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Tinto Maps #10 - 12th of July 2024 - Syrian Levant & Egypt

Hello everyone, and welcome to another Tinto Maps! We’re back after celebrating the most important victories over Germany and France since the 30 Years War a hard week of work, and we’re ready to share with you the region of the Syrian Levant & Egypt (actually, we’re revealing a bit more of what those regions would be, to cover the complete extension of the Mamlūk Sultanate). Let’s go!

Countries:
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The Mamlūk Sultanate is the main power of the region, a situation achieved after the defeat of the Mongols at the Battles of Ain Jalut and Marj al-Saffar, and the fall of Acre, the last stronghold of the Crusader states in Outremer. The latter's legacy is still handled by the Kingdom of Cyprus, ruled by Hugues IV of Lusignan. Apart from that, we can see the realm of Candia, a subject governed by the Serene Republic of Venice, and some Arabic tribes, such as the Hutaym and the Anizah. Oh, and also, to the south-west, you might have noticed some oases ruled by either the Mamluks, or Fezzan; I opted for not coloring the wastelands, as usual, but also the corridors, a type of terrain present in other GSGs, that we have in Project Caesar. I’ll talk more about them under the ‘Locations’ section of the DD, but I just want to note one more thing: the connection down the Nile is a regular one, with a border existing between the Mamluks and Makuria (the country that controls the small chunk of land at the very south of the image).

Dynasties:
Dynasties.png

The Bahri Mamluks have ruled the Sultanate since they deposed the Ayyubids, almost a century before the start of the game. It could maybe be a bit more accurate to depict Sultan al-Nasir Muhammad as an ibn Qalawun (‘of the lineage of Qalawun’), but the dynastical dynamics of the Mamluk rulers are not so easy to portray, so we opted for the moment to better use Bahriyya. Apart from that, you may also see the neighboring dynasties, such as the already-mentioned House of Lusignan, or the Hethumian of Cilicia.

Locations:
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Here you can see the locations of the entire region, and also closer chunks behind the ‘Spoiler’ button. The most interesting feature to talk about is that of the corridors, something that some of you might remember from ‘Imperator: Rome’, but also something new to the rest. The corridors are empty locations, with no population or resources, but that allows connection between the locations at their sides, for some mechanics that we’ve already mentioned (market access, control), and some others that we haven’t (army movement). This is the way that we’ve chosen to portray the Saharan corridors, that allow for a connection between the Maghreb and the Mashreq, and Western and Central Africa. There are also some regular locations over those corridors, with population, resources, etc., that can be controlled by countries, which portray the desert oases that made for important outposts in the different Saharan routes. Not all the connections are throughout corridors, though; outside of the image, the Nile River valley allows for regular locations all the way down from Egypt to Nubia, the last location held by the Mamluks being that of Aswan, while the first held by Makuria, not shown in the screenshot, being Qasr Ibrim. We will talk more about Nubia and Ethiopia in a future Tinto Maps.

Provinces:
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Usual provinces mapmode; please let us know of any spelling or naming suggestions that come to your mind.

Areas:
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A new mapmode that has been requested in previous Tinto Maps, and that we’re now incorporating.

Terrain:
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The climate is dominated by a mix of Mediterranean, Arid, and Cold Arid. The topography of the region is quite flat, with some hills and mountains on Mount Lebanon and Anti-Lebanon, Mount Sinai, and the verge of the Arabian plateau; and some marshland over the Nile Delta, of course. Regarding the vegetation, desert and sparse vegetation dominate most of the region, with some woods and forests over Levant, and the Nile fertile farmlands, the bread basket of the Eastern Mediterranean.

