have a pack there to remind you to show. Though you do on the balance tend to only kill off marginally engaged villagers. I voted Matthew partly just to see how people would react.
18. EUROO7 -- Somehow knew or guessed Arky was evil. Was disappointed in Marco, Claude, and Avernite as candidates. Wanted us to switch to Arky. Not wanting to feel like a sheep, I recommended Matthew instead (this might be the basis of Euro's hunch that I'm evil [an argument that applies to Capi and Avernite as well as me, I'd point out]. Other people wanted Panzer, chose Panzer upon hearing my metagamey motivations for preferring Matthew over Panzer. Eager for a TIE. Euro is hard to read, and I don't have a solid opinion one way or another yet
19. R.Graymarch -- Cast a vote that he goes to lengths to assure us is Random, but pushes Claude into the top candidate tier, possibly to the benefit of Marco, Avernite, or even Yvanoff or either Wombat. Could possibly do with a vote or 2.
20. Beartjah -- Possibly the quietest person so far, voted Yvanoff early and vanished. Everyone's friendly neighborhood Meh-Bear can be slow to activate, but I find I like having him around. Not ready to kill him yet.
21. Yvanoff -- Cast a 'demagogic' vote against Noble Wagon early day 1, then vanished... ...only to reappear shortly after deadline. Potential lurker. Should probably keep an eye on him. Was briefly a top-tier contender, so the late switchers could have been helping him.
22. Johho --
Maybe the baddies start on the councils? This is going to be an odd game, innit? Preparing myself for the inevitability of council analysis. An early would-be Claude killer.
23. MarcoRossolini -- Feel like I've already gone over Marco in my Capi section.
25. Spockyt -- Created early TIE by voting Avernite, possibly to the benefit of Witch Agatha or Claude. Showed up near deadline to disparage the current set of (day 1) candidates (as if we'd have a compelling one) before voting known-villager Panzer for the same offense for which I dinged Matthew. Followed it up today by voting pathetically easy lynch Yakman. Aedan's behavioral read is legitimate, but not compulsory -- I could read the Arky comment as an innocent joke. Still, I feel Spock gets mislynched a lot, so I'd set the bar for killing him relatively high.
26. TheFatWombat -- Wants to kill his wombat brethren. Other than that.... meh.
27. deathbywombat -- Another tough one to read, capable of putting on a very convincing show as a baddie. Half-tempted to read the switch to Arky as an alibi vote. Not ready to kill him as he does inspire the rest of us to play better while he's alive and there's no solid case.
28. Yakman --
If you think Claude, Wagon, and Euro are easy lynches, might I introduce you to the oft-maligned Yak? We all try to play the same as a goodie and a baddie. Is anyone actually better than Yakman in this regard?
On the balance, a good case can be made for Capi and Spock, but they're both pretty convenient punching bags. Thus, why not pressure Liefwarrior?
VOTE LIEFWARRIOR!
Don't really get dbw's behavior yesterday - why try to run up arky after the voters (well, only Euro really) on him had gone away, a couple minutes to deadline ? Puzzling. It was bound to produce nothing, as it inevitably did.
LK's not too suspicious imho, and if you disagree you'll have to explain me how blind Day 1 TIES benefit the village in any way, shape or form
To sum up yesterday, less than 3h from deadline Claude, Avernite and Marco were the main contenders (OK, arguably me as well since LK's vote shortly after brought me close. And then the move towards Matthew, which would ultimately lead to Panzer's demise using the same CAWZ logic, was cast by witch agatha:
Vote Witch Agatha
LK's not too suspicious imho, and if you disagree you'll have to explain me how blind Day 1 TIES benefit the village in any way, shape or form
Agree with you there
To sum up yesterday, less than 3h from deadline Claude, Avernite and Marco were the main contenders (OK, arguably me as well since LK's vote shortly after brought me close. And then the move towards Matthew, which would ultimately lead to Panzer's demise using the same CAWZ logic, was cast by witch agatha:
There's not even an explanation there. He/she was either trying to take the steam off the top candidates, or was afraid of casting a decisive vote and decided to waste it at a time when events were set in motion
Vote Witch Agatha
Couple of things:
Vote Culann
- Arkasas had a throwaway on Dedonus day 1. Could be bad alibi.
- Euro tried to get traction on Arky yesterday. Capi asked why but ignored the non reason Euro gave. deathbywombat jumped on close to deadline when it wasn't going anywhere and stayed on, seemingly surprised a non-case went nowhere. The hunt could be either Euro or dbw wanting to follow through with their thoughts.
- Very little acknowledgement that Panzer was a part of a "seer council" except johho and alynkio on the side. I presume this means the lot of you have more information on this than I do and see no reason to discuss it, or you're doing that behind closed doors. Now does this mean there is no seer?
- Culann videofanning seer is dead.
Vote Culann