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Hive said:
It is indeed a work in progress, and lots of stuff about that scenario could be better still. One of the major problems is that I have made very few events for it so far.

And I'm afraid I won't be addressing the 1337 scenario in the upcoming patch - a patch I'm, to be honest, only making because I'm starting a new MP game using the 1492 scenario next week, and want some things tweaked for it.
Not a problem. I wasn't trying to put pressure on you, I'm just eager, that's all. It's your mod, I'm just mooching off your hard work :p
But I do plan on going back to the 1337 scenario eventually...
That's what I like to hear.
 
Personally, I think Portugal's involvement in Indonesia colonisation is way to small. I made some researches and it turns out that competition between Netherlands and Portugal was extremely tough in that region, but in my 1568 game (1640 now) they own only two provinces in whole Indonesia and it seems they completely forgot about everything east from Africa. I am taking CoTs from native powers there and they just sit in that crappy Guandong and yawn :)

Wikipedia says: "These [Indonesian islands] were vulnerable to the Europeans, who were in pursuit of dominating the spice trade. In the 17th century, the Dutch emerged as the most powerful of the Europeans, ousting the British and Portuguese (except for their colony Portuguese Timor on the island of Timor)."

Indeed Netherlands are the most powerful of the Europeans there now, but mainly because Portugals didn't even try compete. Hive, are you against guiding nations with events?
 
It's not my fault that the AI is stupid as hell, Rythin.

As to guiding them with events, what exactly can I do? I can't make them establish colonies through events...
 
IIRC countries are more likely to colonise provinces which are their cores. Also, you could event wars with countries in that region (the one near Malacca, the one near Timor, don't remember exact names).

Oh, and what do you think about giving Netherlands perm CBs on nations in Indonesia? Like England and Spain have on American countries/tribes?
 
I despise colonial cores, and I have *not* given out any to neither England nor Spain.

There is, of course, the ToT for Spain and Portugal - but I might sleep that dreadfully irritating event...
 
Rythin said:
IIRC countries are more likely to colonise provinces which are their cores. Also, you could event wars with countries in that region (the one near Malacca, the one near Timor, don't remember exact names).
Unless they have a reasonable base in the area already, this will just make the AI send soldiers out there piecemeal and waste a load of money.
Oh, and what do you think about giving Netherlands perm CBs on nations in Indonesia? Like England and Spain have on American countries/tribes?
England don't have perm CBs on North America as far as I remember. Personally I think the Spanish one should be removed, though as it's hardcoded, this would end up meaning changing SPA to one of the user-defined tags.
 
Owen said:
England don't have perm CBs on North America as far as I remember. Personally I think the Spanish one should be removed, though as it's hardcoded, this would end up meaning changing SPA to one of the user-defined tags.

That wouldn't be a bad idea. It would also removes their free cb on every non-christian. They might be needed against the CA and SA american pagans in the early part of the game in the second part of the game they are certanly not justified.
 
Owen,
Why you think Spanish CBs should be removed? I can't believe European nations really cared that Spaniards are fighting with Incas or Aztecs before it was too late (Spanish Gold Age, eh?). And CBs for Netherlands would eliminate huge BB penalty for attacking and taking provinces (like CoTs) from some native barbarians at the end of the known world (and would encourage AI Netherlands to expand in that area, which can be cure to chronic stupidity of AI).
 
ptan54 said:
Permanent CBs should be AI only events - the human player must use his wits to win the race.

I haven't done any AI only events yet, and I see no compelling reason to start now...

At any rate, I won't be doing any new events before I have made a new map - which will take a lot of time...
 
Hive, I've noticed a problem with some events in AoI. Events 15392, 15393 and 15394 in major_chi.txt, all entitled 'Effects from the Opium Trade', require ENG to exist. They occur in the 1830s, when ENG will never exist; it will have become U14 (Great Britain) as the Act of Union fires between 1707 and 1820. This means that these events will never fire.

I have also found the following events that use the ENG tag after the Act of Union:

Event 15396 changes relations with ENG.

Event 15409 has in its triggers a requirement that certain provinces be owned by ENG.
 
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Hive! I know that now you are totally involved in creating new maps! I tell you again that Italy is very well done (just the little change in Marche-Abruzzi-Apulia...) :)

But you didn't tell us which settings you suggest that we use in playing this beautiful mod to be more historical possible, if any...

Well, I had a look at the events and I really appreciated the French-Austrian event in the Duchy of Milan.
If I am not wrong, AGCEEP didn't assign Austrian or Spanish cores upon Milan... so no Italian Wars could happen really!
 
Hive, when do you plan to finish making your map (and adapting your files to it) ?
 
Bordic said:
Hive! I know that now you are totally involved in creating new maps! I tell you again that Italy is very well done (just the little change in Marche-Abruzzi-Apulia...) :)


Heh I'll look into tweaking those borders tomorrow then. :p

But you didn't tell us which settings you suggest that we use in playing this beautiful mod to be more historical possible, if any...

Hmm, dunno... very hard/normal is what I usually play myself. You could perhaps maybe make the AI even less aggressive, if you like. But no matter what settings you chose, AI will do wacky stuff that will make some aspects of your game pretty ahistorical sooner or later... :D

Well, I had a look at the events and I really appreciated the French-Austrian event in the Duchy of Milan.
If I am not wrong, AGCEEP didn't assign Austrian or Spanish cores upon Milan... so no Italian Wars could happen really!

Yes, it always bothered me about the vanilla setup than either Austria or France got a core on it - not both. With them both getting the core, there's more reason to start this huge Italian War which they did have.

Italian history fascinates me, and I'm hoping to improve the Italian setup and events even further after I'm done with my new map.

lawkeeper said:
Hive, when do you plan to finish making your map (and adapting your files to it) ?

Oh, I'm afraid that will take months. It's a whole lot of work, and I don't want to rush anything. I want this map to be as good as possible, and I'll let it take the time required for that to happen.
 
Hey folks

Okay, I d/led AoI 2.0/2.4 tonight. First, it looks great! (I might go in and play with some of the country colors, but that's my lookout.) I do have two problems though:

The 1337 and 1861 scenarios are giving me errors while loading the scenario. Here's one from 1861:
'ERROR: (Country: Unexpected field)' date={ Line=18 file=aoi\scenarios\1861\1861_spa.inc...

I have three options: Abort - CTD. Retry - CTD. Ignore - keeps going, but then another similar error comes up. After 4 or 5 of these, CTD.

The 'EU2 Unlimited patch' insists it's been installed. I also loaded the 1816 scenario and ran it past 1819 - other than the expected "freeze" at Dec 30, 1819 it ran fine thereafter ... which tends to prove the patch is working.

So, it's not 'just' Hive's mods, and it's probably not a failed patch...it's just those two scenarios. Any ideas?
 
CatKnight said:
So, it's not 'just' Hive's mods, and it's probably not a failed patch...it's just those two scenarios. Any ideas?

Yup. It's because you don't have the latest beta patch installed. Surprisingly many people doesn't notice that comment in my readme...