Cultures:
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Here starts the fun… Those countries ruling over the Middle East will face the challenge of managing several different cultural minorities. Libyan, Egyptian, Sa'idi, Bedouin, Ḥijāzī, Najidi (the green one to their right), Levantine, and Iraqi (the light blue at the top right of the picture) are all different regional cultures of Arabic-speaking people. Something interesting is that most of Bedouin pops are tribesmen, instead of peasants, portraying their traditional social organization. Coming to important minority groups, Coptic people are quite important in Egypt, accounting for about 10% of the population of the Mamlūk Sultanate. The other important minority are the Syriacs, as they also account for another 10% of the population, and are a cultural majority in a few locations. Apart from those, there are also Armenians, Kurds, and Turkomans on the divide between Anatolia, Syria, and Jazira, Alawites Shiites in Syria, Mizrahi Jews all over the region, Samaritans in Palestine, and Greeks in Crete, Cyprus, and some in Alexandria. Oh, also the Saharan cultures of the Eastern Berbers and the Toubou over some of the Saharan oases.

Religions:
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More fun. In this region, we have:
  • Sunni Muslims
  • Miaphysite Christians
  • Orthodox Christians
  • Shia Muslims
  • Catholic Christians
  • Druzes
  • Jews
  • Nestorian Christians (the ‘label’ we’re using to depict the Church of the East)
  • Samaritans
  • Yazidi

Relating these religions to the previous cultures, we can tell you most of the Arabic-speaking cultures are Sunni Muslims, with some Shia Muslims in Syria and Lebanon. Most of the Coptic are Miaphysite, adhering to the Patriarchate of Alexandria, although some of there still follow the Orthodoxy of Constantinople. The Syriacs are also religiously divided, with some being Nestorians (the current name we have to cover the confessions related to the Church of the East), some Miaphysites, some Orthodox, and even some Catholics in Lebanon. And then we have some cultural-religious minorities, such as the Alawite Shiites, the Druzes (which are of Levantine culture), the Mizrahi Jews, the Samaritans, and the Yazidi (which are of Kurd culture).


Raw Materials:
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There are some materials that are more unique to this region, such as the Dates in the arid fringes. The Nile Valley and Delta are incredibly fertile, having plenty of different crops: Wheat, Rice, Legumes, Sugar, Cotton, Fiber Crops (=Linen), etc. Livestock, Wool, and Horses are also important resources for the people across the region. There are also some metals present in the region, such as Copper in Cyprus and around the Red Sea, Iron, Tin, some Lead, and some interesting sources of Alum.

Markets:
Markets.png

The main market centers of the region are Alexandria (yeah, it’s there! I’ve already reported its weird name-wrapping and one of our programmers is going to take a look at it) for the Mashreq, Damascus for the Syrian Levant and Mecca for the Hejaz.

Country and Location Population:
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The population of the region points to Egypt being its powerhouse, with several million people being supported being the Nile Valley and Delta. Apart from that, the Syrian Levant has a very decent population, making the Mamlūk Sultanate a dreadful rival to have in 1337. The arid fringes make for a way more difficult food production and population sustainability, making them more of strategic value, by their position, resources, etc.

And that’s all for today! Next week @Johan will show you Scandinavia, the very first map that was crafted for Project Caesar! Cheers!
 
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"According to the historians Abu'l-Hasan Bayhaqi and Ibn Sa'id al-Maghribi, the Anizah tribe settled in the Hijaz region, specifically in Khaybar, at the end of the 10th century AD.[1][2] Ali bin al Mugrab Al Uyuni mentioned the news of the Anizah tribe fighting rulers of Khaybar, al Jaafar al-Tayyar and expelled them from it.[3]"
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"The modern tribe of Anizah became prominent in the Ottoman era, as masters of the oasis towns of northwestern Arabia, particularly Khaybar and Al-'Ula. […] According to Encyclopedia of Islam, "it is not known whence they came", while many such as the Western travelers Philby and Anne Blunt simply assumed they had recently migrated from Nejd, having been pushed northwards into Syria by other tribes."
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"The Harb tribe dates to the 2nd century of the Islamic calendar. When Qahtani tribes emigrated from the south of Arabian Peninsula to Hejaz around 131 AH for water and land space after some battles with their cousins Banu Ar-Rabi'ah bin Saad. This caused several tribal conflicts with the native and mostly Adnani Arab tribes of Hejaz and Tihamah such as Juhaynah, Anazzah, Muzaynah, and Sulaym over land and water. After around three centuries in Hejaz, the Harb tribe became a dominant tribe in the heart of Hejaz with territories surrounding the holy city of Medina."

