Then he is truly unworthy to be called a Rurikid.What if I told you he will reign 52 long years?
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Assassination and war are too boring for the student? The Professor must not be great at telling stories
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I'm cackling about the apoplexy comment.
Congrats on conquering Khazaria for a short while.
I wonder what kind of legends future people came up with about Ali the Impaler...
What realms gained independence during the Independence War?
The new emperor has a large realm. Will he manage to get primogeniture passed to keep it united? How long will we wait for that?
Congrats on conquering Khazaria for a short while.
I wonder what kind of legends future people came up with about Ali the Impaler...
What realms gained independence during the Independence War?
The new emperor has a large realm. Will he manage to get primogeniture passed to keep it united? How long will we wait for that?
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Aw, murdering children with poisoned sesame candies isn't nice.
That's a long time to make a lot of bad decisions to earn such a title.What if I told you he will reign 52 long years?
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Well, that's fair... I got up to plenty on my wedding! It was awesome, and just packing up everything for my honeymoon to the land of the Franks...
That said, if the ruler was a footnote, a whole update seems a waste. Perhaps a full paper would be the proper midterm? Citations abound!
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:'(
Kids these days...
More like he told it for a whole lecture, with grueling boring details.Assassination and war are too boring for the student? The Professor must not be great at telling stories
Thanks! Khazaria will become a mainstay.
The realms lost were relatively minor IIRC, mostly in Finland.
Primo is far off, we're in the 900s, and it usually comes in the 1200s.
Yeah, I wonder who...Aw, murdering children with poisoned sesame candies isn't nice.
That's a long time to make a lot of bad decisions to earn such a title.
Long time, much to tell!
Enjoy your honeymoon!
No waste, it is important in the long run, to get a clear picture of the Rurkids. Or something.
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I suggest the professor stick to the highlights and if there are too many of those then break it up into several lectures.What if I told you he will reign 52 long years?
Congratulations to @Wraith11B ! Enjoy the land of the Franks. Glad it was a happy time for you and your new wife.
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High King Búi “the Unworthy”
High King Búi “the Unworthy” of Khazaria (975-1031)
High King Búi II “the Unworthy” of Gardariki (979-1031)
Islam spread fast! Note that the Byzantines, a steadfast Gardariki ally, is fully Muwalladi by now.
High King Búi II “the Unworthy” of Gardariki (979-1031)
- With his brother’s death, Búi reunites the empires, but this Norse boy has become a Muslim under his mother’s tutelage; an Ash’ari!
- With this, the Muslim age of Gardariki begins, and Búi starts demanding all vassals convert. Fourteen of fifteen direct vassals accept. That’s, like quite a lot. Must be an expert diplomat.
- Then again, he is in a dissolution war and shortly after taking power in Gardariki religious revolts pop up everywhere; Åsatru, Suomonesko, Sloviaskan. And a Khazar revolt as well.
- Then, after three years of fighting – and winning – and seeing as Islam spreads in his lands, he declares war on his father’s best friend’s country, Sweden. Citing the need for Islam to spread, he starts this war in 992. Note the year.
- During this epic, epic war (professor used the word, not me, but I agree) there are rebellions upon rebellions. Thousands upon tens of thusands die. Independence war, Åsartru, Ukonumsko, Sloviaskan, Kurzarite, Tengri, Vidilist, Catholic…
- All these revolts except the Catholic one is won, but the war in Sweden rages on. New kings emerge in Sweden, are slain, emerge… Islam’s armies are almost obliterated three times, but Búi keeps coming back.
- New rebellions emerge still, the high king marries off all his kids, which are by the way many, like 14 survives into adulthood (several wives does that to you!), gets powerful alliances.
- In 1013 – that’s 21 years of warfare! – Sweden submits. But Sampi, Finland, Lithuania, parts of Estonia and Pommerania is lost to rebels. I’d call that phyrric.
- Rest of his reign a vicious cycle of uprisings and civil wars, not one month of peace. Sweden rises up like three times, religious revolts en masse. Some independence wars. Smaller wars from neighbors that perceive weakness.
- Búi dies of a fatal apoplexy (there’s that word again! Looked it up, yuck!) and his Áli inherits Gardariki, while his grandson inherits Khazaria. Professor didn’t even give up the name of the grandson. I have my suspicions he’ll not last.
Islam spread fast! Note that the Byzantines, a steadfast Gardariki ally, is fully Muwalladi by now.
