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I don't see Mecca here. Ahmad is right there though.
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Ahmad Rumaytha is not the ruler of Mecca.

This guy is: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rumaythah_ibn_Abi_Numayy

Ahmad is the son of Humayda, brother of Rumaytha, the Sharif of Mecca. And Humayda died in 1320.
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You are the guy/one of the guys who made this map, have you noticed that Al'Ali and Al Fadl have less location in the review than your map?
Did you made a mistake there or did the devs forget?
 
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Also, assuming A. M. on the map is Al Murrah, they should not exist in 1337.
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Can probably just give that territory over to the Jarwanids.

As for dynasties, you can probably make the dynasty of Al Zafir "Al Zafir", since you did the same for Al Fadl/etc.
 
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You are the guy/one of the guys who made this map, have you noticed that Al'Ali and Al Fadl have less location in the review than your map?
Did you made a mistake there or did the devs forget?
Devs aren't relying only on what we give 'em. They do their own research as well, so if they make changes it usually means that they found some source or another that contradicted whatever we suggested.
 
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You are the guy/one of the guys who made this map, have you noticed that Al'Ali and Al Fadl have less location in the review than your map?



Yeah, but I wouldn't worry about it. Going through 40+ pages of constantly changing feedback is bound to cause a couple mistakes, and the devs have their own input. I've changed the map over ten times by now, and I doubt that has helped. The feedback threads are a good way to get those sorted out.

Thankfully the community map for Persia is in its final form now, unless someone posts something groundbreaking.


 
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Yeah, but I wouldn't worry about it. Going through 40+ pages of constantly changing feedback is bound to cause a couple mistakes, and the devs have their own input. I've changed the map over ten times by now, and I doubt that has helped. The feedback threads are a good way to get those sorted out.

Thankfully the community map for Persia is in its final form now, unless someone posts something groundbreaking.


Aren't you going to ask them why though? What sources they used I mean, considering you probably spent a lot of time making it aren't you curious where they got the info that say otherwise?
 
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Aren't you going to ask them why though? What sources they used I mean, considering you probably spent a lot of time making it, aren't you curious where they got the info that say otherwise?



I don't know much at all about the situation in Arabia, so you should consult @Ispil on that. I just draw/combined the maps to make it easier to see the whole picture.

But when the Persia feedback is out, I'll be doing my own little nitpicking.


 
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Aren't you going to ask them why though? What sources they used I mean, considering you probably spent a lot of time making it aren't you curious where they got the info that say otherwise?
Hillah ruling further south than what I suggested, I did find in other sources. As for Al A'idh, it's not unreasonable that they controlled more of what was nominally Al Fadl territory than what I suggested given that Al Fadl controlling that far south in my sources isn't well-dated and might've been more of a seasonal migration maximum extent.
 
It is still sad that Jeddah is still not a Natural Harbor.
Just added a natural harbor there.
I think this was correct as it was, actually. Based on the research done in the original Arabia Maps thread, Jeddah should really be either not a natural harbor or a pretty low-tier one. It’s status as a busy port was for reasons other than its natural suitability.

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Jiddah, for example, flourished from its location halfway up or down the Red Sea and from providing access to the Holy City of Makkah. ... Yet neither of these cities had favorable geographical characteristics. ... In 1183 CE..., a pilgrim wrote of the entry to Jiddah: "The entry into it is difficult to achieve because of the many reefs and the windings. We observed the art of these captains and the mariners in the handling of their ships through the reefs. It was truly marvelous. They would enter the narrow channels and manage their way through them as a cavalier manages a horse that is light on the bridle and tractable. They came through in a wonderful manner that can not be described ... ." (Ports of Oman pg. 18-19)
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The harbor was only suitable for dhows and lighters, which typically have a draft of 1 to 2 meters. Larger ships with a draft of more than 2 meters were unable to dock directly at the quays due to the limited water depth near the shore. Large sailing ships (e.g., frigates, galleons, ships of the line), with drafts of 4.5 to 7 meters, could still make use of the harbor by anchoring offshore—several hundred yards from the coast—and transferring their cargo onto smaller boats like dhows and lighters. However, this process of unloading cargo offshore and ferrying it to the harbor would have been inefficient and time-consuming, particularly for larger ships involved in extensive trade.
In summary, Jeddah was a suitable harbor for smaller vessels and offshore cargo transfers from larger ships, but its shallow depth and offshore anchoring requirements made it inefficient for large ships and extensive trade.
 
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New markets map mode colors look great, but it is jarring with the brown wastelands. Maybe make the wastelands a darker color so that they don't jump out as much.
 
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I do understand why no locations were added, but Khasab probably should be due to its strategic importance and natural harbor suitability. Otherwise maybe Duqm would also be good to add to shrink the physical length the corridor takes up and provide another fish RGO to Oman.
 
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