Sourced that Wikipedia links in the Anizah section (it doesn't link to the Encyclopedia of Islam article and I am too lazy to look it up so no idea how legit it is):
1. Abu'l-Hasan Bayhaqi, alkamayim
2. Ibn Sa'id al-Maghribi, The rapture in the history of the pre-Islamic Arabs
3. Diwan ibn al Mugrab

Apparently the Anizah of Syria (the one shown in the map you posted from the 20th century) seem to have migrated there or emerged at a later point; meanwhile the Harb tribe's wikipedia page quite literally says they are near Medina, although it does not cite a source for that section in particular so I'd be cautious about it.
I do not know much about Anza in the settlement of Khaybar, but the Harb tribe came after the migration of the major tribes after the Islamic conquest. They then settled directly in the city and allied themselves with Muzainah, and the alliance for the Arabs is a complete merger, so that the two tribes became one and from there they began to expand, and we should not forget to mention their rule of the city of Qunfudhah, north of Jizan, and at the end of the map there is It has many historical shortcomings and I would like to correct them more or less
 
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ما هي الفترة الزمنية لهذه الخريطة؟ تبدو مفصلة للغاية، ولكن ما هي الحقبة الزمنية التي تمثلها؟
لا، ولكن لم يحدث الكثير في القبائل خلال هذه الفترة، خاصة وأن شبه الجزيرة العربية أصبحت شبه خالية بعد الهجرة العربية وتحالف القبائل مع بعضها البعض لتصبح كياناً واحداً قوياً مثل عتيبة ومطير، ولهذا تجد أسماء لا تشبه الأسماء في زمن صدر الإسلام.
 
Hello everyone, and welcome to another Tinto Maps! We’re back after celebrating the most important victories over Germany and France since the 30 Years War a hard week of work, and we’re ready to share with you the region of the Syrian Levant & Egypt (actually, we’re revealing a bit more of what those regions would be, to cover the complete extension of the Mamlūk Sultanate). Let’s go!

Countries:
View attachment 1161740
The Mamlūk Sultanate is the main power of the region, a situation achieved after the defeat of the Mongols at the Battles of Ain Jalut and Marj al-Saffar, and the fall of Acre, the last stronghold of the Crusader states in Outremer. The latter's legacy is still handled by the Kingdom of Cyprus, ruled by Hugues IV of Lusignan. Apart from that, we can see the realm of Candia, a subject governed by the Serene Republic of Venice, and some Arabic tribes, such as the Hutaym and the Anizah. Oh, and also, to the south-west, you might have noticed some oases ruled by either the Mamluks, or Fezzan; I opted for not coloring the wastelands, as usual, but also the corridors, a type of terrain present in other GSGs, that we have in Project Caesar. I’ll talk more about them under the ‘Locations’ section of the DD, but I just want to note one more thing: the connection down the Nile is a regular one, with a border existing between the Mamluks and Makuria (the country that controls the small chunk of land at the very south of the image).

Dynasties:
View attachment 1161741
The Bahri Mamluks have ruled the Sultanate since they deposed the Ayyubids, almost a century before the start of the game. It could maybe be a bit more accurate to depict Sultan al-Nasir Muhammad as an ibn Qalawun (‘of the lineage of Qalawun’), but the dynastical dynamics of the Mamluk rulers are not so easy to portray, so we opted for the moment to better use Bahriyya. Apart from that, you may also see the neighboring dynasties, such as the already-mentioned House of Lusignan, or the Hethumian of Cilicia.

