Where are the pure male-line Rurikids besides the Kingdom of Gardariki? Are there any outside of Russia?
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From memory, all are inside the realm. Primarily up north. Some counts, dukes, one or two kings I believe.
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Tsar Dmitriy “the Stout” of Russia
Tsar Dmitriy “the Stout” of Russia (1049-1092)
- Continues his mother’s war for Khazaria, but gets declared war upon by Åsatru believers. And then a dissolution of the empire of Russia quickly after. So much for a new and better dynasty with stability, I guess.
- Then again, he wins Khazaria, beats the Åsatru war and ends up imprisioning half the realm when he wins the dangerous dissolution war, the latter in 1054.
- In 1055 a new independence war occurs, and he beats them thoroughly and imprisons even more vassals after three years of warfare.
- With all his realm in prison or supporting him, he goes to war against Carpathia for the principality of Bukovina. This turns out to be a mistake, slog back and forth for years as his forces cannot properly beat the enemy, and this war goes on between 1059 and 1070.
- Then he gives the realm peace. Peace, in medival Russia? Incredible.
- The well-known Pinsk’s Saga is commissioned in 1078. I have read that one. Really enthralling stuff. Half of it is pure legend, of course.
- In 1089 he tired of peace and goes for a small jihad for Hungary. Like, the entire kingdom.
- He dies before the war is over, though. He dies of old age and his son and brother-in-law (yuck!) inherits.
- Final note, this guy is intriguing. So strong, effective, accomplished. And ruled long too. Is the curse finally broken?
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Is the curse broken? No, no it is not. And our student has actually read some relevant outside reading material? I’m speechless!
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No. It is definitely not. And yes! She has! I am as surprised as you.
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We cannot say if the curse is broken because Dmitry isn't actually a Rurikid in any way that matters. Apart from all the cultural and biological reasons, he had a long reign and was mostly competent, that alone rules him out.
I think this explains why his wife is looking so utterly disgusted with him in the portrait at the top. The more I find out about this Pinsk Dynasty the less I like them.
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Thanks for the update, but I'm with @El Pip on this one...
The Pinsk are the pretenders. Bring back the Rurikids and Ásatrú too by the way.
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Dying at sixty-one with forty plus years on top. The Pin(s)ks are cut from a different bolt of cloth than the Rurikids. Will the dawn bring us some nephew-aunt alliances? I agree with @Chac1, restore the old gods and the Norse culture. Thank you to the note-taker for sharing.
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Rurikid through mother's blood? Okay, well perhaps in the future...
Yeah, well. They are degenerates. More on that later.
Wouldn't have it any other way.
Åsatru is almost gone from the map now, but I do get events once every reign or so to convert to Christianity due to stress. I think it would be unwise, though.
Old gods and Norse culture is not going to happen, I think. But I haven't played to 1453 yet.....
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A good ruler, other than the wars with Hungary. He tried once, failed, and then tried again for the entire kingdom. Tsar Dmitriy definitely had ambition.
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And he is one of the few rulers who had the opportunity to imprison rebels without risk losing other wars, which means he got a much more stable reign.
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The new ruler has commissioned a saga to justify his dynasty's rule. Did it work?
Did you revoke the titles of any of those rebellious vassals that Dmitriy imprisoned?
Did you revoke the titles of any of those rebellious vassals that Dmitriy imprisoned?
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And the empire changes hands once again... Ignoring his illusion of grandeur in the failed wars for Hungary, he seemed to be a strong and stable leader.
But will the next one be able to keep everything together? Or will everything fragment?
But will the next one be able to keep everything together? Or will everything fragment?
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It worked...for his reign at least.
I did, to make sure I had more domain, mainly. But also to remove some extra powerful vassals and divide their lands a little.
He was a good ruler in most regards, yes. But his son? We will have to see, won't we?
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If that's a small jihad, I'd shudder to think what a large one would be for.
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Congratulations, you’re trapped now. One of us, one of us, one of us…
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