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Add in "Artists" along with the writers and ding ding ding. We have a winner.

(See also: GRRM's "The Wall" in the Song of Ice and Fire books. He definitely didn't think it was a Kilometer high, maybe a big castle wall in height, but not much more! And not that in his mind at all!)

Yeah, supposedly GRRM visited Hadrians Wall, saw how high that actually was, and immediately said he made his Wall way to big.
 
Well there are mechs where the lore states the pilots were so cramped they got back issues.
The lore also tries to tell us that mech cockpits are big enough that the mechwarrior can get up and walk around to the toilet that is supposedly standard equipment in them.

BattleTech's scale has always been all over the place.
 
BattleTech's scale lore has always been all over the place.

And we love it for it. Except those who like to keep our nonsense consistent :)
 
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The lore also tries to tell us that mech cockpits are big enough that the mechwarrior can get up and walk around to the toilet that is supposedly standard equipment in them.

BattleTech's scale has always been all over the place.
I'm going to wait for the expansion with the command mech variants like the dual seat Battlemaster. The second seat is needed for the washroom attendant who hands you a hot towel , sanitizer and a refreshing mint after your business.
 
I find this kind of discussion both fascinating and inherently inconclusive at the same time; while I acknowledge that, at least in terms of pure tonnage, the smaller scale 'Mech that Mojo Amok provides a picture (very helpfully) of above is perhaps somewhat more realistic (ha ha), especially considering the sheer weight of the armour, I personally prefer the scale of the right-hand example. Considering the sheer volume of weapons (and ammo, even if we're only considering things like machine guns and their required materiel - a whole 200 rounds [which would take up a huge amount of space, considering that a "round" comprises the cannonade of gunfire that would occur in a ten second round], not to mention Auto Cannons, missiles - short and long range alike - would utilize), in addition to - as has been indicated - the volume that the cockpit would fill, considering that it has to be large enough to theoretically house the Pilot, and a passenger, for up to a week at a time - and food storage and washroom facilities - when working in a potentially hostile atmosphere or vacuum environment, we can't be looking at a space that's basically equivalent to what you see for a Formula 1 driver. Yeah, the theoretical Pilot and passenger won't be gettin' up and doing jogging rounds like Frank Poole in the Discovery in 2001: ASO, but they've got to have enough space to at least get up and move around a bit. The right-hand example fits this concept much better, from my perspective, and also...well, provides that intimidation factor that I think 'Mechs, and the interstellar empires (of varying sizes and capabilities, true) rely on to scare the crap out of resident populations that might otherwise be registering protest.
 
I just watched the Per-Alpha mission and compared it to the mining mission. I saw a definite change in the scale of the graphics.

In the Pre-Alpha, vehicles seemed to be knee high on a mech, while in the mining mission they only came up to the calf. Even the flimsy buildings in the Beta and red city don’t seem to top the knee.

I know it’s too late to complain but I liked the Pre-Alpha scale better.
 
I just watched the Per-Alpha mission and compared it to the mining mission. I saw a definite change in the scale of the graphics.

In the Pre-Alpha, vehicles seemed to be knee high on a mech, while in the mining mission they only came up to the calf. Even the flimsy buildings in the Beta and red city don’t seem to top the knee.

I know it’s too late to complain but I liked the Pre-Alpha scale better.
There was discussion on the old forums and allusion to the importance and emphasis on mechs being disproportionate to their surroundings for ease of user management and focus on them for visuals, etc. No, the scale does not match, do I care overly much? , not really unless we get into company sized co-op engagements in the future where they would clutter the screen or if they block visuals too much.
Of course, individual opinions do vary and are never wrong for that :)
 
...Of course, individual opinions do vary and are never wrong for that :)
Are you sure? Because when it comes to Quads and @Hatchy, I've been WRONG more times than I can easily count or remember... what with all the concussions and whatnot.
 
Are you sure? Because when it comes to Quads and @Hatchy, I've been WRONG more times than I can easily count or remember... what with all the concussions and whatnot.
How did you get a concussion? Oh no! You didn't let @Hatchy treat you for a minor headache did you?!!

As far as quads? They're around.....somewhere.
Maybe they're hiding out with the LAMs or something. Food for thought....no need for dejection....
 
Mercenary choice
Arano ~ Espinosa
both pay in Cbills