Locations:
View attachment 1161743
Here you can see the locations of the entire region, and also closer chunks behind the ‘Spoiler’ button. The most interesting feature to talk about is that of the corridors, something that some of you might remember from ‘Imperator: Rome’, but also something new to the rest. The corridors are empty locations, with no population or resources, but that allows connection between the locations at their sides, for some mechanics that we’ve already mentioned (market access, control), and some others that we haven’t (army movement). This is the way that we’ve chosen to portray the Saharan corridors, that allow for a connection between the Maghreb and the Mashreq, and Western and Central Africa. There are also some regular locations over those corridors, with population, resources, etc., that can be controlled by countries, which portray the desert oases that made for important outposts in the different Saharan routes. Not all the connections are throughout corridors, though; outside of the image, the Nile River valley allows for regular locations all the way down from Egypt to Nubia, the last location held by the Mamluks being that of Aswan, while the first held by Makuria, not shown in the screenshot, being Qasr Ibrim. We will talk more about Nubia and Ethiopia in a future Tinto Maps.

Provinces:
View attachment 1161747
Usual provinces mapmode; please let us know of any spelling or naming suggestions that come to your mind.

Areas:
View attachment 1161749
A new mapmode that has been requested in previous Tinto Maps, and that we’re now incorporating.

Terrain:
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The climate is dominated by a mix of Mediterranean, Arid, and Cold Arid. The topography of the region is quite flat, with some hills and mountains on Mount Lebanon and Anti-Lebanon, Mount Sinai, and the verge of the Arabian plateau; and some marshland over the Nile Delta, of course. Regarding the vegetation, desert and sparse vegetation dominate most of the region, with some woods and forests over Levant, and the Nile fertile farmlands, the bread basket of the Eastern Mediterranean.

Cultures:
View attachment 1161753
Here starts the fun… Those countries ruling over the Middle East will face the challenge of managing several different cultural minorities. Libyan, Egyptian, Sa'idi, Bedouin, Ḥijāzī, Najidi (the green one to their right), Levantine, and Iraqi (the light blue at the top right of the picture) are all different regional cultures of Arabic-speaking people. Something interesting is that most of Bedouin pops are tribesmen, instead of peasants, portraying their traditional social organization. Coming to important minority groups, Coptic people are quite important in Egypt, accounting for about 10% of the population of the Mamlūk Sultanate. The other important minority are the Syriacs, as they also account for another 10% of the population, and are a cultural majority in a few locations. Apart from those, there are also Armenians, Kurds, and Turkomans on the divide between Anatolia, Syria, and Jazira, Alawites Shiites in Syria, Mizrahi Jews all over the region, Samaritans in Palestine, and Greeks in Crete, Cyprus, and some in Alexandria. Oh, also the Saharan cultures of the Eastern Berbers and the Toubou over some of the Saharan oases.

Religions:
View attachment 1161754
More fun. In this region, we have:
  • Sunni Muslims
  • Miaphysite Christians
  • Orthodox Christians
  • Shia Muslims
  • Catholic Christians
  • Druzes
  • Jews
  • Nestorian Christians (the ‘label’ we’re using to depict the Church of the East)
  • Samaritans
  • Yazidi

Relating these religions to the previous cultures, we can tell you most of the Arabic-speaking cultures are Sunni Muslims, with some Shia Muslims in Syria and Lebanon. Most of the Coptic are Miaphysite, adhering to the Patriarchate of Alexandria, although some of there still follow the Orthodoxy of Constantinople. The Syriacs are also religiously divided, with some being Nestorians (the current name we have to cover the confessions related to the Church of the East), some Miaphysites, some Orthodox, and even some Catholics in Lebanon. And then we have some cultural-religious minorities, such as the Alawite Shiites, the Druzes (which are of Levantine culture), the Mizrahi Jews, the Samaritans, and the Yazidi (which are of Kurd culture).

Raw Materials:
View attachment 1161755
There are some materials that are more unique to this region, such as the Dates in the arid fringes. The Nile Valley and Delta are incredibly fertile, having plenty of different crops: Wheat, Rice, Legumes, Sugar, Cotton, Fiber Crops (=Linen), etc. Livestock, Wool, and Horses are also important resources for the people across the region. There are also some metals present in the region, such as Copper in Cyprus and around the Red Sea, Iron, Tin, some Lead, and some interesting sources of Alum.