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Fascinating. A Muslim Byzantium leads to a Muslim Russia. A jihad across the north. Looks like your student is starting to become a more copious note-taker!
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It follows that if a Rurikid reigns for 56 years, it would be 56 years of unending warfare, rebellion, and bloodshed while taking the unlikeliest path forward possible. (I say unlikeliest by my ambitions for an Orthodox Vlach empire were once thwarted by all the Russians converting to Islam. )
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I'm not sure why Bui is "Unworthy" in history's eyes, perhaps all the wars?
An Islamic Russia is fascinating...And the Byzantines as well!
It's good to see the student being excited for once. Perhaps this course has grown on him more than he'd admit.
An Islamic Russia is fascinating...And the Byzantines as well!
It's good to see the student being excited for once. Perhaps this course has grown on him more than he'd admit.
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Conversions are always messy...
What's the new ruler's policy on alcohol? OTL, the Russians chose Eastern Orthodoxy over Islam because the latter forbid alcohol. Maybe that's why everyone was in revolt?
What's the new ruler's policy on alcohol? OTL, the Russians chose Eastern Orthodoxy over Islam because the latter forbid alcohol. Maybe that's why everyone was in revolt?
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How long will the Empire remain Islamic? Up to 62 with a 56yr reign, Go Boi! Thanks for updating
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Indeed, Byz leads Russia! It was a long reign, I think she did no better of worse than usual.
Why, of course. We wouldn't have it any other way.It follows that if a Rurikid reigns for 56 years, it would be 56 years of unending warfare, rebellion, and bloodshed while taking the unlikeliest path forward possible. (I say unlikeliest by my ambitions for an Orthodox Vlach empire were once thwarted by all the Russians converting to Islam.
I was planning to remain Norse for the longest time possible, but this inheritance surprised me and I ran with it!He was unworthy when he inherited already, having reigned shortly by the AI in Khazaria. I guess his early problems gave him it, he was about to lose the civil war when I intervened with my previous ruler. But yeah, this was a bloody reign, so perhaps he was not so worthy after all? I am not entirely sure when Byzantium converted, but they did so early on. Now my natural allies!I'm not sure why Bui is "Unworthy" in history's eyes, perhaps all the wars?
An Islamic Russia is fascinating...And the Byzantines as well!
It's good to see the student being excited for once. Perhaps this course has grown on him more than he'd admit.
Messy, but it's going faster than anticipated. The new ruler is against the use of alcohol and hashish, as a recent convert would be.
For as long as no heir starts any shenanigans.
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Shock and revulsion!
Oh no, boo and hiss (from a traditionalist Rurikid viewpoint
). But also interesting.Ah well, sometimes the game just throws up a curve ball, and you’ve given it a good whack! Easier I suppose than trying to reform with the Old Gods (if that’s broadly the same kind of process as in CK2).
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This clearly is the real reason everyone dubbed him unworthy.
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High King Áli II of Gardariki
High King Áli II of Gardariki (1031-1042)
The world when Alí II had kicked the bucket.
- Seems to be one of those cursed rulers. Eleven years only on the throne? Yeesh.
- Starts his reign by reuniting Gardariki with Khazaria. Is this being a thing now? Doing an initiation war to reunite the two empires?
- Foolishly involves himself in a brawl between soldiers and gets wounded. I mean, doesn’t he have people under him for that?
- Wages war against Sapmi to get them back into the realm and succeeds. But an independence war starts and is still going when he dies of typhus. Probably didn’t help with that wound from the soldiers’ brawl either.
- But here’s the kicker: His heir is his daughter. And she’s married to a guy from another dynasty and has loads of kids. All of the Pinsk dynasty. I mean, it’s still Rurikid blood in there, but it seems like the direct line is going to lose power...
The world when Alí II had kicked the bucket.
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In that portrait his wife does look quite disappointed with him, not entirely sure I blame her. Looking at those notes the reason for his lack of nickname is apparent, he couldn't even fail in an interesting way. I think the student can rest assured very little about him will feature in the exam, expect perhaps as a "last of the direct line" type character.
Can the High Queen turn things around? It didn't go well last time, but then it rarely goes well for the Rurik' High Kings either so who knows?
Can the High Queen turn things around? It didn't go well last time, but then it rarely goes well for the Rurik' High Kings either so who knows?
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