Age of Imperialism

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Well,Istria is now a part of Croatia and the number of Croatians was always over 90% there,Ragusa and Bosnia were parts of Croatia until they broke away in the 12th century,I think,so they were under Croatian rule for five centuries and the names of their rulers were Croatian because there were Croatians,as for Steiermark it was inhebitet by Croatians when we came there in the 7th century,and today's Sloveniens were originaly Croatians,but because of them mixing with Germans and German cultural influence they are what they are today and you could hardly notice they are Slav or were Slavs.

And Hive can you please change the name of Ragusa to Dubrovnik,Zara to Zadar and Trieste to Trst?

Dubrobnik/Ragusa was independent until the Napoleonic era. It wasn't part of Croatia. Still Croatia ought to have a core on Dubrovnik as the city didn't control much territory. But that's only IF "Ragusa" province represents Dubrovnik/Ragusa . However on the map the province is a lot further down the Adriatic than Dubrovnik is (just check any map). So that one is a question of interpretation.

It's not true that Istria is now a part of Croatia. Most of it is in Croatia, but the northern section is in Slovenia. Still the EU province extends an awful long way down the Adriatic, so it seems to me that Croatia certainly should have a core on one or the other of Ragusa/Istria.

Steiermark is also a question of interpretation. Does it represent Stryria, Carinthia, Carniola, or some other part of the area. Whether Croatia gets a core rather depends on the answer to that question IMHO.

The inhabitants of Dubrovnik in 1419 still called in Ragusa AFAIK.

And the town of Trieste was not part of Croatia in the EU period, it was attached to Styria/Steiermark, and as such wasn't even under the Hungarian crown. As such I think that the German name makes as much sense as the Croatian name.

 

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Oh right, I forgot about that... those cores were added by Paradox, not me. And now you mention them, I agree that they are silly. I'll remove them.



Really? As far as I know, they weren't even really independent during this period...



It is? That's because I forgot to remove it, then. I'll fix that right away.

Well,they were a part of the A-H empire and since their rulers were crowned kings of Croatia(The Kingdom of Croatia and Dalmatia) those places were ruled by the king of Croatia(The Habsburg's and Hungarians).

Don't even think about removeing Croatia.

 

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The people of Dubrovnik always refered to their city as Dubrovnik,not Ragusa.

 

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Btw Hive,you don't have to change anything,I will do it and make it historical.

 

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Hehe, heh, hehe. :rofl:

Now I understand why you laughed.

 

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Don't even think about removeing Croatia.

Oh but I already have, for the next release.

As I understand it, Croatia was a part of Hungary in 1419. Whether or not a nation should exist as a vassal or as an interegrated part of the "ruler" country is sometimes hard to judge, but I think this is most accurate.

 

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Croatia did exist,it was a Hungarian vassal,Croatia had its own senate(sabor) and Ban(vice-roy or however you call it in English),so that proves that we were (semi)indipendent and that you are wrong and that Croatia should be in the game.

 

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Croatia did exist,it was a Hungarian vassal,Croatia had its own senate(sabor) and Ban(vice-roy or however you call it in English),so that proves that we were (semi)indipendent and that you are wrong and that Croatia should be in the game.

Sorry, but I disagree. Many regions had their own parliaments without actually being an independent nation.

 

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And aswell the Habsburgs and Hungarians had to be crowned the kings of Croatia to control the area.

 

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Hive,are you english?The english have allways tried to arasse Croatia from the map.

 

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Hive,are you english?The english have allways tried to arasse Croatia from the map.

No, I'm Danish - and I don't have anything against Croatia. But from the sources I have read, I have come to the conclusion that Croatia wasn't autonomous enough to be independent in EUII.

But they still exist as a revolter, so you can just start a game as Hungary and then release them as vassals if you want to play them.

 

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Now I will only play the regular EU2 with my modifications(cores,culture changes,new CoT's and other things).

 

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just release Croatia as hungary or change the file if you dont like it like that

 

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Hive not really important but in the 1520 scenario Brittany is in the list of selectable nations twice

 

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Hive not really important but in the 1520 scenario Brittany is in the list of selectable nations twice

Not anymore.

 

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Not anymore.

In the Post-Napoleonic 1816 scenario, Two Sicilies isn't selectable o

 

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In the Post-Napoleonic 1816 scenario, Two Sicilies isn't selectable o

They are now.

 

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Hive,there is a spelling mistake in the Prussian-Danish event,it is february,not februray,and bring Croatia back to the game.

 

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Hive,there is a spelling mistake in the Prussian-Danish event,it is february,not februray

Indeed, that's what happens when things are a bit rushed... fixed for next patch.

and bring Croatia back to the game.

I just did another search on Croatia and Hungary's history, and as I understand it Croatia was annexed into Hungary in the 12th century...

 

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Indeed, that's what happens when things are a bit rushed... fixed for next patch.



I just did another search on Croatia and Hungary's history, and as I understand it Croatia was annexed into Hungary in the 12th century...

No,but we had the same kings so the most accurate modul would be Croatia being a vassal of Hungary.