Markets:
View attachment 1161756
The main market centers of the region are Alexandria (yeah, it’s there! I’ve already reported its weird name-wrapping and one of our programmers is going to take a look at it) for the Mashreq, Damascus for the Syrian Levant and Mecca for the Hejaz.

Country and Location Population:
View attachment 1161757
The population of the region points to Egypt being its powerhouse, with several million people being supported being the Nile Valley and Delta. Apart from that, the Syrian Levant has a very decent population, making the Mamlūk Sultanate a dreadful rival to have in 1337. The arid fringes make for a way more difficult food production and population sustainability, making them more of strategic value, by their position, resources, etc.

And that’s all for today! Next week @Johan will show you Scandinavia, the very first map that was crafted for Project Caesar! Cheers!
The terrain in Palestine is quite off. For one, Samaria and Galilee are hardly flatlands. Not area in Palestine is really flat besides the coastal plain and Jezreel valley. Secondly, the climate around the dead sea coast is incredibly arid, as is most of the Jordan rift Valley. To have Gaza as Arid but the dead sea as Mediterranean is off. Additionally, the fertile area in Jordan extends to the south in a thin strip around Amman.
 
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I've taken advantage of Gouda_boy's GREAT work as he suggested a bunch of locations in the Levant, and I've added a couple more.

Unfortunately I'll be quite busy next two days so I won't have time to complement the map with a good tome before deadline, in order to justify these potential additions to the map.
In fact, to be honest, some of them are hardly justifiable xD.
I took the license to include some emblematic, historical places in this region although they were not entirely relevant around 1337. However, I think it would be fine to increase the density in the Levant a little. Thank you so much for your attention!
 

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I've taken advantage of Gouda_boy's GREAT work as he suggested a bunch of locations in the Levant, and I've added a couple more.

Unfortunately I won't have time to complement the map with a good tome to justify these potential additions to the map.
In fact, to be honest, some of them are hardly justifiable xD.
I took the license to include some emblematic, historical places in this region although they were not entirely relevant around 1337. However, I think it would be fine to increase the density in the Levant a little. Thank you so much for your attention!
id make Jericho take Jerusalem's coast to the dead sea for climate continuation and maybe cut Nablus to make a jordan rift location and name it Bet Shean
 
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I feel like it would be more appropriate to rename "Miaphysitism" into "Oriental Orthodoxy"
I've always found this name very confusing because for non-english speakers Eastern and Oriental are sinonyms. Indeed if I have to translate them in my language it's the same word.

Also, the problem with a Maronite Patriarcate IO is that, if I understood correctly, such IOs must have nations to be part of them in order to exist. Indeed, if you remember the religion TT there was no Greek-Orthodox Patriarcate for Alexandria, but only the Coptic One (with Ethiopia being the only country in it). It is correct @Johan ?
 
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I've taken advantage of Gouda_boy's GREAT work as he suggested a bunch of locations in the Levant, and I've added a couple more.

Unfortunately I'll be quite busy next two days so I won't have time to complement the map with a good tome before deadline, in order to justify these potential additions to the map.
In fact, to be honest, some of them are hardly justifiable xD.
I took the license to include some emblematic, historical places in this region although they were not entirely relevant around 1337. However, I think it would be fine to increase the density in the Levant a little. Thank you so much for your attention!
Caesarea at this time was basically non-existant as previously stated, I recommend either move it north and renaming it to "Haifa", or splitting it between Acre and Jaffa to instead make room for a "Ramla" province, which iirc was still Palestine's regional center at the time; or maybe both.
The inclusion of Avdat puzzles me, not only does it look like it's in the wrong place, afaik, the city is uninhabited even today.
 
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Hello everyone, and welcome to another Tinto Maps! We’re back after celebrating the most important victories over Germany and France since the 30 Years War a hard week of work, and we’re ready to share with you the region of the Syrian Levant & Egypt (actually, we’re revealing a bit more of what those regions would be, to cover the complete extension of the Mamlūk Sultanate). Let’s go!

