Yeah, I noticed, and it would probably be better there. I believe Zaonezhye still needs another name though, as the name refers to the peninsula on the northwestern side of Onega. Though as apparently Zaonezhye means "beyond Onega" and because at some point the whole northern part of the Obonezhskaya pyatina was known as the Zaonezhskaya half, calling the eastern shore of Onega Zaonezhye might be appropriate after all. I probably shouldn't have said anything about the provinces around Onega on my post, as my main suggestions were adding the Lopskie Pogosty and giving the Kola provinces more interesting names.
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Putyvl is in Ukrainian transliteration, so it is right.
It is of the Severian culture with the Ukrainian dialect.
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I wonder if Visokoye is located somewhere around Kharkov and therefore Russian and Ukrainian transliterations of I/Y are inverted.
Culture in modern Central Russia should calling "Zalessian" ("Залесская"), not "Muskovite". Name "Muskovite" too related with Moscow and... nowadays insult.
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In Ukrainian it would be Vysoke, so Visokoye is wrongly transliterated Russian.
And I did not find Visokoye/Vysoke around Kharkiv, so probably it's somewhere in Russia.
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Hi! A quick update about something that I've just been working on this afternoon:
I've used 'Veliky Novgorod' as the name of the country for two reasons:
1. It allows for a clearer distinction with the two other Novgorods (Nizhny Novgorod and Novgorod-Seversky).
2. Our current naming system for countries doesn't support having both a suffix and a prefix (as it's not common), so this was the easiest workaround.
I've used 'Veliky Novgorod' as the name of the country for two reasons:
1. It allows for a clearer distinction with the two other Novgorods (Nizhny Novgorod and Novgorod-Seversky).
2. Our current naming system for countries doesn't support having both a suffix and a prefix (as it's not common), so this was the easiest workaround.
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"Muscovite" is the demonym for Moscow. Treating it as an insult is the same kind of nonsense as objecting against "gipsies".
But "Zalessian" has been suggested before, and it makes more sense than trying to choose a town to name it after. And it is similar to "Severian" in a sense that it refers to a region.
This looks nice as long as the tag isn't reduced to just a handful of locations.
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Much better now
Also, if you rename Novgorod-Seversky tag to the proper location name Novhorod-Siversky, the distinction will be even more clear
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And I've also just reminded that someone asked for the individual country colors in the region, this is now easy to visualize with the new game setting that @SaintDaveUK added, as one of the options is 'Subjects Use Overlord Color' -> 'No':
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If Russia is unified by Tver I simply do not want the culture to be called "Muscovite". So renaming it to "Zalessian" or perhaps "Russian" is a must.
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Can it be combined with this mapmode to see a kaleidoscopic mega Golden Horde?
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Zalessian is a great suggestion, not sure why I didn't think of that. Like Severian, works really well given it has a broad area association rather than any specific polity.
You could then have the ruling culture and dialect of any state which forms Russia be renamed Russian - so if Novgorod wins, Novgorodian is renamed Russian; if Moscow or Tver win, then Zalessian is renamed Russian, etc.
Think we could get everyone on board with that?
You could then have the ruling culture and dialect of any state which forms Russia be renamed Russian - so if Novgorod wins, Novgorodian is renamed Russian; if Moscow or Tver win, then Zalessian is renamed Russian, etc.
Think we could get everyone on board with that?
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Russian is the most common sense name, as we already have in the game English and not Londoners culture, French and not Parisian culture, Greek and not Constantinopolitan culture, as well as Turkish and not whatever their capital culture.
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"Sovereign Lord Republic" sounds clunky to me tbh, how about "Republic of (the) Sovereign Lord Velikiy Novgorod"?
Also while I'm looking at this, should Oreshek own a bit more land? The citation for this on wikipedia is a lithuanian book, does anyone have another source confirming this?
If this is correct, then Oreshek should look something like this:
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tbh, The original doesn't have "Republic of" in the name.
It's just Sovereign Lord Veliky Novgorod.
UPD: Oh, it's a common statement from at least two chronicles. Ladoga, Orekhov fort, Karela fort with Karelan countryside, and 1/2 of Kopor'ye.
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Yeah, I would prefer for its full name to be "Sovereign Lord Great Novgorod"
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