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Bullshit.
Alright, I'm on Warwick's side now. This is getting ridiculous. Storm the castle, and the Chapel if needs be, and drag that sorry ass King out in front of everyone and have him finally make one sodding decision for his Crown, or have him removed from it.
At this point, civil war is preferable to leaving this court and that woman in charge.
Easier said than done, but I am certain there is wide spread agreement with this sentiment. I'm frankly a little surprised that Buckingham is going along with all of this, and I wrote it.
Fact is, no matter how pernicious is the Queen, Warwick (and York before him) are making it very hard to give support to their cause. And yes...where exactly is he King?
Warwick is acting too rashly. He's right, of course, but even so...
Why hasn't the king attempted to reign Margaret in at all, though? One would think that he would want to prevent outright targeting of Yorkists at the very least... unless he is praying as England burns.
I'm having to tread a very fine line with King Henry at this point. When I read this history the first time, I definitely had the same thought. He wasn't ill (at least not how he was some years back) but clearly became even more passive than he had been prior to this date. What could cause it? I suppose it is a combination of things as nothing is ever so simple as one true cause. They could be 1.) After effects of his illness, 2.) His general piety taking more and more of his thoughts, 3.) A sense of defeatism after St. Albans and/or 4.) Manipulation by the Queen and Council. As I am writing it, he is more to the background than ever and really King in name only. Yes he
should act on his prerogative and actually rule, but I believe that by this point he did not really want to. It is unforgivable in retrospect despite the lofty idea of his spiritual pursuits because it is this passivity that allows what happens next.
Also..."praying as England burns" is quite good. Well done, sir!
It is said that a rising tide raises all ships, but Warwick is only concerned with the HMS Neville. With his piracy/smuggling, Warwick is best served by a weak central government, no matter who is at the helm. He also fears being shoved to the side by a school of smaller fish, as he has seen happen to York.
This is a very interesting thought. You are right that a weak Crown/Council allows him to run free. I'd think his motivation is and will remain power. Not just to use the weak Council for his own means but to control it from the top.
@El Pip, opposing Queen Cecily Lannister does not make one a fan of the Dornish Queen Fancy. (Though a warm tarte aux myrtilles with some cool whipped English cream does sound appetizing.) One is simply trying to prevent Cecily's brood of inbred twelve-toed hunchbacks from penetrating every crevice of proper society before Henry Targaryen can land his dragon at the King's Court.
I'd be careful using ASOIF analogies even if those characters were largely based on these. None of them are one to one comparisons. Further, I'd be especially careful assuming that these characters (specifically York and Cecily's brood) will come out exactly like their real life counterparts. It is true that I am holding fairly close with the older ones, but in this story anything can change (as can hopefully be seen with my characterization of Edward/Ned as an example.)
Margaret's mirror is no longer hesitating when she asks who is the fairest in the land. Margaret is an aging lady who in CK3 terms is neutral on the beauty scale while Fancy is at least pretty. Margaret worries that Richard will start sampling fresh tarts instead of week-old bread. (Whether maybe not Fancy specifically, Fancy represents Margaret's greatest fear.
So you are admitting that Margaret is an "evil Queen" ?
This would be solved if York served the Queen et al a Black Dinner.
Yes, but who to cater it?
Knowing that you know much of this history, patience my friend. It is coming, but slowly. Always slowly.
To all - To follow on from the above, the recent scene is (to me) somewhat of an inciting incident to what will come later. True we saw the near fight at Blackheath and then the eventual "battle" at St. Albans (I qualify this because it was so brief and really didn't accomplish anything in the long run) but this is the start of true hostilities with arms. Warwick has been pressing this in a manner that York was unwilling and one can either blame him or cheer him on depending on your views. There is reason that I focused this chapter on him because I do think that he brought this matter to a head. Has he made mistakes? Yes. Did he mean to force military means to a governmental/political issue? I think also yes. As much as he may be "hurt" by the above, I believe this is precisely what he desired. It is said "shit or get off the pot" and I believe that Warwick is over the waiting that York and his father Salisbury were content with even as they complained about it.
The next scene will come Thursday and get us near to the end of chapter 12. And just yesterday, I finished writing chapter 14 with the next three chapters already plotted out. As a bit of warning and/or spoiler, this cold war (such that it has been) is about to get hot. So get ready!
As always, thank you all for the excellent comments and your reading and support throughout. We are nearing the two year mark on working on this story (which I know is chump change compared to
@El Pip and his "slower than real time" practice) and your efforts reward mine every single time.
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