Countries:
View attachment 1161740
The Mamlūk Sultanate is the main power of the region, a situation achieved after the defeat of the Mongols at the Battles of Ain Jalut and Marj al-Saffar, and the fall of Acre, the last stronghold of the Crusader states in Outremer. The latter's legacy is still handled by the Kingdom of Cyprus, ruled by Hugues IV of Lusignan. Apart from that, we can see the realm of Candia, a subject governed by the Serene Republic of Venice, and some Arabic tribes, such as the Hutaym and the Anizah. Oh, and also, to the south-west, you might have noticed some oases ruled by either the Mamluks, or Fezzan; I opted for not coloring the wastelands, as usual, but also the corridors, a type of terrain present in other GSGs, that we have in Project Caesar. I’ll talk more about them under the ‘Locations’ section of the DD, but I just want to note one more thing: the connection down the Nile is a regular one, with a border existing between the Mamluks and Makuria (the country that controls the small chunk of land at the very south of the image).

Dynasties:
View attachment 1161741
The Bahri Mamluks have ruled the Sultanate since they deposed the Ayyubids, almost a century before the start of the game. It could maybe be a bit more accurate to depict Sultan al-Nasir Muhammad as an ibn Qalawun (‘of the lineage of Qalawun’), but the dynastical dynamics of the Mamluk rulers are not so easy to portray, so we opted for the moment to better use Bahriyya. Apart from that, you may also see the neighboring dynasties, such as the already-mentioned House of Lusignan, or the Hethumian of Cilicia.

Locations:
View attachment 1161743
Here you can see the locations of the entire region, and also closer chunks behind the ‘Spoiler’ button. The most interesting feature to talk about is that of the corridors, something that some of you might remember from ‘Imperator: Rome’, but also something new to the rest. The corridors are empty locations, with no population or resources, but that allows connection between the locations at their sides, for some mechanics that we’ve already mentioned (market access, control), and some others that we haven’t (army movement). This is the way that we’ve chosen to portray the Saharan corridors, that allow for a connection between the Maghreb and the Mashreq, and Western and Central Africa. There are also some regular locations over those corridors, with population, resources, etc., that can be controlled by countries, which portray the desert oases that made for important outposts in the different Saharan routes. Not all the connections are throughout corridors, though; outside of the image, the Nile River valley allows for regular locations all the way down from Egypt to Nubia, the last location held by the Mamluks being that of Aswan, while the first held by Makuria, not shown in the screenshot, being Qasr Ibrim. We will talk more about Nubia and Ethiopia in a future Tinto Maps.

Provinces:
View attachment 1161747
Usual provinces mapmode; please let us know of any spelling or naming suggestions that come to your mind.

Areas:
View attachment 1161749
A new mapmode that has been requested in previous Tinto Maps, and that we’re now incorporating.

Terrain:
View attachment 1161750
View attachment 1161751
View attachment 1161752
The climate is dominated by a mix of Mediterranean, Arid, and Cold Arid. The topography of the region is quite flat, with some hills and mountains on Mount Lebanon and Anti-Lebanon, Mount Sinai, and the verge of the Arabian plateau; and some marshland over the Nile Delta, of course. Regarding the vegetation, desert and sparse vegetation dominate most of the region, with some woods and forests over Levant, and the Nile fertile farmlands, the bread basket of the Eastern Mediterranean.

Cultures:
View attachment 1161753
Here starts the fun… Those countries ruling over the Middle East will face the challenge of managing several different cultural minorities. Libyan, Egyptian, Sa'idi, Bedouin, Ḥijāzī, Najidi (the green one to their right), Levantine, and Iraqi (the light blue at the top right of the picture) are all different regional cultures of Arabic-speaking people. Something interesting is that most of Bedouin pops are tribesmen, instead of peasants, portraying their traditional social organization. Coming to important minority groups, Coptic people are quite important in Egypt, accounting for about 10% of the population of the Mamlūk Sultanate. The other important minority are the Syriacs, as they also account for another 10% of the population, and are a cultural majority in a few locations. Apart from those, there are also Armenians, Kurds, and Turkomans on the divide between Anatolia, Syria, and Jazira, Alawites Shiites in Syria, Mizrahi Jews all over the region, Samaritans in Palestine, and Greeks in Crete, Cyprus, and some in Alexandria. Oh, also the Saharan cultures of the Eastern Berbers and the Toubou over some of the Saharan oases.

Religions:
View attachment 1161754
More fun. In this region, we have:
  • Sunni Muslims
  • Miaphysite Christians
  • Orthodox Christians
  • Shia Muslims
  • Catholic Christians
  • Druzes
  • Jews
  • Nestorian Christians (the ‘label’ we’re using to depict the Church of the East)
  • Samaritans
  • Yazidi

Relating these religions to the previous cultures, we can tell you most of the Arabic-speaking cultures are Sunni Muslims, with some Shia Muslims in Syria and Lebanon. Most of the Coptic are Miaphysite, adhering to the Patriarchate of Alexandria, although some of there still follow the Orthodoxy of Constantinople. The Syriacs are also religiously divided, with some being Nestorians (the current name we have to cover the confessions related to the Church of the East), some Miaphysites, some Orthodox, and even some Catholics in Lebanon. And then we have some cultural-religious minorities, such as the Alawite Shiites, the Druzes (which are of Levantine culture), the Mizrahi Jews, the Samaritans, and the Yazidi (which are of Kurd culture).

Raw Materials:
View attachment 1161755
There are some materials that are more unique to this region, such as the Dates in the arid fringes. The Nile Valley and Delta are incredibly fertile, having plenty of different crops: Wheat, Rice, Legumes, Sugar, Cotton, Fiber Crops (=Linen), etc. Livestock, Wool, and Horses are also important resources for the people across the region. There are also some metals present in the region, such as Copper in Cyprus and around the Red Sea, Iron, Tin, some Lead, and some interesting sources of Alum.

Markets:
View attachment 1161756
The main market centers of the region are Alexandria (yeah, it’s there! I’ve already reported its weird name-wrapping and one of our programmers is going to take a look at it) for the Mashreq, Damascus for the Syrian Levant and Mecca for the Hejaz.

Country and Location Population:
View attachment 1161757
The population of the region points to Egypt being its powerhouse, with several million people being supported being the Nile Valley and Delta. Apart from that, the Syrian Levant has a very decent population, making the Mamlūk Sultanate a dreadful rival to have in 1337. The arid fringes make for a way more difficult food production and population sustainability, making them more of strategic value, by their position, resources, etc.

And that’s all for today! Next week @Johan will show you Scandinavia, the very first map that was crafted for Project Caesar! Cheers!
Here’s a question: will the Hajj affect Mecca’s population?

Also, will you require an advancement (camel-riding, for example) to be able to traverse the desert corridors/reach the oases? Please yes.
 
We need to do some more work and review the rivers before sharing them; we'll probably start posting stuff about them before the end of the summer.
I really hope this means they’re being made navigable :)
 
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The Almoravids and Saadi are a bit in disagreement with that. Also take into account that those routes are used for trading in our game, so we can portray Saharan trading routes being part of the economic system.
Can you make it so that tags need to have researched a camel-riding advancement to move units through them?
 
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@Pavía

Hebron, Jerusalem, Sidon, Damascus stick like a sore thumb among all the other regional names in the area.

In case you are not aware:

Hebron = Al-Khalil

Jerusalem = Al-Quds

Sidon = Sayda

Damascus = Dimashq

Acre is a weird translation of the name of the place, I wonder how it came to be. Anyhow, "Akka" is the transliteration of the name of the place.


Karak should be Al-Karak like in Arabic.
not to mention Alexandria (al-Iskandariyya, Eskenderiyya), Cairo (al-Qāhirah), Beersheba (Biʾr as-Sabʿ), Aleppo (Ḥalab), Damietta (Dumyāṭ), Suez (as-Suways). Lesser crimes include Tobruk (Ṭubruq, although I think the Libyans themselves would say it Ṭubrug), Gaza (Ghazzah), Barca (Barqa).
 
لا، ولكن لم يحدث الكثير في القبائل خلال هذه الفترة، خاصة وأن شبه الجزيرة العربية أصبحت شبه خالية بعد الهجرة العربية وتحالف القبائل مع بعضها البعض لتصبح كياناً واحداً قوياً مثل عتيبة ومطير، ولهذا تجد أسماء لا تشبه الأسماء في زمن صدر الإسلام.
ما هي الهجرة العربية التي أشارت إليها بالضبط؟ يعني هل تقصد هرجة العرب نحو البلاد المستعربة مثل مصر والمغرب العربي؟
 
As a Levantine person myself I noticed a few issues with the region's map that I will try to address to the best of my knowledge below:
  • Terrain: Pretty much the entire Levantine coast consists of hills/mountains.
    • Starting from the north, the Syrian Alawite mountains run across the entire coast of modern-day Syria. I believe that area should have mountainous terrain.
    • In modern-day Lebanon, there are two mountain ranges running almost parallel to each other. Their highest portions are shown as impassable terrain, but the areas around them should also have mountainous terrain.
      • The western mountain range (Mount Lebanon) ends around the city of Nabatieh (in southern Lebanon today),
      • The eastern range (the Anti-Lebanon mountains) continue further south to the Palestinian border.
      • The land between the two ranges is the Bekaa valley, a flat plain with a width that varies along its extent.
    • To the south of the Mount Lebanon range lies the Galilee region, which extends until the city of Nazareth. This region consists of hilly terrain.
    • East of the Galilee (and south of the Anti-Lebanon mountains) lies the Hula plain, a small plain running along the Jordan river.
    • To the south of the Galilee lies Marj Ibn Amir, a small inland plain. To its west is the Carmel mountain, near modern Haifa.
    • I think the terrain further south is accurate. The same goes for the areas east of the Jordan river.
    • The naqab desert has rough terrain. I think the passable area of the desert should be hills or mountains.
  • Provinces:
    • Lebanon with its modern-day borders was not considered a distinct area of the Levant. The term was geographical and only referred to parts of Mount Lebanon.
    • I think Tripoli (Tarablus) should be part of the Latakia province, which would be called the Tarablus province in this case.
    • The northern border of Palestine is not historical and was a result of the French-British agreements in the early 1920's. I think the Palestine province should include areas such as Tyre, and possibly extend to the Litani river (in modern south Lebanon).
    • The rest of Lebanon should be part of the Damascus province.
  • Names: The current names are inconsistent, with some being based on the Standard Arabic names, some on local dialects, and some on Anglicized names. Here I'm proposing name changes assuming the usage of Standard Arabic for reference. I could also provide modern local pronunciation if needed.
    • Rename Al Hawran to simply Hawran.
    • Rename Libnan (if it still exists as its own province) to Lubnan.
    • Rename Sidon to Saida.
    • Rename Acre to Akka.
    • Rename Safed to Safad.
    • Rename Beersheba should be Beer Al Sabeh (not sure how to transliterate the name. The Arabic name is بئر السبع).
    • Rename Damascus to Dimashq
    • Rename Jerusalem to Al Quds.
    • Rename Hebron to Al Khalil.
    • Rename Latakia to Al Lathiqiyya.
    • Rename the Levant area to Bilad Al Sham.
    • Rename Baalbek to Baalbak /Baalabak.
  • Vegetation:
    • The Bekaa valley area (in modern times at least) is farmland.
If I find anything else I will edit this post or reply to it.
Thank you guys for your wonderful work. Can't wait to play the game when it releases!
 
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I think the Tinto team like to keep all the feedback for the maps under the Tinto map replies so it’s easier for them to gather all the feedback.
Indeed. Threads merged.
 
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Great, so I just have to repost to garner attention.
If you want attention, you should get banned.
If you want to "help the devs" or spread your knowledge or have some free time to research something which interests you, sharing it once in the appropriate thread is definitely the way to go.
 
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If you want attention, you should get banned.
If you want to "help the devs" or spread your knowledge or have some free time to research something which interests you, sharing it once in the appropriate thread is definitely the way to go.
I don't see devs reading older dev diaries feedback, do I?
 
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